Beaver Town Meeting September 12, 2013

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Since: Sep 13

Beaver, OK

#1 Sep 13, 2013
Really enjoyed listening to friends take part in the political process, and certainly enjoyed meeting even more nice Beaverites.

A couple of thoughts on issues brought before the town board:

We really need new business in Beaver, and we should be very welcoming and helpful to these new businesses. There are regulations and ordinances that have to be followed though, and these should be researched before business start-up, so that there are no surprises. We need to honor our agreement with utility companies who have invested in this community.

Regarding the huge tree that needs to come down next to the city offices. It was stated by a board member that she didn’t believe they could find anyone to take the tree down because it was so huge and in a difficult place to take down safely, and they’d not been able to find anyone thus far. But when it was made known that a company had finally agreed to tackle such a project, the board then decided it would probably be expensive and they would take bids first.

Well… if you have finally found a company that will agree to do what it takes to bring this tree down safely, I would not look for a cheaper bid. But that’s just my opinion. Of course, if bids are required, then you cross the t's and dot the i's, but I'd spend the money it took to make this happen safely.

I do also think Reverend Don Griffin needs to re-read the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States, where it specifically states:

“… or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Yes, we elect officials to represent us, and we must have the right to address grievances when they make decisions that we do not believe best represent our community. If you take away that right, then you’ve established a dictatorship.

Also, if you want to do away with the first amendment, then you also remove the right of religious freedom, which is something he really needs to reconsider.

Instead of trying to destroy those who disagree with you, the better approach might be this…. Make a list of the pros, and make a list of the cons REGARDING THE ISSUE IN QUESTION ONLY.

Now here’s what I’ve long found interesting when it comes to elections. People do claim that they want something different, and then damned if they don’t elect the same mess again. We see this at every level.

That’s why I always have to chuckle when someone proclaims that if we don’t like what’s going on, we should get our own selves elected. That isn’t going to happen, because when someone does come along that is willing to tackle the difficult issues and try to turn things around, people get real skittish and start calling them radical, and they will end up voting the same old mess back into office.

So, really the only thing that can be done is to gather into groups of citizens, and tackle the issues one at a time, until things are made right. That’s the way it has always been done in this great country of ours. If we’d left it up to the elected officials only, women wouldn’t even have the right to vote, and blacks would still be slaves.

Have a good weekend.

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April Jamison

Beaver, OK

#2 Sep 13, 2013
MelStewart wrote:
Really enjoyed listening to friends take part in the political process, and certainly enjoyed meeting even more nice Beaverites.

A couple of thoughts on issues brought before the town board:

We really need new business in Beaver, and we should be very welcoming and helpful to these new businesses. There are regulations and ordinances that have to be followed though, and these should be researched before business start-up, so that there are no surprises. We need to honor our agreement with utility companies who have invested in this community.

Regarding the huge tree that needs to come down next to the city offices. It was stated by a board member that she didnÂ’t believe they could find anyone to take the tree down because it was so huge and in a difficult place to take down safely, and theyÂ’d not been able to find anyone thus far. But when it was made known that a company had finally agreed to tackle such a project, the board then decided it would probably be expensive and they would take bids first.

WellÂ… if you have finally found a company that will agree to do what it takes to bring this tree down safely, I would not look for a cheaper bid. But thatÂ’s just my opinion. Of course, if bids are required, then you cross the t's and dot the i's, but I'd spend the money it took to make this happen safely.

I do also think Reverend Don Griffin needs to re-read the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States, where it specifically states:

“… or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Yes, we elect officials to represent us, and we must have the right to address grievances when they make decisions that we do not believe best represent our community. If you take away that right, then youÂ’ve established a dictatorship.

Also, if you want to do away with the first amendment, then you also remove the right of religious freedom, which is something he really needs to reconsider.

Instead of trying to destroy those who disagree with you, the better approach might be thisÂ…. Make a list of the pros, and make a list of the cons REGARDING THE ISSUE IN QUESTION ONLY.

Now hereÂ’s what IÂ’ve long found interesting when it comes to elections. People do claim that they want something different, and then damned if they donÂ’t elect the same mess again. We see this at every level.

ThatÂ’s why I always have to chuckle when someone proclaims that if we donÂ’t like whatÂ’s going on, we should get our own selves elected. That isnÂ’t going to happen, because when someone does come along that is willing to tackle the difficult issues and try to turn things around, people get real skittish and start calling them radical, and they will end up voting the same old mess back into office.

So, really the only thing that can be done is to gather into groups of citizens, and tackle the issues one at a time, until things are made right. ThatÂ’s the way it has always been done in this great country of ours. If weÂ’d left it up to the elected officials only, women wouldnÂ’t even have the right to vote, and blacks would still be slaves.

Have a good weekend.
I agree totally and am enviable of your eloquence in stating your observations.

I'm glad you got to meet more people, there are great ones here which is what led my whole family back this direction in the first place.

As you, I and others have lived outside the boundaries of this town we have experienced other things communities have to offer which enables us to help, with our vision of what could be more of a reality than just a notion.

Again, thanks for starting this thread. A place that could be a useful tool if participated in with the best interest of the community placed first.

You two have a great one as well.

ALJ

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Just a reader

Mcpherson, KS

#3 Sep 16, 2013
It has been my experience that many people who say, "If you want change, run for office yourself." are of the same ilk of people who say, "if you don't like America's whatever, just leave."
They don't want to hear suggestions and ideas that might help all. They don't want to encourage discourse that would bring in even more ideas that might be beneficial.
They instead want to have a knee jerk reaction to any other opinion and throw a little tantrum.
I find the best leaders are those who can listen to other people in a calm and reasonable fashion. In fact, they invite the differing opinions so they can understand how others are thinking.
People who can't stand up to the ideas and opinons of other are weak and cowardly, IMO.

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Laurie Anderson

Beaver, OK

#4 Sep 16, 2013
If - by Rudyard Kipling

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!

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Laurie Anderson

Hooker, OK

#5 Sep 17, 2013
I appreciate the overwheming support from so very very many of you, whom I lovingly refer to as Beaver's silent majority. This very large silent majority was heard at the last election and I am confident you will make your voices heard in the upcoming elections. I sincerely hope these "problems" are eliminated soon. God bless each and every one of you. <3

Laurie Anderson

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Since: Sep 13

Terrell, TX

#6 Sep 17, 2013
Laurie Anderson wrote:
If - by Rudyard Kipling
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream---and not make dreams your master;
If you can think---and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:.
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings---nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And---which is more---you'll be a Man, my son!
Yes, ONLY IF!

ALJ

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Gerry

Oklahoma City, OK

#7 Sep 18, 2013
Laurie Anderson wrote:
I appreciate the overwheming support from so very very many of you, whom I lovingly refer to as Beaver's silent majority. This very large silent majority was heard at the last election and I am confident you will make your voices heard in the upcoming elections. I sincerely hope these "problems" are eliminated soon. God bless each and every one of you. <3
Laurie Anderson
So, if you think you have all of this support, run for council next election.

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Since: Sep 13

Beaver, OK

#8 Sep 18, 2013
I hope Laurie and April both run for town board. I will be their campaign manager.

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Doug

Dallas, TX

#9 Sep 19, 2013
MelStewart wrote:
I hope Laurie and April both run for town board. I will be their campaign manager.
I agree Mel !
After seeing this going on who in their right mind would want to? But that's what a few of them want, so they can have their way, their perceived little power trip!

Douglas Bobeck

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the truth

Boise City, OK

#10 Sep 19, 2013
When i get a town tattler in the mail,i always make copys and hand them out! if you get one make copys and hand them out, it speakes the truth. Sad theres a local newspaper that wont speak the truth about whats really going on at city hall,but ya can learn how to make a fruit cake or read one chippers point of view for 75cents.

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the truth

Boise City, OK

#11 Sep 19, 2013
Also can someone explain to me what happened with the tri-state heat and air, and the E and L electric bid across from town hall! And is the owners of E and L electric really on the libary board where the mayor works? I just want to know.

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