red light camera law

[I hate Mex]

High Desert wrote:

Every morning, while going to work, I cross the Bea Valley/I-15 red light intersections. These things are nit working correctly! I've seen them go off when the winds blow, on a totally green signal, thus blinding any driver who was looking towards the strobe lights. I've seen them repeatedly f;ash on a empty intersection, and I've seen them fire the second the light turns yellow. Anyone who received a red light ticket ought to sue the agency who runs them. Our lives are at risk, all in the name of more city revenue.

shot-up. crie baby

[CPagan]

It appears to me that the best approach to this problem would be for the city themselves to find a way to internally monitor these designated targeted area without the expense of outsourcing it out. Is there a wy that just maybe the city itself through its IT division can somehow install these camera, maybe through a VPN set up have direct assess to internal monitoring device, you know similiar to ADT or similiar companies like that. Hell, maybe they can somehow tie it directly to the actual police stations main hub and creat a division that will serve as the monitoring command center. Or, they can simply go back to the basic fundementals of hiring more cops, assigning them to those areas, and having them do their jobs. If its a matter of cost, then heck, im sure with all the money going out, they can somehow hire qualify professionals to find a way to monitor them internally....

Not a bad thought....Keep the revenue in house guys....outsourcing business sometimes is not always your best profit saving outllet...

[Resident]

Storm019, the issue is people slamming on their brakes in fear of gettin a red light ticket, when the light is not red or just turned yellow, you know when it is still safe to proceed as the law states. I have had that happen to me at Waterman and Hospitality, and we were going less than the speed limit 5-10 MPH to make a left turn. As stated the red light camera's were sold as a gimmick to make money, not for safety, as we can see how flawed they are.

[Michael]

I'm at the city council meeting now, and it has come up, and demanded. It's a political bonanza here, this evening, since it is the eve of the election. So I dont know what will stick. But I found out that, we have more cameras in our city, then any other municiplity in our area. I guess we needed money more?

[Rich Smith]

CPagan wrote:

It appears to me that the best approach to this problem would be for the city themselves to find a way to internally monitor these designated targeted area without the expense of outsourcing it out. Is there a wy that just maybe the city itself through its IT division can somehow install these camera, maybe through a VPN set up have direct assess to internal monitoring device, you know similiar to ADT or similiar companies like that. Hell, maybe they can somehow tie it directly to the actual police stations main hub and creat a division that will serve as the monitoring command center. Or, they can simply go back to the basic fundementals of hiring more cops, assigning them to those areas, and having them do their jobs. If its a matter of cost, then heck, im sure with all the money going out, they can somehow hire qualify professionals to find a way to monitor them internally....
Not a bad thought....Keep the revenue in house guys....outsourcing business sometimes is not always your best profit saving outllet...

Everything you have mentioned takes only one thing ... MONEY.

[roadtrip]

Congrats! This may be the best article you guys have printed in 15 years! A trend perhaps?

[Henry]

Most of the cities discussed have a real problem, which everyone seems to be ignoring: Their contract with the company supplying the cameras contains a cost-neutral clause like that found in two cities where the contract has recently been overturned on appeal.(San Mateo, Fullerton.) Cost neutral contracts violate Veh. Code 21455.5(g). It is just a question of how long it will take the local courts to begin ruling like in OC and San Mateo counties. Then there will have to be refunds of the tickets. Or, there will be a class action suit to force the refunds. I think that some of the cities that are closing their systems are doing it to minimize their liability in the suits to come.

Another secret about the tickets: Drivers anywhere in California need to know about Snitch Tickets, which are fake/phishing red light camera tickets sent out by some CA police departments to bluff the registered owner into ID'ing the actual driver of the car.(Local cities using them are Corona, Loma Linda, Moreno Valley, Riverside, and Victorville.) Snitch Tickets haven't been filed with the court so they don't say "Notice to Appear," don't have the court's address, and say (on the back, in small letters), "Do not contact the court." Since they have NOT been filed with the court, they have no legal weight. You can ignore a Snitch Ticket. If in doubt, Google the term.