Niece questions official account of Baytown jail death

Aug 25, 2008 Full story: Houston Chronicle 14

The niece of a man who died while in the Baytown Municipal Jail said Monday that police told her he died after suffering seizures.

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Desi

Baytown, TX

#1 Aug 26, 2008
There are just some folks who can't stay out of trouble. Oh yes, it's got to be someone elses fault ! Guess "The Texas Hammer" will now become involved. Here we go again !
blogging bitch

Norman Park, GA

#2 Aug 28, 2008
Desi wrote:
There are just some folks who can't stay out of trouble. Oh yes, it's got to be someone elses fault ! Guess "The Texas Hammer" will now become involved. Here we go again !
This is some one uncle put ur self in her shoes
Desi

Baytown, TX

#3 Aug 29, 2008
Don't care what he is........he's been nothing but trouble ! There are just some folks who can't avoid trouble.......
Annie

United States

#4 Sep 4, 2008
Desi wrote:
Don't care what he is........he's been nothing but trouble ! There are just some folks who can't avoid trouble.......
You don't know who he WAS but "he's been nothing but trouble". We can assume you knew or did not know this man?

An acquantance of mine knew him and befriended him. By chance I met him and saw him twice in passing. When that unhappy, bedraggled face stared up at me from the newspaper, I recognized him and I felt a pang of sorrow. He was, when I was around him, polite, respectful and friendly and that's how I "measured" him; as a human being with some softness and light buried down inside.

He was an alcoholic and yes, you can be sure he brought disappointment and worry to those who knew and loved him. And, you can be sure that he was, at times, unhappy and lost in that haze. I have known alcoholics. They lead a sad and miserable existance when on the skids. But, none of them are worthless. Even more pitiful, they are not unawares; they know what others think. Alcoholism is a disease and not easily cured. Someone must be around the victim to support and offer encourageemt. Someone has to give a dammed.

However long he was to live and whatever confusion he may have caused, he did not commit a crime against humanity, just against himself. When he was in the custody of BPD, he should have been safe.
Shaun

Channelview, TX

#5 Sep 6, 2008
Have you ever been to the Baytown Jail? Some of the jailers are stuck on a power trip. It doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. Last I checked, being drunk wasn't punishable by death. Why wasn't this guy put in the detox cell? That's what usually happens to keep themselves and others out of danger. What happened to the good ol' days when they would rush in and hog tie that person up and drag them out until they calmed down? Why have they resorted to assaulting people?This isn't the first person that has died as a result of Baytown P.D. using excessive force. It sounds to me from what I've seen that B.P.D. has a chip on their shoulder.
Annie

United States

#6 Sep 7, 2008
Shaun, I agree. However, you have one misconception. Baytown employs civilians to oversee the Jail. We don't know, yet, what conclusions will come after the autopsy. I assume they can tell if the victim suffered a beating prior to arriving at the Jail or if this occurred after he was processed and became an inmate. So, the Baytown Police Department (Officers) is not necessarily at fault until someone can prove otherwise. I do not care who is to blame; only that the facts come to surface. And, it matters that those who caused the harm are held accountable.
Desi

Baytown, TX

#7 Sep 8, 2008
Shaun wrote:
Have you ever been to the Baytown Jail? Some of the jailers are stuck on a power trip. It doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. Last I checked, being drunk wasn't punishable by death. Why wasn't this guy put in the detox cell? That's what usually happens to keep themselves and others out of danger. What happened to the good ol' days when they would rush in and hog tie that person up and drag them out until they calmed down? Why have they resorted to assaulting people?This isn't the first person that has died as a result of Baytown P.D. using excessive force. It sounds to me from what I've seen that B.P.D. has a chip on their shoulder.
Nope....I've never been in jail. Simple....don't break the law and you won't have to worry about going to jail.....ain't so hard is it ?
I was there

Katy, TX

#8 Oct 19, 2008
I am not a police officer or jailer, but I did see it all, and all they did was try to move him to a padded cell. Now I don't enjoy being in the jail, but they just tried to move him when he went crazy and started fighting them.
Desi

Baytown, TX

#9 Oct 21, 2008
Nothing but folks looks for a "free pay day" !
Big O

United States

#10 Oct 22, 2008
Desi wrote:
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Nope....I've never been in jail. Simple....don't break the law and you won't have to worry about going to jail.....ain't so hard is it ?
Desi you are very judgemental. Are you Jesus? Did you die on the cross, just wondering because you seem to think that you are perfect. I have never broken the law either, but anyting can happen. What if you accidentally, God forbid you run over someone? Mind you I said accidentally, but the family of the victim may not see it that way and you can be charged with manslaughter or murder. So don't be so quick to judge others.
BPD Kills

United States

#11 Oct 22, 2008
Check out the newest death in BPD "alleged suicide" by hanging.. trust me, its not as a simple as the cops are making it out be
Desi

Baytown, TX

#12 Oct 23, 2008
You can't amagine some of the low lifes the police have to deal with on a day to day basis.

Judgemental......look at the guy's history, it speaks for itself.
Tuff rule

United States

#13 Apr 19, 2010
I say you mess up in my jail you get a scull cap! 3 chance's.
No Name

Houston, TX

#14 Mar 16, 2011
Desi wrote:
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Nope....I've never been in jail. Simple....don't break the law and you won't have to worry about going to jail.....ain't so hard is it ?
Desi, I use to feel as you do until I was wrongly accused and charged. I have been in the medical profession over twenty years, my father was a police comissioner, I have two daughters that have graduated college, one with a degree in criminal justice. Because of the fact I dated a man that lived in the "wrong" (black)side of town, my auto was seen in the area often. One day I was leaving his home and felt I was being followed. As it turns out, it was an undercover officer that was following me. A police car stopped m shortly there after, I was greatful because I was to the point of feeling in danger. The officers were asking "what did you buy, what ar YOU (I am white) doing over here?" I was placed in a police car in cuffs while they searched my car. As there was nothing in my car, they "found" a narcotic pill in the police car. I was taken to the station and then transfered to Harris County. While the charges were eventually dropped, this is now part of my history. So don't ever think you will never end up in a similar situation. It appears to me that small time Texas law considers segregation in effect, and it is a crime to drive on certain street, or areas, as they see fit.

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