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Jason Dunaway

Elkridge, MD

#1 Jun 14, 2012
Thanks so much for that informative update on the Walmart SuperCenter situation... Oh-- and for educating me on the drug problem as well as people abusing the foodstamp program by buying excess cases of pop... I would have never known that.
As far as comparing me to Pam, why don't you look in the mirror as your own stupidity, which I must say, appears to be on an overwhelming scale. Better yet, why don't you post your real name and stop cowering behind initials. But I suppose that true cowards such as yourself can only lay back in the shadows while you're pointing the finger, claiming that eveybody else is stupid or don't know what they're talking about.
People like you make me sick... You're the one that's far too stupid to be posting anything on this or any other website... If you think that you can post a few scathing words and try to rattle me, you're sorely mistaken. You are way out of your league. Go back to middle school and debate a seventh-grader or something. Don't try to outwit the big dogs.
ankle biter

Ivel, KY

#2 Jun 14, 2012
You think you're a big dog? You are more like an ankle-biting chihuahua. You have no idea to whom you are talking. You know nothing of my educational level, what I do for a living, how informed I am or anything else. You are drowning in your own self-superiority and are unable to notice when you are in the presence of your intellectual betters. Which, I am rapidly concluding, would include the rats that used to run around in the back of what used to be Jackie Hollon's feed store downtown.

If you are willing to believe everything the feds tell you about how safe the community would have been had the prison been turned into a federal contractor, then you are about as gullible as the person who bought the Brooklyn Bridge. Did you not read the information presented when the contract was being discussed? Did you not note that the prison was going to house foreign nationals? This wasn't going to be some Club Fed that housed white-collar crooks like Bunt Gross.

This community is much better off as a whole with the prison not getting the federal contract. I guess you are one of the alarmists who bought into the hype that the prison would close if that federal contract fell through. Guess what, waterboy? The prison is still very much open for business.

It's not often that I agree with Norma Moore, but she was 100 percent spot on about this subject.

I don't know you. I don't recognize your name. I never heard of you. But I will remember your name and I will be sure to vote against you and campaign against you if you ever run for office, because if you are willing to swallow the propaganda that the feds were pushing about how great that contract would have been for the community, you're too dumb to hold public office. I'm guessing you're one of these 20-somethings who thinks he knows everything but doesn't have the benefit of years of real-life experience to teach you how the real world works.

I am still glad the prison didn't get the federal contract. It didn't need it, and this community sure didn't need it. I thought it was a bad idea and a whole lot of other people did too.

Please show your great intellect and explain how the benefits would have outweighed the risks. I'll be waiting to see how far out of your rear end you pull your answer.
Jason Dunaway

Elkridge, MD

#3 Jun 15, 2012
I suppose that no one will ever know your name, given that you continually cower behind a bogus name... Oh, and BTW, my name is Jason Dunaway, and I have no intentions of running for political office, nor do I give a damn about your educational level or about your so-called intelligence.
Now that all of that's out of the way, let's talk about your ass-kissing fest of Norma Moore... It's relatively simple, regardless of how you or anyone else twists the facts around: More jobs= more revenue= a better local economy. It's basic economics, SMH/ankle biter-- or is your "educational level/superior intelligence not allowing you to suffiently soak this in?
I understand the setbacks of a prison being in any city, whether it is minimum, medium or maxium security. There will be problems, even with minimum security (like Blackburn in Lexington), given that the inmates can waltz right out of the front gates. There are also problems with worrying about the family members of prisoners taking up residence in the area, or worse, gang affiliations.
You wanted me to weigh the bad against the good, right? You could do that with any corporation that desires to set up its business in any town... 25 or 30 years ago, towns like Richmond or even Hazard had very little commerce, but look at them now- especially Richmond. That town has grown immensely, and they have business-growth to thank for that.
Why does there seem to be a raging war against business-growth in towns like Booneville or Beattyville? There are a lot of people who would love to work locally if they were able, but for the most part, that just isn't possible.
A few years back, and you can try to refute this all you want, but the truth is the truth, McDonald's attempted to come to Beattyville, and local politics kept them out-- REALLY! What would possess any town to block a major company as successful as McDonald's from coming to their city? Ask yourself that... You too Norma. If a person didn't know any better, they might start to think that towns such as that simply didn't want their city to grow, but stay just as they are.
If that's the case, then so be it. If a town is content with a couple of stoplights, a couple of banks, a couple of places to dine, and one or two small business, then I guess complacency is the new way to go. That is the recipe of a town that has very little and is striving to keep it that way.
Wake up, SMH/angle biter/the person who is too cowardly to post their name.
prove your claim

Wheelwright, KY

#4 Jun 15, 2012
Got any proof that McDonald's wanted to come to Beattyville? Got any names of those who wanted them kept out? No one kept out Druthers/Dairy Queen when they came to town. I've heard this fable before but no one has ever offered any proof.

If your scenario is true, then why and how did the local auto parts stores allow Advance to set up a store? How did the local drug stores allow Rite Aid to come in? Why did they allow Workman Oil (Apple Market) to buy out the Shell Mart? How did they allow the A&W and Burger King and Pizza Hut Express to come into town a few years ago when they did? Why did the great and powerful Charlie Beach not keep Farmers State Bank from expanding into Beattyville?

If your examples had any merit to them, Everett Lee Marshall and Bill Begley would have stopped Advance. The Smiths would have stopped Rite Aid. And so on.

Your logic doesn't hold water. You're starting to sound like loony Pam and her talk about a nonexistent "clique."

Why are Richmond and Hazard growing? For Richmond, there are three factors: the college, the interstate and proximity to Lexington. For Hazard, it's central location in the area, good highways and coal.

Beattyville and Booneville have no advantages in location, little coal to speak of, no college and terrible roads.

There would have been no discernible economic benefits to the prison getting the federal contract. Wages would not have gone up by an appreciable amount. The number of new hires would not have gone up by any noticeable figure.

Right now Beattyville's best hope for economic development is tourism. If we start getting more people in town to stay at the lodges/cabins/B&Bs, do the rock climbing thing, etc., then we can start to establish retail and dining to cater to the tourists.

Our location (and the lack of education and the drug dependency of our citizenry) will continue to hamper us for any traditional industrial growth. Put Lee and Owsley together and you still don't have a population base large enough to sustain traditional economic growth. Certainly not what your examples of Richmond and Hazard have enjoyed.

I know of no one who does not want economic progress for Beattyville. There are a lot of people who are working hard toward that goal, and that includes current civic and business leaders. Some of us just have different and more rational definitions of progress than others.
internet user

Wheelwright, KY

#5 Jun 15, 2012
By the way, "SMH" means "shaking my head." Apparently the person who got under your skin so badly was shaking his or her head at your ignorance.

Now run along and be a good boy and believe everything the government tells you.
Okay

Pikeville, KY

#6 Jun 15, 2012
Tourism, they still have to have a place to stay, places to eat and so on and so on, Bottom line it ain't going to happen.
Pam

Auburn Hills, MI

#7 Jun 15, 2012
ankle biter wrote:
You have no idea to whom you are talking. You know nothing of my educational level, what I do for a living, how informed I am or anything else.
I did not read all this crap but I'll tell you exactly who and what you are...your are A DRAMA LUVIN topix anonymous coward who wants to act all educated ...news flash: your rants and raves on topix don't prove jackshit
Spam

Georgetown, KY

#8 Jun 15, 2012
Thanks Pam for your worthless insight as usual. That whole McDonalds thing is a big lie and everybody knows it. No great conspiracy has ever kept McDonalds or Walmart out of Beattyille. And what if we had them? A couple of minimum wage jobs for a trade off of destroying what little local business we have left? Whoopie.
Pam

Auburn Hills, MI

#9 Jun 15, 2012
You want to put your 2 cents in and expect ppl to respect it yet you give no name?

give us your name and let us decide if you are legit.

hell, give us a hint of who you are other then "hey, you don't know who your talking to"...no we don't because you prefer to remain an anonymous coward
factrs are facts

Wheelwright, KY

#10 Jun 15, 2012
Doesn't matter if a name is posted or not. Facts are facts no matter who says them. They speak for themselves and need no validation by naming who posts them.

Pam probably thinks the prison didn't get the federal contract because David Land slammed a door on her kid's hand.
typos are typos

Wheelwright, KY

#11 Jun 15, 2012
Oops! That should be "facts are facts."

Typos happen.

But while I'm here...

There were always rumors that Charlie Beach (little Charlie) has kept this business or that business from coming to town. That's silly on its face because more businesses mean more people working, and that means more customers for Peoples Exchange Bank.

The only thing Charlie has done is to keep a new post office from being built out on the new road. He claims it will destroy downtown, but the real reason is because he owns the building where the PO is now. I did not know that until I saw documents pertaining to the Main Street revitalization program listing who owned what building. Learning that explained a lot.
Pam

Auburn Hills, MI

#13 Jun 15, 2012
factrs are facts wrote:
Doesn't matter if a name is posted or not. Facts are facts no matter who says them. They speak for themselves and need no validation by naming who posts them.
Pam probably thinks the prison didn't get the federal contract because David Land slammed a door on her kid's hand.
Perhaps the prison didn’t get the contract because they have nothing but dicksuckingblohardqueers working there who couldn‘t keep an ant outta the kitchen let alone a prisoner under control?
go away

Elkton, KY

#14 Jun 15, 2012
stay away. play on mich topix and leave lee co in your past. thanks!
chatty

United States

#15 Jun 16, 2012
Actually yes, there is proof...research the Beattyville Enterprise aroundd early 90s and there is a headline abt MacDonalds being shut out of the Ville...by none other than Mayor Charles Beach III, Druthers/DQ's property was, at the time, owned by Mayor Beach. In fact MacDonalds wanted to buy the property where Begley Auto now sits but the city wouldn't sell them that spot of land right in front of where they planted all those trees that Mr. Begley later had cut down...do your research and go to the Enterprise and look at their back issues and there is your proof. Regarding the other businesses that didn't block competitors from coming in...they were not the mayor. And your claim that Hazard and Richmond were not thriving towns 30 years ago is just pure lies... Both of these towns have had good leadership and put their citizens before their own intrests. Keep smoking that pipe dream of tourism while progress marches by.
prove your claim wrote:
Got any proof that McDonald's wanted to come to Beattyville? Got any names of those who wanted them kept out? No one kept out Druthers/Dairy Queen when they came to town. I've heard this fable before but no one has ever offered any proof.
If your scenario is true, then why and how did the local auto parts stores allow Advance to set up a store? How did the local drug stores allow Rite Aid to come in? Why did they allow Workman Oil (Apple Market) to buy out the Shell Mart? How did they allow the A&W and Burger King and Pizza Hut Express to come into town a few years ago when they did? Why did the great and powerful Charlie Beach not keep Farmers State Bank from expanding into Beattyville?
If your examples had any merit to them, Everett Lee Marshall and Bill Begley would have stopped Advance. The Smiths would have stopped Rite Aid. And so on.
Your logic doesn't hold water. You're starting to sound like loony Pam and her talk about a nonexistent "clique."
Why are Richmond and Hazard growing? For Richmond, there are three factors: the college, the interstate and proximity to Lexington. For Hazard, it's central location in the area, good highways and coal.
Beattyville and Booneville have no advantages in location, little coal to speak of, no college and terrible roads.
There would have been no discernible economic benefits to the prison getting the federal contract. Wages would not have gone up by an appreciable amount. The number of new hires would not have gone up by any noticeable figure.
Right now Beattyville's best hope for economic development is tourism. If we start getting more people in town to stay at the lodges/cabins/B&Bs, do the rock climbing thing, etc., then we can start to establish retail and dining to cater to the tourists.
Our location (and the lack of education and the drug dependency of our citizenry) will continue to hamper us for any traditional industrial growth. Put Lee and Owsley together and you still don't have a population base large enough to sustain traditional economic growth. Certainly not what your examples of Richmond and Hazard have enjoyed.
I know of no one who does not want economic progress for Beattyville. There are a lot of people who are working hard toward that goal, and that includes current civic and business leaders. Some of us just have different and more rational definitions of progress than others.
I call BS

United States

#16 Jun 16, 2012
chatty wrote:
Actually yes, there is proof...research the Beattyville Enterprise aroundd early 90s and there is a headline abt MacDonalds being shut out of the Ville...by none other than Mayor Charles Beach III,
That's bull crap. I have read every issue of the Enterprise since the mid 1970s and if there had been such a headline, I would certainly remember it.
chatty

United States

#17 Jun 18, 2012
Nope, no bc...totally fact...believe it....that headline nearly got everyone working there fired. The General nearly had a stroke that someone had the nerve to call out his son...and really if it weren't true, the BE would not exist today.
I call BS wrote:
<quoted text>
That's bull crap. I have read every issue of the Enterprise since the mid 1970s and if there had been such a headline, I would certainly remember it.
chatty

United States

#18 Jun 18, 2012
No one is calling it a "great conspiracy" just business as usual conducted in plain sight in a city council meeting...ask Joanne Dunaway, she is the one that asked Charlie that hot button question when no one else had the nerve. And obtw Walmart would probably hire more people than currently work on Main St. And obviously you are the only one that doesn't know that MacDonalds was shut out by the city.
Spam wrote:
Thanks Pam for your worthless insight as usual. That whole McDonalds thing is a big lie and everybody knows it. No great conspiracy has ever kept McDonalds or Walmart out of Beattyille. And what if we had them? A couple of minimum wage jobs for a trade off of destroying what little local business we have left? Whoopie.
seem

Columbia, MD

#19 Jun 18, 2012
chatty wrote:
No one is calling it a "great conspiracy" just business as usual conducted in plain sight in a city council meeting...ask Joanne Dunaway, she is the one that asked Charlie that hot button question when no one else had the nerve. And obtw Walmart would probably hire more people than currently work on Main St. And obviously you are the only one that doesn't know that MacDonalds was shut out by the city.<quoted text>
I think I have to agree with this poster. I barely remember reading something in the paper about McDonald's being shut out.
What I can't understand is how people think tourism is going make it big in that area. There really isnt any money in tourism like what you have to offer. There isn't anything really special to make you stand out from all the other little hole in the walls towns.
chimingin

United States

#20 Jun 19, 2012
You're totally right to agree with Chatty, the family that owned where Begley Auto Parts now sits had made a deal with McD's but when that company tried to buy the strip of land directly in front of the property from the city it was said that there were some sort of lines located there and the city refused to sell it to McD's and the deal fell through because it was crucial to their flow of traffic, design, etc. Now if that isn't shutting out a new business who had already made the deal arrangement, just not finalized, by a Mayor who owned the only other fast food biz in town , Dairy Queen, what is? Tell me, what would you call it? This family later sold the property to Mr. Begley who promptly had the trees cut down because it blocked his signage much to the dismay of the Mayor and Council
seem wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I have to agree with this poster. I barely remember reading something in the paper about McDonald's being shut out.
What I can't understand is how people think tourism is going make it big in that area. There really isnt any money in tourism like what you have to offer. There isn't anything really special to make you stand out from all the other little hole in the walls towns.
good

Elkton, KY

#21 Jun 19, 2012
those white pear trees or whatever they are are freaking UGLY anyways if that is what they were?

Mc D's right there WOULD create traffic problems I believe.

Cut all those ugly white trees down and no more clear Christmas lights.... they are stupid... pretty colored lights are for Christmas not ugly plain jane clear light

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