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lakisha augustus

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#103
Sep 8, 2013
 
BRi wrote:
for anyone who wants to go to cenikor or is in the legal system and has the choice of another program please i beg you with all my heart to not waste your time i spent six months there and was treated like a third rate citizen...less than a person i worked many jobs including construction scaffold building and hydro blasting in multiple plants in the baton rouge area i can tell you the one thing i did get from cenikor is the fact that i never want to be subjected to that kind of pain again added to 6 years or serious oxycottin and heroin abuse has kept me sober for the past 9 months since i left. not only do i not suggest going there but i will tell you of one of my experiences there. i might be on a bad path right now if it werent for me and only me if i didnt want to stay sober so badly i might be dead now it just so happens that while i was there there was a guy there faceing 15 years in orleans parsh prison for trafficing heroin. the staff at cenikor was retarded enough to send him to the port of new orleans to work and send him to his JP and OP court dates unsupervised and what happened???? you guesed it he brought back a substantial quantity of heroin and caused many to relapse a girl even traded her body to him for dope (this girl had children and now there lives are surely worse than before) if not for me (only a 4 month member at the time) and the efforts of an older member "ratting" on the guy he would still be at large and cenikor might be a heroin den now. i have talked to a resident when i went for my court in Baton rouge recently and the program is collapseing. the only thing thats keeping it afloat is the judges still stipulating addicts to the program. it only helps a small...very small number of clients. most residents that are stipulated just skate by knowing that it is better than being incarcerated. but most realize later that laying down in prison is better that writing a 1500 word essay nearly every night work 12 hours a day cleaning the whole facility every night,(i averaged 3-5 hours of sleep and i was working a dangerous job on top of it and work 7 12's for a period of time while attending cenikor) i hardly ever got time to think i missed multiple counseling sessions due to being out of the facility working to pay their bills while my wife was at home struggling to pay our bills alone.
so all in all a terrible experience lucky for me the judge didnt stipulate me there my family did and once they realized the kind of "treatment" cenikor offered it didnt take much to convince them that it was not for me...
i thank god every day for cenikor though. i learned to appreciate the small things but i still dont reccomend it to anyone. any questions? write me ill be happy to answer any questions or debate any concerns you have
loed mi husband jus went on thursday,i dont like the orogram at all jus by reading ur experience then how they NOTT LET U CALL HOME??TO ME ITS WORST THEN JAIL.AT LEAST M JAIL U CAN CALL HOME.AN GET VISITS LORDDDDD...ION NO WAT TO DO R SAY???WE TRY GETTN HIM N AS OUTPATIENT.ION NO HOW THAT WORKS
CeniKANT

Deer Park, TX

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#104
Sep 8, 2013
 
cenikor does not have an outpatient program. contact the Salvation Army
lakisha augustus

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#105
Sep 15, 2013
 
ok,my husband went to cenikor the beginn of this month but he goes back to court he say they sent him a court day for nov 20th for wat reason u think hes goin back if tha judge has already gav him ho long to do..I no not to jus c how hes doin??I BEEN THINKN THEY WIL REALEASE HIM...CAN SUMOME TALK TO ME THATS BEEN N THIS PROGRAM..I THINK THAT WOULD B CRAZY JUS TO GET HIM BACK N JUS TO SEE HOW HEZ DOIN....
lakisha augustus

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#106
Sep 15, 2013
 
CeniKANT wrote:
cenikor does not have an outpatient program. contact the Salvation Army
.....REPLYYY....WELL IM N BATON ROUGE AN THAT ONE DOES....THANK U ANYWAY....LOL
lakisha augustus

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#107
Sep 15, 2013
 
Chad B wrote:
I heard about the CO Cenikor and it was unbelievable what i was told. I have also seen guys with alot of time leave Cenikor and take thir chances. The Baton Rouge facility is not a bad place at all. The staff truely cares but its still up to you to make that decision to change. I wouldnt go back but am glad i had the experience to learn from.
Reply........Hi im writing u i see youve been to the baton rouge facility well my hubby went at the begginn of this month september an he say the judge sent him a court dae for nov 20,now im wondern will they realease him on that day im like y would they want him back to court if they gave him the cenikor tym already...Sumone please talk....inquiren wanna no....thanks
lakisha augustus

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#108
Sep 15, 2013
 
an who is CENICANT???
lakisha augustus

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#109
Sep 15, 2013
 
lakisha augustus wrote:
<quoted text>.....REPLYYY....WELL IM N BATON ROUGE AN THAT ONE DOES....THANK U ANYWAY....LOL
Who r u anyway caniKANT???Now is not tha tym......
CeniKant

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#110
Sep 16, 2013
 
It doesn't matter who I am
I know much about the Cenikor in Deer Park....
lakisha augustus

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#111
Sep 16, 2013
 
CeniKant wrote:
It doesn't matter who I am
I know much about the Cenikor in Deer Park....
.......Dats goodd CeniKant....
KayGee

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#112
Dec 3, 2013
 
Kyle G wrote:
<quoted text> I am currently involved in the admission process of the Fort Worth facility for long term inpatient and reading some of the comments on here has me a little concerned...I've alredy done prison time so I am accustomed to living situations most would not have experience with but I'm not trying to voluntarily sign up for hell on earth, however I am a hard worker with a strong desire to change. My main concern would be that there is enough to eat, suitable living environment,and career opportunities that are similar to what their website claims they offer
Kyle, I am in the exact situation right now, looking at the Ft Worth program, from Longview. Please reply if you're still around, or maybe a family member could tell me how it's going for you?
CeniKant

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#113
Dec 9, 2013
 
KayGee wrote:
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Kyle, I am in the exact situation right now, looking at the Ft Worth program, from Longview. Please reply if you're still around, or maybe a family member could tell me how it's going for you?
Cenikor has great programs, at least for the public to see and contribute $, the sad fact is that for all their successes, they have a very poor graduation rate. More than a 100 people will check in for every ONE that actually graduates and, of the ones that graduate, 2 of every 5 will use again within 5 years.
They are a "non-profit".... Lots of money comes in, but very little goes directly to the care of the residents.
Residents have little or no rights. It's run much like a minimum security jail, except the inmates are in power. Much like in a jail, the "stronger" inmates are in charge and they run things - legal or not.
OHB

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#115
May 22, 2014
 
My brother was a recent resident of Cenikor. He was court order to the Ft. Worth facility from Ohio. Everything seemed to be going well. He looked and sounded great. We thought the program was a life saver. He worked constantly but for him keeping busy was a good thing. After 8 months of no contact with any family members my 60 year old mother decided to take his 11 and 8 year old children to visit from Ohio. My mother contacted the facility weeks in advance to make sure that they would not play tricks and that he would be able to have two days to visit with his kids like they said he could. The facility director ensured my mother that they absolutely would not mess with his kids and that he can have the two days. This changed once they arrived from Ohio. The first night went well but the "employees" must have decided that he was too happy. Upon his return on the second day his belongings were packed and he was removed from the program. He never talked about leaving the program and returned both on time. The director my mother spoke to lied and will some day be judged for his corruption. My theory is that my brother never cracked because the program was too hard and the directors could not break him emotionally and mentally so they removed him. Either that or since they receive a large chunk of change for every new person they bring in that they needed to make room. It's a shame since the premiss of the program makes sense but unfortunately professionally trained people do not run the facility. Organizations like this should receive funding based on success rate not how many people they treat. By success I mean how many people stay sober after completion not how many "graduate" 5% graduation rate sounds like a failure to me. Unfortunately our tax dollars go to the pockets of this corrupt organization that preys on the vulnerable and their families.
Old Dog

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#116
May 23, 2014
 
As a former probation officer I have dealt with the facility in Deer Park several times. The idea seems to be a good one, but anytime you place the inmates in charge of other inmates you're going to have problems.
The staff of this (and other similar facilities) are more interested in promoting their facilities and raising money and donations. They tell the public that they have a very high rate of success with their graduates (in other words, very few go back to drugs), but they don't tell the public that less than 3% actually graduate from the program.
It is a revolving door and the more people they intake the more money they make.
If I had someone in need ask me about this place, I would tell them not to go.
Graduate Former Staff

Fort Worth, TX

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#117
Jun 13, 2014
 
nobull wrote:
My son went in to Cenikor on his own two weeks ago. I was told that it would be 30 days before I could get a phone call and 90 days before I can see him. I don't like the not knowing and reading all of this has me concerned. I am not worried about the work because he is a hard worker and I believe it is better for them to stay busy than just watching TV and eating like most 30 day rehabs. We adults in the real world work long days for our food and a roof over our heads. I am concerned about the mental aspect. I would like to hear from someone that has benefited from the program to put my mind at ease.
I graduated the Cenikor Program in 1991 it was one of the toughest programs in the US at the time. I was ans still am grateful for the things I learned while there. I then worked for the Foundation for seven years and was the fundraising manger for two years and moved into the position of MIS Director. I was fired to cover my bosses butt. I still remain in contact with the former president of Cenikor who was and is one of the most honest men I have ever known. Cenikor has changed quite a bit and has become more concerned with money than treatment. When I was there, they did not accept Insurance and although there were time that were tough, there were valid reasons for them. I am hearing lots of stories about the program now. It is true that one of the Regional Vice Presidents was fired for theft. I knew him well, still do. We arent close, but I know him. The new President Bill Bailey is very concerned with making it into a profit center and that is not at all why the program was started. It was started by a group of prison inmates in the Canyon City Prison in Colorado so they could battle their common enemy "DRUGS" It progressed over the years to a small home in Lakewood Colorado and then to a building where they began a program in earnest to help other hard core addicts help themselves. It was never designed to be easy, quite the opposite it is difficult by design. The theory was that if you can make it through intense behavior modification and remain clean and sober, you had a chance to make it in the world on your own. You are held to a ridiculously high standard so that when you leave you will have the confidence in yourself to make it without stumbling. It began as a Lifetime program and was shortened to 2 and a half to 3 years in the seventies I think it was. I entered in 1988 and Graduated in 1991., I believe Cenikor now could survive and be good for the residents, but it needs some severe overhauling, and a staff that cares about what they are doing. There are still some there, few, but some.
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#118
Jun 13, 2014
 
andriel wrote:
<quoted text> yes it is the program!! Cenikor is very CROOKED!! ASS BACKWARDS!! hes probably being brain washed and gulit tripped into leaving his family alone!! They want to use him like a machine to make the big wigs money. The government provide the bulifings and we all had to hustle up money for who the hell knows?! The company that gets the money is the government and the judges that think soliloquy highly of a program that has such low success rates!! Wake up people. Do you really think if you give 2-300 criminals control of buildings vehicles phones and medical care that they arnt gonna pull the same tucked up shit. That sent them down that. Road to begin with!! Ya, again I say WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
It seems to me that you are a very unhappy splitee, I know that Eugene wasn't the nicest guy in the world but there was no abuse going on and They Closed the facility after they fired him for sleeping with a former resident. He has since passed away. I was never aware of any abuse, it WAS a VERY HARD program, it is supposed to be, it is designed for hard core addicts and convicts not kids who got caught smoking pot in the back yard. They are perverting the whole reason the program was begun and have fallen victim to the search for the dollar

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