Bayshore Elementary siting

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La Porte, TX

#1 Dec 23, 2013
A Houston Chronicle article on Sunday concerned public schools located very near highways and mentions Bayshore Elementary School. The air pollution from road traffic (especially diesel powered trucks) has been demonstrated to increase childhood illnesses such as asthma and harm childhood brain function. The La Porte ISD superintendent and school board in 2008-2009 were grossly negligent to locate this school near the highway when much better options, such as the existing school site, were available. Additionally, the danger of catastrophic accidents on the road involving hazardous cargo continues to be demonstrated along Hwy 146.
Get over it

Pasadena, TX

#2 Dec 23, 2013
Bayshore Elementary is one of the best schools in the district.

Where would you have had it sited? Clear lake?

The prevailing winds put the diesel particulates from trucks on 146 exhaust away from Bayshore Elementary most of the time. However, having said that, no place in La Porte or Shoreacres is immune from diesel "dust",(PM-2.5) from older trucks. Newer ones have exhaust cleaning systems, mandated by law, that are less polluting.

To do better would require federal regulation by house majority Republicans to pass, but they are not willing to do that.

Bottom line is that there is no place in LP that is immure from particulate pollution, and it is getting worse. It you live here, it is a fact of life. I would recommend that you move..

Putting BSE back in the flood zone where it was before IKE puts it closer to the really bad exhaust from ships, which is 70,000 times that of a land based diesel truck source. Also old BSE was riddled with "mold" spores. Much worse for the kiddos.

The LP/Shoreacres kids are the winners with a new $21 million school that seems to fit them just fine, and they are doing quite well. Thanks LPISD for what you did for us.
Lucy

La Porte, TX

#3 Dec 23, 2013
Bayshore is a good school. It would have been to the children's benefit if it had been located elsewhere. There are many studies showing this but our politicians don't do anything to ensure their safety.

It is true that anywhere in La Porte is not immune from some sort ofpollution. We have ship soot, factory soot and who knows what else. That doesn't mean that we should ignore the diesel exhaust put out by trucks. This is known to be harmful to children especially close to roadways.

Many parents protested the building of Bayshore at this location on that very point. As a result a study was done that erroneously underestimated the truck volume on the road. The district ignored future estimates done by the county of more than 15000 trucks a day on 146.

We should do better for our children.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#4 Dec 23, 2013
Yes!. This is a Fantastic opportunity to issue bonds for BILLIONS of dollars to build new school buildings that we don't need, all because of a phony study, in the name of the "children".

Get back in there and do your homework!

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#5 Dec 23, 2013
Lucy wrote:
Bayshore is a good school. It would have been to the children's benefit if it had been located elsewhere. There are many studies showing this but our politicians don't do anything to ensure their safety.

It is true that anywhere in La Porte is not immune from some sort ofpollution. We have ship soot, factory soot and who knows what else. That doesn't mean that we should ignore the diesel exhaust put out by trucks. This is known to be harmful to children especially close to roadways.

Many parents protested the building of Bayshore at this location on that very point. As a result a study was done that erroneously underestimated the truck volume on the road. The district ignored future estimates done by the county of more than 15000 trucks a day on 146.

We should do better for our children.
I've got an idea!!

Lets build more chemical plants in La Porte!!!

That way we can ensure that EVERYONE in the future will have cancer!!!

Hey... it puts food on the table!!!

Screw tomorrow!!

We'll all get Obamacare to treat us!!!
Lucy

La Porte, TX

#6 Dec 23, 2013
Elaine wrote:
Yes!. This is a Fantastic opportunity to issue bonds for BILLIONS of dollars to build new school buildings that we don't need, all because of a phony study, in the name of the "children".
Get back in there and do your homework!
That is such a typical reply. Obviously we are stuck with the schools we have, however in the future we need to use better judgement and harass our school board until they make the right decision and yes for our children.
Lucy

La Porte, TX

#7 Dec 23, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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I've got an idea!!
Lets build more chemical plants in La Porte!!!
That way we can ensure that EVERYONE in the future will have cancer!!!
Hey... it puts food on the table!!!
Screw tomorrow!!
We'll all get Obamacare to treat us!!!
I think we have enough health problems here already.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#8 Dec 23, 2013
The last consideration in the choice of location for Bayshore Elementary was the children.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#9 Dec 23, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
The last consideration in the choice of location for Bayshore Elementary was the children.
Agreed. The new school was built to forcefully extract tax money from hard working citizens and give it to construction companies.
Annuit Coeptis

Pasadena, TX

#10 Dec 23, 2013
Elaine, I agree. The LPISD caused the hurricane to destroy the old school, just so they could build a new one and give money to their construction buddies from your pocket, thereby making everyone mad at them. And who can blame them...the pay for the job of trustee is so attractive. You get the government you deserve. Vote them out if you are not happy with them.
Elaine

Houston, TX

#11 Dec 23, 2013
Annuit Coeptis wrote:
Elaine, I agree. The LPISD caused the hurricane to destroy the old school, just so they could build a new one and give money to their construction buddies from your pocket, thereby making everyone mad at them. And who can blame them...the pay for the job of trustee is so attractive. You get the government you deserve. Vote them out if you are not happy with them.
Let me see. The hurricane flooded all of our homes. So we all moved out and knocked down all of our houses and built new ones. What were we thinking?

The school could have been cleaned up for a fraction of the cost and kids could continue to WALK to school.

BTW: since the school has been opened, how much have the grades improved? I'll bet every kid now makes straight A's and all have better manners.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#12 Dec 23, 2013
Elaine wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed. The new school was built to forcefully extract tax money from hard working citizens and give it to construction companies.
And to increase the land values of the surrounding area... and that is just what is apparently obvious.

I'm sure there was quite a bit of money that exchanged hands... some of it was probably even legal.
fubar1

Houston, TX

#13 Dec 23, 2013
Elaine wrote:
<quoted text>
Let me see. The hurricane flooded all of our homes. So we all moved out and knocked down all of our houses and built new ones. What were we thinking?
The school could have been cleaned up for a fraction of the cost and kids could continue to WALK to school.
BTW: since the school has been opened, how much have the grades improved? I'll bet every kid now makes straight A's and all have better manners.
Bayshore was relocated in order to sell and build new homes in its immediate vicinity. It was a slap in the face to all the "old" taxpayers in Shoreacres and its immediate vicinity. They could have raised the school's elevation and rebuilt it on the same site.

The children of new and future residents were the only ones even remotely considered when the new site was chosen.
call this number

La Porte, TX

#14 Dec 25, 2013
The point is, the adverse medical effects of siting a school full of young children on a highway with diesel truck traffic and hazardous cargo was undertaken with no necessity and with substantial detrimental effects and costs. Why? We knew and continue to know better, but those charged with responsible action on our behalf weigh economic benefits for some as the most important consideration.
fubar1

Houston, TX

#15 Dec 25, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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Agreed. The new school was built to forcefully extract tax money from hard working citizens and give it to construction companies.
The school had to be rebuilt. It was moved to benefit realestate interests and the people with money who will buy their properties. Developers can get more cash with a neighborhood school next to their properties.
I remember

Pasadena, TX

#16 Dec 28, 2013
BSE was built on this site because it was the highest ground in the traditional BSE district.

BSE was built in less that 18 months from IKE to get the poor kids who had been displaced by the flooded school back to normal as soon as possible. If you remember they were scattered all over LP.

To renovate the old BSE would have taken many years due to insurance claims, and FEMA issues. It could not have been elevated.

BSE cost the LPISD about $3 million, after insurance and FEMA claims and a State Grant was settled and received. An incredible bargain...it also saved many jobs in LPISD.

THANK YOU LPISD...you did a fabulous jobs. BSE is one of the best elementary and most modern elementary school in the District.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#17 Dec 28, 2013
I remember wrote:
BSE was built on this site because it was the highest ground in the traditional BSE district.

BSE was built in less that 18 months from IKE to get the poor kids who had been displaced by the flooded school back to normal as soon as possible. If you remember they were scattered all over LP.

To renovate the old BSE would have taken many years due to insurance claims, and FEMA issues. It could not have been elevated.

BSE cost the LPISD about $3 million, after insurance and FEMA claims and a State Grant was settled and received. An incredible bargain...it also saved many jobs in LPISD.

THANK YOU LPISD...you did a fabulous jobs. BSE is one of the best elementary and most modern elementary school in the District.
Oh sure... because if the State and Federal governments pay for it... it's free, right???

Moron.
liar liar

Houston, TX

#18 Dec 28, 2013
I was the most brilliant and well liked student in school.

“Activist, Comedian, Con Man!”

Since: Jan 09

www.HeavyFed.com

#19 Dec 28, 2013
liar liar wrote:
I was the most brilliant and well liked student in school.
I was never well liked... but I was always the most brilliant student in my school.

It's not about being liked... I don't give a damn who likes me.
fubar

Houston, TX

#20 Dec 28, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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I was never well liked... but I was always the most brilliant student in my school.
It's not about being liked... I don't give a damn who likes me.
People didn't like you? I am shocked.

You may have been the most brilliant student in special ed.......maybe.

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