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nederland resident

Beaumont, TX

#1 Feb 4, 2006
Does anyone have any thoughts about the sex offender ordinance soon to be in Nederland? I think it's a great thing. Happy Nederland is standing up and doing something about it.
Beaumont resident

United States

#2 Feb 7, 2006
I think the proposed ordinance is silly. It is constitutionally suspect. This woman, forget her name, found that two registered sex offenders lived on her street. One had an offense against an adult woman and the other had an indecent exposure conviction, I believe. Neither are violent offenders. Neither are child molesters. While I certainly do not condone indecently exposing ones self to a child, I think this woman is way overreacting. Keep in mind that a sex offender registration is a database of offender's residential addresses. They are free to visit anyone's neighborhood. So while you may have no offenders living in your neighborhood, they may be visiting right next door. The point of Megan's Law is to keep track of "violent sexual predators". I do not think the people of Nederland have any of those types lurking in their midst. If so, Chief Darrell Bush, who has access to all criminal histories of every sex offender in his city would know that. That is who the public should check with before going off half-cocked and asking for an ordinance to virtually ostracize sex offenders and prevent them from living inside the Nederland city limits, which is the whole purpose of this ordinance. What overreacting can do is create vigilante mentality and drive the violent sexual predators underground to continue their dirty deeds. The country is obsessed with sex offenders because of the media coverage of the child sexual murders that have unfortunately happened. A very small fraction of sex offenders are child murderers. Many have offenses against adults, but they are all lumped into one category and the public freaks out. Nederland may never be integrated with a larger population of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals, groups who will all demand their ethnic, cultural and gay pride parades and recognition of their ancestry. Nederland is behind the times and needs to move forward into the 21st century.
lives in Nederland

United States

#3 Feb 7, 2006
I agree. There are only about 26 of these offenders, none that are heinous criminals. I think the lady that went to City Council is influenced by the media hype. All of these offenders have to live somewhere. I would rather know which of my neighbors have committed other crimes. I can't believe the ACLU hasn't jumped in on this one.
Jamie

United States

#4 Feb 7, 2006
Why are you "happy" that Nederland "is doing something about it?" What is Nederland doing? Everyone with a criminal record has the right to live somewhere. There is NOTHING Nederland can do about it. You people are living in a fantasy land. You need to get to know you neighbors instead of judging them and one thing I have not seen said on this forum yet is: Parents need to supervise their children at all times. Nederland is in denial about the rest of the world. No, Nederland does not have the crime that Port Arthur and Beaumont do, but get your heads out of the sand. Sex offenders are doing business in your community, spending their money like everyone else and none of the ones you have sound like predators to me. If they are, they have not been caught yet. So realize that there are those child porn predators sitting in front of computers in Nederland too. Some of the sex offenders Nederland is so worried about may still be on probation. They have strict rules while being on probation. Anyone can pick up the phone, call adult probation and ask to speak to the probation officer supervising anyone that you know who is on probation, for any offense. You may discuss your concerns with them. If they have done something you find suspicious or something that you know is in violation of their probation, report it and it will be dealt with swiftly. Nederland wants to preserve their community by keeping it white, heterosexual and free of all the dirty deeds that belong in larger cities. You are all in denial.
nederland resident

Beaumont, TX

#5 Feb 7, 2006
wow that was more of a Nederland bashing than thoughts about the city ordinance. sorry I asked. you did exactly what you accused Nederland of doing with sex offenders. You lumped people all together.
nederland resident

Beaumont, TX

#6 Feb 7, 2006
This ordinance from what understand is for future offenders moving in. It does'nt move out the ones that are already here. I read in The Examiner yesterday about a 7 year old girl that was raped by a Nederland man. He is up for parole this month and will be moving across from the elementary school and the park. That's the kind of offenders this will keep from living too close to schools. He will not be able to sit out and watch them as they walk by. Now if you don't think an offender thAT raped a 7 year old child is a problem then i don't know what to tell you.
beaumont resident

Beaumont, TX

#7 Feb 7, 2006
lives in Nederland wrote:
I agree. There are only about 26 of these offenders, none that are heinous criminals. I think the lady that went to City Council is influenced by the media hype. All of these offenders have to live somewhere. I would rather know which of my neighbors have committed other crimes. I can't believe the ACLU hasn't jumped in on this one.
I live in Beaumont but work in Nederland. From just what I hear while working in Nederland pretty much the majority in Nederland likes this ordinance. The only ones that have a problem with it are the sex offenders and their families. The chief and police officers are also for it. The paper said they will grandfather the sex offenders that already live in Nederland. They will not be effected. It only effects sex offenders of children. I heard the woman on television say she knew it wasn't a cure all-something like that-but at least she is standing up for the children and not the rights of the molesters- doesn't matter if they are violent or not. They are all capible of hurting our children. ACLU can't touch this ordinance because it doesn't go too far past state laws. It's not like the one in Liberty and Brazoria.
nederland resident

Beaumont, TX

#8 Feb 9, 2006
Beaumont resident wrote:
I think the proposed ordinance is silly. It is constitutionally suspect. This woman, forget her name, found that two registered sex offenders lived on her street. One had an offense against an adult woman and the other had an indecent exposure conviction, I believe. Neither are violent offenders. Neither are child molesters. While I certainly do not condone indecently exposing ones self to a child, I think this woman is way overreacting. Keep in mind that a sex offender registration is a database of offender's residential addresses. They are free to visit anyone's neighborhood. So while you may have no offenders living in your neighborhood, they may be visiting right next door. The point of Megan's Law is to keep track of "violent sexual predators". I do not think the people of Nederland have any of those types lurking in their midst. If so, Chief Darrell Bush, who has access to all criminal histories of every sex offender in his city would know that. That is who the public should check with before going off half-cocked and asking for an ordinance to virtually ostracize sex offenders and prevent them from living inside the Nederland city limits, which is the whole purpose of this ordinance. What overreacting can do is create vigilante mentality and drive the violent sexual predators underground to continue their dirty deeds. The country is obsessed with sex offenders because of the media coverage of the child sexual murders that have unfortunately happened. A very small fraction of sex offenders are child murderers. Many have offenses against adults, but they are all lumped into one category and the public freaks out. Nederland may never be integrated with a larger population of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals, groups who will all demand their ethnic, cultural and gay pride parades and recognition of their ancestry. Nederland is behind the times and needs to move forward into the 21st century.
So you are saying that if a man exposes himself to a child you don't consider him a child molester. Your as sick as he is. I pray to god there are not many people like you out there. With a belief like yours we will never be able to keep our kids safe. I sure hope you don't have children. That's extremely sick.
nederland too

Houston, TX

#9 Feb 15, 2006
I agree with those who think this idea is “silly.” It is the parents and grandparents responsibility to know who lives in their neighborhood and to protect their children accordingly.

Along a similar topic, someone in the city of Pt. Neches proposed and ordinance a few months ago that would ban residents from owning Pit Bull dogs because these dogs are notoriously dangerous (although I am unaware of any children being mauled to death by dogs in the city). That resolution failed to pass.

A solution to the problem: move the sex offenders to the outskirts of town and let them own the Pit Bulls.
nederland

Groves, TX

#10 Feb 15, 2006
nederland too wrote:
I agree with those who think this idea is “silly.” It is the parents and grandparents responsibility to know who lives in their neighborhood and to protect their children accordingly.

Along a similar topic, someone in the city of Pt. Neches proposed and ordinance a few months ago that would ban residents from owning Pit Bull dogs because these dogs are notoriously dangerous (although I am unaware of any children being mauled to death by dogs in the city). That resolution failed to pass.

A solution to the problem: move the sex offenders to the outskirts of town and let them own the Pit Bulls.
Why do you have to wait for something to happen before an ordinance is enacted. Of course parents have to watch their kids. I think your sex offender joke and pitbull joke is a little sick. It's not a subject to take so lightly.
nederland too

Houston, TX

#11 Feb 15, 2006
I don’t think I am taking it “lightly.” Laws are meant for the good of the whole, not just a select few (although I’m sure there are a few out there that benefit the minority). It is not the responsibility of the city to baby-sit each child individually. The parents should be aware of those sex offenders already. There are several websites that list names, addresses, and even pictures of the offenders for all to see. And even then, although it’s law, not all registered offenders update there information when they move. As a previous post noted, who’s to say that your neighbor is a sexual predator that just hasn’t been caught yet?
nederland

Groves, TX

#12 Feb 15, 2006
nederland too wrote:
I don’t think I am taking it “lightly.” Laws are meant for the good of the whole, not just a select few (although I’m sure there are a few out there that benefit the minority). It is not the responsibility of the city to baby-sit each child individually. The parents should be aware of those sex offenders already. There are several websites that list names, addresses, and even pictures of the offenders for all to see. And even then, although it’s law, not all registered offenders update there information when they move. As a previous post noted, who’s to say that your neighbor is a sexual predator that just hasn’t been caught yet?
That's why we have to continue to watch our kids-you never know who may move in next door. Apparently the Nederland city council is for this ordinaace. It was in the paper that the city attorney is drawing up this ordinance, You never know Pt. Neches may be next.
lumberton

Groves, TX

#13 Feb 15, 2006
Sounds like Nederland is standing up and getting things moving in the right direction in South East Texas.
lumberton

Groves, TX

#14 Feb 16, 2006
Does anyone know what the website is for the sex offender eamil alerts?
in beaumont

Groves, TX

#15 Feb 16, 2006
I think your talking about scanusa.com . I know you can go there and register and put in several zip codes and an email alert will be issued as sex offenders move into your community. That's the one I have.
Beaumont Texas

Port Arthur, TX

#16 Feb 18, 2006
The Attorney General was trying to locate 22 sex offenders that hadn't registered. They found one working for Lamar in the food servive dept. He was slapped with a misdemeanor for not registering. Isn't that something? He now lives in Nederland in the Central Gardens area. Not much of a punishment for not registering.
ChadnNederland

Port Arthur, TX

#17 Mar 16, 2006
Some of you are morans saying it's time to move into the 21st century by accepting sexual predators. They all need to be shot in the head and dumped in the river. I'm sure those who consider exposing oneself to a child not being a child molestor is also the same type of person that considers some child porn art. You people are pathetic.
S n Nederland

Beaumont, TX

#18 Mar 17, 2006
Some people just don't see the seriousness of a sex crime upon a child. It follows them thought out their lives. Let's put kids before the sex offender for once. He or she should have lost all rights when they offended. They deserve nothing. They should live in torment like the victim has to.
S n Nederland

Beaumont, TX

#19 Mar 18, 2006
Beaumont resident wrote:
I think the proposed ordinance is silly. It is constitutionally suspect. This woman, forget her name, found that two registered sex offenders lived on her street. One had an offense against an adult woman and the other had an indecent exposure conviction, I believe. Neither are violent offenders. Neither are child molesters. While I certainly do not condone indecently exposing ones self to a child, I think this woman is way overreacting. Keep in mind that a sex offender registration is a database of offender's residential addresses. They are free to visit anyone's neighborhood. So while you may have no offenders living in your neighborhood, they may be visiting right next door. The point of Megan's Law is to keep track of "violent sexual predators". I do not think the people of Nederland have any of those types lurking in their midst. If so, Chief Darrell Bush, who has access to all criminal histories of every sex offender in his city would know that. That is who the public should check with before going off half-cocked and asking for an ordinance to virtually ostracize sex offenders and prevent them from living inside the Nederland city limits, which is the whole purpose of this ordinance. What overreacting can do is create vigilante mentality and drive the violent sexual predators underground to continue their dirty deeds. The country is obsessed with sex offenders because of the media coverage of the child sexual murders that have unfortunately happened. A very small fraction of sex offenders are child murderers. Many have offenses against adults, but they are all lumped into one category and the public freaks out. Nederland may never be integrated with a larger population of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals, groups who will all demand their ethnic, cultural and gay pride parades and recognition of their ancestry. Nederland is behind the times and needs to move forward into the 21st century.
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL LEARN NEVER TO LET THEM OUT OF PRISON IN THE FIRST PLACE.A crime committed upon a child deserves life in prison with the chance to ever get out.
mab

Lexington, SC

#20 Mar 19, 2006
There's where you have your facts wrong. This has nothing to do with media hype. Unless this ordinance is passed fairly soon, one of these "harmless" sex offenders, Scott Robicheaux, will be living at 2303 Ave G (when he is paroled from prison for the rape and death threat he perpetrated against a 7 year old child in 2002. By the way, his address just happens to be right across from Dornbos Park. I'm glad to see your so interested in the rights of pedophiles but what about the rights of the INNOCENT CHILDREN. FACT: SEX OFFENDERS HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES OF RECIDIVISM particularly PEDOPHILES.

P.S. Exposing yourself to a child is a sex offense against a child and where many pedophiles start.
Beaumont resident wrote:
I think the proposed ordinance is silly. It is constitutionally suspect. This woman, forget her name, found that two registered sex offenders lived on her street. One had an offense against an adult woman and the other had an indecent exposure conviction, I believe. Neither are violent offenders. Neither are child molesters. While I certainly do not condone indecently exposing ones self to a child, I think this woman is way overreacting. Keep in mind that a sex offender registration is a database of offender's residential addresses. They are free to visit anyone's neighborhood. So while you may have no offenders living in your neighborhood, they may be visiting right next door. The point of Megan's Law is to keep track of "violent sexual predators". I do not think the people of Nederland have any of those types lurking in their midst. If so, Chief Darrell Bush, who has access to all criminal histories of every sex offender in his city would know that. That is who the public should check with before going off half-cocked and asking for an ordinance to virtually ostracize sex offenders and prevent them from living inside the Nederland city limits, which is the whole purpose of this ordinance. What overreacting can do is create vigilante mentality and drive the violent sexual predators underground to continue their dirty deeds. The country is obsessed with sex offenders because of the media coverage of the child sexual murders that have unfortunately happened. A very small fraction of sex offenders are child murderers. Many have offenses against adults, but they are all lumped into one category and the public freaks out. Nederland may never be integrated with a larger population of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, homosexuals, groups who will all demand their ethnic, cultural and gay pride parades and recognition of their ancestry. Nederland is behind the times and needs to move forward into the 21st century.

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