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andriel

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I was a resident at cenikor. I worked at many differant places while I was there. Never once signed anything for employment or ever saw a paycheck. They took all our money. Very weird I worked at herdhfeild printing press in montbello or Denver and I tried to go get a job there a few years later down the road and they said they had no records of me ever working there.???? Hmmmm cenikor is the mort asa backwards program!!!! Runnnnnn
andriel

Pueblo, CO

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#84
Feb 4, 2013
 
Cenikorformerjohn wrote:
Cenikor is a nightmare , work rehabilitation facility. yes they beg for money , yes the "clients" steal it , yes cenikor makes a lot of money. Even while people there are trapped and have to beg for medical attention........i have many stories of their corruption.
are you from the denver cenikor ??
andriel

Pueblo, CO

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#85
Feb 4, 2013
 
And cooking method in the thrift store that was ran by cenikor?? Ya its agreaaaaat program!!
andriel

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<quoted text> The program should encourage family involvement. You are not treating the entire person if he is unable to deal with issues at hand. Old problems must be dealt with and forgiveness of ones wrong doings. So you go through treatment for 18 months and don't tell your wife you do want to be bothered with her or the issues you left behind, sounds like someone who is masking their problems. Who's to say the program does not work. I do know that my husband blamed everyone else for his problems and avoiding the problems will not make them go away. They will be there staring him in the face when he get out or he will carry those problems into another relationship, resolving into drug or alcohol abuse all over again. I pray for him and ya'll daily.
yes it is the program!! Cenikor is very CROOKED!! ASS BACKWARDS!! hes probably being brain washed and gulit tripped into leaving his family alone!! They want to use him like a machine to make the big wigs money. The government provide the bulifings and we all had to hustle up money for who the hell knows?! The company that gets the money is the government and the judges that think soliloquy highly of a program that has such low success rates!! Wake up people. Do you really think if you give 2-300 criminals control of buildings vehicles phones and medical care that they arnt gonna pull the same tucked up shit. That sent them down that. Road to begin with!! Ya, again I say WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
PlaceforChange

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#87
Feb 6, 2013
 
Like any business you must evolve and change to keep up with changing regulations, funding sources, etc. Cenikor has made leaps and bounds towards providing quality treatment through their family of services. In the past few years they have added more programs and received CARF accreditation. Check out their wikipedia page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenikor_Foundati... ,
or their website www.cenikor.org . There is lots of information about their various programs. Check out their video testimonials from individuals who have been through the programs. Read their annual report or newsletters and see what they are doing to provide quality treatment to those seeking a life free of substance abuse.
DPDad

Deer Park, TX

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#88
Feb 6, 2013
 
PlaceforChange wrote:
Like any business you must evolve and change to keep up with changing regulations, funding sources, etc. Cenikor has made leaps and bounds towards providing quality treatment through their family of services. In the past few years they have added more programs and received CARF accreditation. Check out their wikipedia page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenikor_Foundati... ,
or their website www.cenikor.org . There is lots of information about their various programs. Check out their video testimonials from individuals who have been through the programs. Read their annual report or newsletters and see what they are doing to provide quality treatment to those seeking a life free of substance abuse.
Their website looks nice and the write ups sound good, the truth is that they have a very poor success rate and time after time they hve problems such as missing money, sexual relations between staff and residents, working residents that are not covered under workers comp, money under the table, etc.
Most judges will not send people to Cenikor because of their very poor track record.
There are many people benefitting from Cenikor, but it is NOT the residents.
andriel

Pueblo, CO

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Feb 6, 2013
 
DPDad wrote:
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Their website looks nice and the write ups sound good, the truth is that they have a very poor success rate and time after time they hve problems such as missing money, sexual relations between staff and residents, working residents that are not covered under workers comp, money under the table, etc.
Most judges will not send people to Cenikor because of their very poor track record.
There are many people benefitting from Cenikor, but it is NOT the residents.
you are very right about that. I had no treatment whatsoever. Sitting in groups bragging and war storying is no treatment. And as soon as the men thought you were in the family and you would be cool they all try to make you sleep with them. And someone is deffinatley banking the money. We brought in way more than the cost of living for the men's house and the woman's house.
Chad B

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#90
Feb 7, 2013
 
Cenikor is and was a crazy experience but if you us the tools and core values you learn their you will make better decisions and your thought process will be on point! Yes i seen alot of crazy shit but i met some great people and learned alot about myself. I wouldnt wish Cenikor on anyone, but if it your only option its not a death pentalty. Its what you make of it and a great place to change your life for the better!
andriel

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Chad B wrote:
Cenikor is and was a crazy experience but if you us the tools and core values you learn their you will make better decisions and your thought process will be on point! Yes i seen alot of crazy shit but i met some great people and learned alot about myself. I wouldnt wish Cenikor on anyone, but if it your only option its not a death pentalty. Its what you make of it and a great place to change your life for the better!
The facility you went to might have been differant!! The one I went to the staff ghat ran the place was cooking meth in the thrift store. So it isn't always what you make it so.stiles your given a shifty situation and you have to weigh out your options. I was 18 and wasn't going to let all those fucken cons brain wash me and pressure me into being their bitch, I chose to go back and do my time. I snuck out in the middle of the night.
Chad B

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#92
Feb 7, 2013
 
I heard about the CO Cenikor and it was unbelievable what i was told. I have also seen guys with alot of time leave Cenikor and take thir chances. The Baton Rouge facility is not a bad place at all. The staff truely cares but its still up to you to make that decision to change. I wouldnt go back but am glad i had the experience to learn from.
DPDad

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The Deer Park location has had a history of trouble. Many (paid) staff members have been fired or given the opportunity to resign because they've been cought with their "pants down".
Having a big political figure, the former Constable, be the face of Cenikor kept the press and the business community from asking too many questions.
Many of the local police departments are glad to get rid of the drug users in the area and help the staff when they tell the residents that if they cause any trouble (such as complain or tell anyone what eally goes on) they'll have the police come pick them up.
andriel

Pueblo, CO

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#94
Feb 7, 2013
 
Ya it is all up to you in the end. I was addicted for 10 years. I adapt well to my surroundings and I wasn't gonna adapt to that crap. I'm sober now for 5 years. Nothing would make me go back to the many pits off hell in Denver that I was in. Life is too good now. I never did have a felony so I'm a CNA now, going to school now doing my prerequisites for the nursing program. So I made it without rehab. I quit on my own!!
andriel

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#95
Feb 7, 2013
 
Its all in your head anyway, some say only the strong survive. I am that 1%
andriel

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There is a place in my heart that will always hurt for those who are still in the places that I have been. How Scary lonely cold and sad. For I'm sure things only get worse with time. Never go back I say. Run like the wind from it all and refuse to look back. I couldn't imagine what life would have been like with a felony. There were angels watching over me and I thank God I made it to today. There is no doing it again. You don't go to the places ive been a second time and expect to get away again...
Split-Tee

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#97
Apr 24, 2013
 
I was at the one in ft. worth and they are real big on filing for food stamps for people under they're care, but most of the food served at the facility can be upwards of 3 months expired. I unloaded it, I know. Mostly felons. Visitors are treated like "clients". I left because after a month of no write ups, they decided that mouthing inaudibly) "I love you" to my wife after not seeing her a month was acceptable cause for a trip to a "time out chair." It's a spin on a labor camp is what it really is. Some are lucky enough to make it. Some are smart enough to leave.
andriel

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Apr 25, 2013
 
Split-Tee wrote:
I was at the one in ft. worth and they are real big on filing for food stamps for people under they're care, but most of the food served at the facility can be upwards of 3 months expired. I unloaded it, I know. Mostly felons. Visitors are treated like "clients". I left because after a month of no write ups, they decided that mouthing inaudibly) "I love you" to my wife after not seeing her a month was acceptable cause for a trip to a "time out chair." It's a spin on a labor camp is what it really is. Some are lucky enough to make it. Some are smart enough to leave.
ya I left. Brainwash central
Tracy Dudley

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#99
Jun 1, 2013
 
I am a Cenikor graduate. Hands down Cenikor is the BEST program out there.

I was there 3 years and left a stable, independent sober person and still am.

It is impossible to make accurate assumptions about the program as an outsider who has never walked on the path of Cenikor.

The program teaches independence and they purpose to teach people to stand on their own two feet - that's why the contact is limited in the beginning.

Cenikor rocks and NO PROGRAM can compare.

Cenikor Graduate,
Tracy D.
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Deer Park, TX

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Jun 1, 2013
 
Tracy Dudley wrote:
I am a Cenikor graduate. Hands down Cenikor is the BEST program out there.
I was there 3 years and left a stable, independent sober person and still am.
It is impossible to make accurate assumptions about the program as an outsider who has never walked on the path of Cenikor.
The program teaches independence and they purpose to teach people to stand on their own two feet - that's why the contact is limited in the beginning.
Cenikor rocks and NO PROGRAM can compare.
Cenikor Graduate,
Tracy D.
I did have a family member at the DP facility. Seeing how poorly he was treated I decided to look into it further. First I was denied any access, then I had a visit from someone representing a former constable, then my name was slandered, and finally I was made aware that I was being investigated.
Plain and simple, Cenikor is a money machine.
While they collect grants, etc and are a "non-profit" operation, all their residents are required to receive food stamps, etc.
They have numerous paid staff and consultants who make plenty of money - paid from the wages earned by the residents at their many and often dangerous jobs.
From the Deer Park facility, residents are sent to the pallet company (one block away) where they are required to work without safety equipment, they are considered "contract labor" so no workers-comp or any training is provided. Many of these people work in the sun for 10 to 12 hours a day...
It is worse for the residents who are sent to clean tanks.... These are the big refinery tanks where they often work inside without adequate ventilation or safety lines. They may be required to sandblast these tanks or climb atop of them without any safety training (or equipment). They work for subcontractors of the refineries and the Cenikor residents are subcontractors of the subcontractors - all without pay.
In my opinion, Cenikor offers nothing other than what all the other rehab places offer, but what they offer and what they provide is worlds apart.
The sad truth is that we all would rather lock away the drug users and criminals, so when a place offers to lock them up AND makes it look like we're helping them, we jump at the opportunity to feel good about what we are doing to "help"
Devon P

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#101
Jun 24, 2013
 
Okay so I just read every post here and im not going to lie im worried. Im thinking of going into the one in Ft. Worth. It would be voluntary. Call me crazy but I am at the point that I am willing to do anything to get my life back. I can put up with a lot. I feel that if I do go in, that there is some sense of security in the fact that I could leave if I ever felt mistreated to such an extent. It is not my only option but I feel I do need to put myself though something intensive to help change my way of thinking completely. Im 23 and just got out of my third 30 day impatient treatment. Any other options aside from Cenikor will be looked at also lol.
Kyle G

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Jun 27, 2013
 
Devon P wrote:
Okay so I just read every post here and im not going to lie im worried. Im thinking of going into the one in Ft. Worth. It would be voluntary. Call me crazy but I am at the point that I am willing to do anything to get my life back. I can put up with a lot. I feel that if I do go in, that there is some sense of security in the fact that I could leave if I ever felt mistreated to such an extent. It is not my only option but I feel I do need to put myself though something intensive to help change my way of thinking completely. Im 23 and just got out of my third 30 day impatient treatment. Any other options aside from Cenikor will be looked at also lol.
I am currently involved in the admission process of the Fort Worth facility for long term inpatient and reading some of the comments on here has me a little concerned...I've alredy done prison time so I am accustomed to living situations most would not have experience with but I'm not trying to voluntarily sign up for hell on earth, however I am a hard worker with a strong desire to change. My main concern would be that there is enough to eat, suitable living environment,and career opportunities that are similar to what their website claims they offer

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