Secret golf committee meetings

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Bill

Houston, TX

#1 Apr 2, 2013
I posted a question on Mr. Mouton's facebook this morning asking him why, since he is on the golf committee, they do not have minutes or notes of those meetings. What is the golf committee hiding?

Since he is running for Mayor I find it very odd that he didn't insist on minutes or notes for the public record. When I requested such minutes / notes for the golf committee I was told that the city had NONE!

The city needs transparency, not secret meetings. I can only conclude that, if elected, he would conduct some business in secret and not be transparent as he is doing on the golf committee.

IMO, we should not support anyone that operates in secret.

The current Mayor is also on that committee and he endorses Mr. Mouton, that should give everyone a clue as to what you can expect in the future if Mr. Mouton is elected, IMO, judge for yourself.

The citizens have been denied minutes for the golf committee. Citizens have a huge investment of their taxes in the golf course , about
$30 million. No more back room deals!

This is another we'll vote on it, and then you can read what is in it! Does Obama health care ring a bell?
bgitex

Pasadena, TX

#2 Apr 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
I posted a question on Mr. Mouton's facebook this morning asking him why, since he is on the golf committee, they do not have minutes or notes of those meetings. What is the golf committee hiding?
Since he is running for Mayor I find it very odd that he didn't insist on minutes or notes for the public record. When I requested such minutes / notes for the golf committee I was told that the city had NONE!
The city needs transparency, not secret meetings. I can only conclude that, if elected, he would conduct some business in secret and not be transparent as he is doing on the golf committee.
IMO, we should not support anyone that operates in secret.
The current Mayor is also on that committee and he endorses Mr. Mouton, that should give everyone a clue as to what you can expect in the future if Mr. Mouton is elected, IMO, judge for yourself.
The citizens have been denied minutes for the golf committee. Citizens have a huge investment of their taxes in the golf course , about
$30 million. No more back room deals!
This is another we'll vote on it, and then you can read what is in it! Does Obama health care ring a bell?
Bill what a great question & a great statement.
Captain

Deer Park, TX

#3 Apr 2, 2013
Bill wrote:
I posted a question on Mr. Mouton's facebook this morning asking him why, since he is on the golf committee, they do not have minutes or notes of those meetings. What is the golf committee hiding?
Since he is running for Mayor I find it very odd that he didn't insist on minutes or notes for the public record. When I requested such minutes / notes for the golf committee I was told that the city had NONE!
The city needs transparency, not secret meetings. I can only conclude that, if elected, he would conduct some business in secret and not be transparent as he is doing on the golf committee.
IMO, we should not support anyone that operates in secret.
The current Mayor is also on that committee and he endorses Mr. Mouton, that should give everyone a clue as to what you can expect in the future if Mr. Mouton is elected, IMO, judge for yourself.
The citizens have been denied minutes for the golf committee. Citizens have a huge investment of their taxes in the golf course , about
$30 million. No more back room deals!
This is another we'll vote on it, and then you can read what is in it! Does Obama health care ring a bell?
Hey, here is a question for you. Why don't you get a life other than being the village idiot?
Scooby

Deer Park, TX

#4 Apr 3, 2013
Bill wrote:
I posted a question on Mr. Mouton's facebook this morning asking him why, since he is on the golf committee, they do not have minutes or notes of those meetings. What is the golf committee hiding?
Since he is running for Mayor I find it very odd that he didn't insist on minutes or notes for the public record. When I requested such minutes / notes for the golf committee I was told that the city had NONE!
The city needs transparency, not secret meetings. I can only conclude that, if elected, he would conduct some business in secret and not be transparent as he is doing on the golf committee.
IMO, we should not support anyone that operates in secret.
The current Mayor is also on that committee and he endorses Mr. Mouton, that should give everyone a clue as to what you can expect in the future if Mr. Mouton is elected, IMO, judge for yourself.
The citizens have been denied minutes for the golf committee. Citizens have a huge investment of their taxes in the golf course , about
$30 million. No more back room deals!
This is another we'll vote on it, and then you can read what is in it! Does Obama health care ring a bell?
Well said!
Scooby Do!
Really

Houston, TX

#5 Apr 3, 2013
Captain wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, here is a question for you. Why don't you get a life other than being the village idiot?
Prolly cause you had the village Azzhole job locked down tight!
noname

Houston, TX

#6 Apr 4, 2013
Why

Houston, TX

#7 Apr 4, 2013
Posted: Monday, March 25, 2013 4:09 pm
Attorney General Abbott defends act, calls decision a win for openness
AUSTIN – Attorney General Greg Abbott issued the following statement after the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review a recent lower-court decision regarding the Texas Open Meetings Act:

"Open, transparent government is fundamental to our democratic system of government. Today’s decision ensures that the Texas Open Meetings Act will continue holding elected officials accountable to conduct the taxpayers' business in the light of day and in a manner that informs the public about government decision-making. Texans have a right to know about their government, their elected representatives and the policies that are being adopted on the public's behalf and, thanks to today’s ruling, that openness will continue."

Good decision. Who is serving on the golf committee?
Meetings

Houston, TX

#8 Apr 4, 2013
4. Are committees of a governing body subject to the Open Meetings Act?
A committee created by a governmental body is not subject to the Act if it is purely advisory in nature.9 However, if the committee has the power to make final decisions or the power to adopt rules regarding public business, then the committee is subject to the Act. Also, if the committee issues recommendations that are usually approved in full without discussion by the governing body or it routinely “rubber-stamps” the committee=s recommendations, then the committee is subject to the Act.10
The governing body will need to review the authority of the committee and how the committee’s actions are treated by it to determine whether the Act will apply to the committee. One factor may be the presence of members of the governing body on the committee, because even though they may constitute less than a quorum of the governing body, they may lack only the consent of one more member of the governing body to pass the committee=s decision.11 Also, the governmental body should review the committee=s bylaws, city charters, ordinances or orders to see if there is a special provision requiring the committee to follow the Act. If there is such a local requirement, it would apply even if the Act would not otherwise require compliance. However, the governing body cannot waive the requirements of the Act through an ordinance or an order.
Further, a committee meeting could be subject to the Act if a quorum of the appointing governmental body attends the meeting and deliberates with the committee about public business or public policy.12 The presence of a quorum of the appointing governmental body and deliberation about the appointing governmental body’s public business would also constitute a meeting of that body, and that body would be subject to the Act, as well as the committee meeting.
Vote

Houston, TX

#9 Apr 4, 2013
So do they "have" to take minutes? Do they "have" to provide notice of such meetings? They should want to provide notice and minutes of golf course meetings, it's just a committee meeting. Transparency should be a priority of our leaders. Vote for leaders who advocate transparency! Also, if they talk about wanting to balance a budget, but have no plan of action written somewhere run the other way as talk is cheap. Explain to us how you plan to do the things you envision. Questions for the candidates.
1. What does your ideal city government look like?
2. What are your hot buttons concerning our city?
3. What does transparency of city business mean to you?
4. All candidates say they want a balanced budget, what will you do to make sure the next budget gets balanced?
5. Are you satisfied with our amenities and programs?
6. What areas need improvement?
7. What is the state of our infrastructure?
8. What programs would you like to see dissolved and why?
9. What programs would you like to see expand?
10. What programs would you like added?
11. Do think term limits have a place here? Should the issue be put on the ballot?
12. Are you for or against using the remainder of the sales tax to use toward property tax relief?
13. How do you plan to do the things you envision?
14. How many council meetings have you attended before you filed for the position you are seeking?
15. What ways have you been involved with the City of Deer Park and it's people?
16. Why are you running for your position?
I hope that Mr. Boles, Ms. Garrison, Mr. Mouton, Mr. Pound and Mr. Cernosek will take the time to answer these questions on this forum. Thank you.
Funny

Houston, TX

#10 Apr 4, 2013
I hope they answer all the questions. It is doubtful.
Funny

Houston, TX

#11 Apr 5, 2013
Still waiting!
Bill

Houston, TX

#12 Apr 6, 2013
Funny wrote:
Still waiting!
Why not give them a call and schedule a time to visit to get your answers?

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