CenCen

Houston, TX

#42 May 1, 2012
help wrote:
Awesome. Yea me and his family haven't heard one word from him and im afraid this place ia going to turn him into someone hes not, not in a good way. Its been a month and ive sent 4 letters and haven't received anything. His counselor gave me his card and at the time stated if I needed anything or had any questions call at anytime. I did so, and he first told me my fiance wasn't even there! Then said well haven't you thought hes just trying to think about himself for once and pretty much ended the call. the counselor has told me numerous times that he can send letters now anytime. I think its bull, because I know of he was allowed to I would have gotten SOME kind of word from him. I don't know how to get in contact with him to see if he wants to try a different rehab, I feel like they've roped him in and won't let go. I don't know what to do at this point. Any ideas?
I know you're going through lots of stress and pain trying to figure out what is going on inside Cenikor.
There are lots of negative people - see response from idiots like YoungFP!~~~~.
Most likely he is still there and he wont be allowed to write for the first month, no matter what they have told you. After the month is over and he has completed the preliminary steps, he "may" be allowed to write. Keep in mind that any actual letters you receive will have been read and "corrected" before being re-writte and mailed. This will also affect the letters you send him. Negative letters are likely to never be received.
The basics of the program are not bad. The core addresses the changes andabstenance required to break off from addiction.
After the preliminary stages he will be assigned a job. Maybe inhouse (cleaning, cooking, gardening, etc) or be sent to a job. Most likely, if he is in good shape and can work, he will be cleaning storage tanks in one of the plants or working at Pasadena Pallet. He wont get any benefit (other than the "treatment")from this, but -as long as he is making Cenikor money, he will be able to remain in the program.
The program lasts 18 months. As I understand it, in 2011, less than 1% successfully graduated from the program, however 6 to 8 months in the program = to 6 to 8 months away from drugs and makes it easier to stay clean afterwards.
If you are trully worried you can contact the police department and tell them of your concern. I've spoken with several Deer Park and Pasadena officers who have shared their concerns regarding the Cenikor management. Maybe they can verify that he is OK.
By the way, if you are not married, Cenikor does not consider you family.\Best of luck
Interested

Mcalester, OK

#43 May 4, 2012
Failure and success is what you make of it. You should never judge an experience off of someone else's. Be individual, be strong and stay focused and you can make it. Recovery gives back only what you put in to it. Those that are complaining about the funds or money or the work, a 90 day program usually runs over 15 thousand. What are you paying for 18+months, less than $400? People amaze me! Get up at 5am and work until 5pm and be grateful your alive to do it. Stop complaining. Most people would kill for the opportunity.
First-Hand-Victi m

United States

#45 Jun 17, 2012
Please keep telling it! Keep sharing how horrid Cenikor, but everyone needs to realize that the evil comes from the top. As soon as ethical, moral and honest people are hired Cenikor starts bullying and harassing them until they break! The TC program does work as long as those overseeing it are not corrupt. pray for God to bring this evil to light.
First-Hand-Victi m

United States

#46 Jun 17, 2012
CenCen wrote:
I'm looking to contact anyone that is a former staff member or resident of Cenikor that can tell me about their fundraising activities and how moneys are accounted for.
Please contact TXHOU @ hotmail. com
Thank you
.
I would like to find anyone who has suffered discrimination, harassment or any form of abuse as an employee of Cenikor
Cenikor Graduate

Fresno, CA

#47 Jun 18, 2012
First-Hand-Victim wrote:
<quoted text>.
I would like to find anyone who has suffered discrimination, harassment or any form of abuse as an employee of Cenikor
I am a graduate of the Fort Worth Facility. First and foremost, the Cenikor program is REALLY difficult! That being said, the program works. I graduated in 2010 and am happy to say I am celebrating four years sober today. Most of my fellow graduates are still sober as well. The best part of the program is that it is peer driven. The program is by no means perfect, and addicts will be addicts, but those who truly want a different outlook on life will find something there. To this day I still do not know what it was that clicked in my brain while I was there, but it worked. If you want a true and accurate account of the day to day life inside the facility feel free to email me. I will give you honest answers about the good and bad about the program.
Chris C.
rockerseatrocks@gmail.com
Well

Pasadena, TX

#48 Jun 19, 2012
Finally, someone who has been there and reveals the truth about the program.If the person going does not really want change, It's not going to happen. Good job grad!
Cenikor Graduate wrote:
<quoted text>
I am a graduate of the Fort Worth Facility. First and foremost, the Cenikor program is REALLY difficult! That being said, the program works. I graduated in 2010 and am happy to say I am celebrating four years sober today. Most of my fellow graduates are still sober as well. The best part of the program is that it is peer driven. The program is by no means perfect, and addicts will be addicts, but those who truly want a different outlook on life will find something there. To this day I still do not know what it was that clicked in my brain while I was there, but it worked. If you want a true and accurate account of the day to day life inside the facility feel free to email me. I will give you honest answers about the good and bad about the program.
Chris C.
rockerseatrocks@gmail.com
john

Splendora, TX

#49 Aug 10, 2012
i wouldd gladl give you any info. i just ot out. the place is a fraud and in no way a on profit. they ake all kinds ofmoney.ill tell ou everything
Iwasthere

Sheridan, WY

#50 Aug 22, 2012
Concerned wrote:
Maybe ya'll need to do a little more investigating before making all these incorrect comments until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes don't talk about it. These residents work for there expense and the money doesn't go directly to them it goes throught the company. And whoever said the turnover rate is high well of course you idiot that is at any rehabilitation center. Not everyone wants to stop the addiction so they leave. Some of your comments are absolutely stupid! Get a life!
I was there and jail is better. Finds disappearing, everyday! Everyone does it there. And it is $1000 per week for some cons/patients. The staff are much worse.
nobull

Spring, TX

#51 Aug 27, 2012
My son went in to Cenikor on his own two weeks ago. I was told that it would be 30 days before I could get a phone call and 90 days before I can see him. I don't like the not knowing and reading all of this has me concerned. I am not worried about the work because he is a hard worker and I believe it is better for them to stay busy than just watching TV and eating like most 30 day rehabs. We adults in the real world work long days for our food and a roof over our heads. I am concerned about the mental aspect. I would like to hear from someone that has benefited from the program to put my mind at ease.
JustDad

Deer Park, TX

#52 Aug 27, 2012
nobull wrote:
My son went in to Cenikor on his own two weeks ago. I was told that it would be 30 days before I could get a phone call and 90 days before I can see him. I don't like the not knowing and reading all of this has me concerned. I am not worried about the work because he is a hard worker and I believe it is better for them to stay busy than just watching TV and eating like most 30 day rehabs. We adults in the real world work long days for our food and a roof over our heads. I am concerned about the mental aspect. I would like to hear from someone that has benefited from the program to put my mind at ease.
My son is an addict and, 2 years ago he was allowed to go to Cenikor (from jail) by the judge. This judge was very much against sending my son to Cenikor as she repeatedly said she had never seen anything positive happen there, but she gave my son the option of a 6 month stay at a State rehab or the 18 months Cenikor was offering.
We wanted our son to get better and the State program was basically jail with drug counseling. He agreed and checked in to Centikor.
I saw him at check-in time in June, and I didn’t see him again until I was driving by a drug store in Pasadena and he and another Cenikor resident were collecting money for Cenikor…. Cash. No checks & balances.
My son had lost lots of weight and now spoke more like a gang-banger than. His eyes had circles under them and he looked much older than his years,
He told me that each time he thought he would be allowed to call, something would happen. The whole “house” would be in trouble and nobody would be allowed to call, etc.
He had started writing and we were getting about a letter a month. Short letters that didn’t say anything, other that “he was doing great”. He said all letters that we wrote would be read by several people and sometimes would not be approved. His letters were also read and “approved”, then he had to beg for envelopes and stamps.
He was working 10 hour shifts cleaning tanks at a refinery. No safety equipment. No training. He would then get back to “the house”(Cenikor about 6 PM and have chores to do, meetings to attend, then they had to clean up the kitchen. Often not getting to bed until midnight, only to be up at 5 AM to do more chores before heading out.
Much of the program was indoctrination.
While he was at Cenikor, the intake person was terminated. I learned (later) that she was stealing from what people brought.
The main counselor, a man with a history of crime and drug use, would regularly threaten the residents with jail, even threatening to make up charges and call the police. I understand that he was recently terminated.
Some counselors have allegedly maintained sexual relationships with some of the female residents.
We next saw our son at Christmas for dinner at the facility. We were told we needed to contribute $ to help defray the cost and we did our share and more. We watched many of the residents eat as iuf this was their first meal in weeks.
We were not allowed to have contact with our son for new years, birthdays, family events, etc.
My son was discharged in March of last year. He failed to report that one of the supervisors brought contraband into the facility for another supervisor. As failing to report this was an infraction, he was kicked out.
When we picked him up we took him to the emergency room as he had a cracked bone in his wrist and an open wound that would not heal.
Two weeks latter we went before the judge and she said “I told you so!”. He went to the Sate rehab and 6 months latter he was home. He has been home and clean since November of last year. We hope he will stay clean, but we take it one day at a time.
We have learned that there are no guaranteed cures and that for our son to stay clean, it is up to him and God. All we can do is love him.
nobull

Spring, TX

#53 Aug 28, 2012
Thank you for the information. This does not make me feel any better and now I am very concerned for my son. He is a good person, he was in school for a Bio-Tech major and not doing too bad but the Vodka got the better of him. He has tried several times to quit but the longest was a month and he was right back at it. Cenikor was recommended to me by one of those toll free call lines for help. I was told that it would take 2 weeks to get into a state funded rehab and he needed to go somewhere right away and that is why I chose Cenikor. Does anybody know if this place has been investigated and if so by whom?
JustDad

Deer Park, TX

#54 Aug 28, 2012
Its not likely to be investigated since the CEO is a very long time Constable in Harris County and they have many other political/elected officials in their board.
Its a cash cow AND gets rid of that unwanted element.... At least that's how it seems.
JustDad

Deer Park, TX

#55 Aug 28, 2012
By the way, they get them in with the "18 months", but they change it to 22 months to 26 months after the resident completes the "90 day evaluation period".
jack

United States

#56 Sep 6, 2012
Cinekor 2 me is a money hungry corp.That ur recovery is not #1 its can u work n make there ceo a million dollars
russell

Houston, TX

#57 Sep 10, 2012
CenCen wrote:
I'm looking to contact anyone that is a former staff member or resident of Cenikor that can tell me about their fundraising activities and how moneys are accounted for.
Please contact TXHOU @ hotmail. com
Thank you
i wus a resident for two months. My email is rrsanchez00@gmail.com
worried

Portsmouth, NH

#58 Sep 10, 2012
Our son is at Cenikor. We are very worried that the program includes intensive long hours of labor and not much if any treatment. For those as ignorant as we once were, addiction can affect any of us from the wealthy to the poor, the family with strong values to the dysfunctional. Don't be stupid. We are worried we selected the wrong place for our son. He has financially drained us and we are searching for another facility that can offer a honest work program balanced with the treatment he needs to regain his life back. He was brought up in a good religious family and got hooked on drugs. Does anyone have any recommendations? Please keep us in your prayers…
john c

Splendora, TX

#59 Sep 14, 2012
russell wrote:
<quoted text> i wus a resident for two months. My email is rrsanchez00@gmail.com
when were you there.i think i was there with you
john c

Splendora, TX

#60 Sep 14, 2012
worried wrote:
Our son is at Cenikor. We are very worried that the program includes intensive long hours of labor and not much if any treatment. For those as ignorant as we once were, addiction can affect any of us from the wealthy to the poor, the family with strong values to the dysfunctional. Don't be stupid. We are worried we selected the wrong place for our son. He has financially drained us and we are searching for another facility that can offer a honest work program balanced with the treatment he needs to regain his life back. He was brought up in a good religious family and got hooked on drugs. Does anyone have any recommendations? Please keep us in your prayers…
i pray for you,but cenikor is the wrong place. get him out of there. i did a long 6 months there.
cjb

Spring, TX

#61 Sep 26, 2012
My son has been at Cenikor for 6 Weeks. I have talked to his counselor a couple of times. She seemed very nice and concerned about my sons recovery. I talked to my son last night and said he was fine. He likes his counselor and is doing well, working the program she has outlined for him. He is working about 60 hours a week outside the facility but if anybody thinks this is wrong, think again. It cost alot to house and feed these people and it also keeps their mind and body busy. Also, they do not pay for cigarettes. He says he is eating well and has actually put on weight. I am sure there is alot that goes on that he has not been able to tell me but I pray everyday this will work. His counselor and I have agreed that he needs a couple more weeks and then he can come home. I am wondering if some of the comments you are hearing are from court ordered residents that went in not wanting to change or do anything to help pay for their recovery. Life is hard why should Rehab be easy. So if you have a loved one in there, hang tough, I almost went and got him after reading all this the first week but that would have been a big mistake. One more thing before I end, just because someone struggles with addiction and alcohol does not make them a low life or bad person, just someone who is lost and needs help.
Andrea

Houston, TX

#62 Sep 26, 2012
cjb wrote:
My son has been at Cenikor for 6 Weeks. I have talked to his counselor a couple of times. She seemed very nice and concerned about my sons recovery. I talked to my son last night and said he was fine. He likes his counselor and is doing well, working the program she has outlined for him. He is working about 60 hours a week outside the facility but if anybody thinks this is wrong, think again. It cost alot to house and feed these people and it also keeps their mind and body busy. Also, they do not pay for cigarettes. He says he is eating well and has actually put on weight. I am sure there is alot that goes on that he has not been able to tell me but I pray everyday this will work. His counselor and I have agreed that he needs a couple more weeks and then he can come home. I am wondering if some of the comments you are hearing are from court ordered residents that went in not wanting to change or do anything to help pay for their recovery. Life is hard why should Rehab be easy. So if you have a loved one in there, hang tough, I almost went and got him after reading all this the first week but that would have been a big mistake. One more thing before I end, just because someone struggles with addiction and alcohol does not make them a low life or bad person, just someone who is lost and needs help.
Nicely put, praying your son recovers.

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