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Concerned Parent

Deer Park, TX

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May 9, 2013
 

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My son told me that DPISD does not use Deer Park Police Department for there random drug searches. Why? Do they not call Deer Park Police Department when there is an emergency? Why is this random drug search being contracted out and only allowed to search certain halls and certain parking areas? He heard this from his spanish teacher. I think Mr. Adair has a lot of explaining to do on this subject. Is the reason why it is contracted out because Mr. Adair doesn't want it known to the public that his leadership over the schools is less than stellar? Also, I would think that some of our teachers would demand more in a district in which they serve. Perhaps our teachers could reap the benefits of having that extra money go towards there salary. Do any other parents or teachers share in these concerns?
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May 9, 2013
 
Concerned Parent wrote:
My son told me that DPISD does not use Deer Park Police Department for there random drug searches. Why? Do they not call Deer Park Police Department when there is an emergency? Why is this random drug search being contracted out and only allowed to search certain halls and certain parking areas? He heard this from his spanish teacher. I think Mr. Adair has a lot of explaining to do on this subject. Is the reason why it is contracted out because Mr. Adair doesn't want it known to the public that his leadership over the schools is less than stellar? Also, I would think that some of our teachers would demand more in a district in which they serve. Perhaps our teachers could reap the benefits of having that extra money go towards there salary. Do any other parents or teachers share in these concerns?
Wonder how many are done during a school year.
Nope

Pasadena, TX

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May 10, 2013
 
Concerned Parent wrote:
My son told me that DPISD does not use Deer Park Police Department for there random drug searches. Why? Do they not call Deer Park Police Department when there is an emergency? Why is this random drug search being contracted out and only allowed to search certain halls and certain parking areas? He heard this from his spanish teacher. I think Mr. Adair has a lot of explaining to do on this subject. Is the reason why it is contracted out because Mr. Adair doesn't want it known to the public that his leadership over the schools is less than stellar? Also, I would think that some of our teachers would demand more in a district in which they serve. Perhaps our teachers could reap the benefits of having that extra money go towards there salary. Do any other parents or teachers share in these concerns?
No, because your son is incorrect.
Reality

Pasadena, TX

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May 10, 2013
 
The Police must have probable cause or a search warrant to conduct searches. A private individual (representative)of the school can order random search of areas under their control. When that is done, they, their representatives or a private security company can conduct those searches and still be acting within the law. It is as simple as that. If the police conducted random searches, it would be in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution (Bill of Rights)which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures. Instead of complaining about something you should have learned in school, talk to little Johnny and let him explain the Constitution to you. He probably knows more about it than you do. What is his complaint? Is he worried about his drug related protection?

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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Reality wrote:
The Police must have probable cause or a search warrant to conduct searches. A private individual (representative)of the school can order random search of areas under their control. When that is done, they, their representatives or a private security company can conduct those searches and still be acting within the law. It is as simple as that. If the police conducted random searches, it would be in violation of the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution (Bill of Rights)which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures. Instead of complaining about something you should have learned in school, talk to little Johnny and let him explain the Constitution to you. He probably knows more about it than you do. What is his complaint? Is he worried about his drug related protection?
Yeah,I would much rather have my kid searched without probable cause by someone besides a police officer. Duh? Do you honestly think that makes it right?
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Pasadena, TX

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May 10, 2013
 

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Yep Sure do! That's the only way we can battle the drug problems at our schools. Duh?
Me I Know Notheeng wrote:
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Yeah,I would much rather have my kid searched without probable cause by someone besides a police officer. Duh? Do you honestly think that makes it right?
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May 12, 2013
 
Nope wrote:
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No, because your son is incorrect.
How is Concerned Parents son incorrect. Easy to post no or yes but tell otherd why to support your reply.

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 12, 2013
 

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Random, unfounded drug searches are not going to keep kids from doing drugs. Duh. No one should be treated like a criminal unless they are acting like one.
Real

Houston, TX

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May 12, 2013
 
Everyone knows if a kid wants to do drugs they will. Keeping drugs off the campuses should be a continual effort made by DPISD thru the use of a k9. If it sniffs out drugs in a backpack locker or car, THEN they are treated like a criminal. If the student has no drugs then they aren't treated like a criminal the dog passes up the students belongings that don't contain drugs. Pretty elementary logic.
Michael

Deer Park, TX

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May 13, 2013
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but don't most kids do what they think they can get away with? By not having frequent drug searches along with harsh punishments, I believe this sends a message that bringing drugs, taking drugs and selling drugs is "A" OK with our Administrators, Teachers and other school district employees. I'd ask if anyone knows any of them personally? I sure don't.

I've seen what drugs can do to kids that take them and its never a good thing. Whether its constitutional or not is irrelevant. Parents can give their permission to allow personal searches. Lockers and desks are school property which are areas not under constitutional protection from being searched by our Police.

Why would a parent object to our professional Police department trying to keep our kids away from the evilness that follows illegal drugs?
juss sayin

Houston, TX

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May 15, 2013
 
If the police choose to walk around the school parking lot or around the lockers with their dog, they can do that all day long and there is nothing anyone can do about it. If the dog reacts to any vehicle or locker they will have their probable cause....

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 15, 2013
 
I agree, if a dog hits there is probable cause. However, if random drug searches keep kids from doing drugs then why are there still kids doing drugs? When do they all stop? Is it like after two or ten or twelve innocent kids and three guilty kids get caught? If you search fourteen kids in one day, and they were all innocent then how many drugs did you remove from campus? That's like saying putting people in jail stops people from drinking and doing drugs. They just make alcohol in the toilets and sneak drugs in.

I do not and would not allow an illegal search without probable cause of any human being, especially my kid, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

If you dont have anything to hide then why do you care? IS AN AGES-OLD MANIPULATION TECHNIQUE TO GET PEOPLE TO WILLINGLY GIVE UP THEIR RIGHTS SO THAT THE ONES WHO WOULD TAKE THEM DO NOT HAVE TO SHOW THEIR TRUE FACES AND THE LENGTHS THEY WOULD GO TO TO DEPRIVE CITIZENS OF THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS! Watch their anger flare and rear its ugly head if you refuse to give up your rights!

This issue is not about drugs! It is about eroding civil liberties in a way more palatable to the people! What parent doesn't want to keep drugs out of schools? Oh, look, that parent over there doesn't care about drugs in school because they won't give in on searches without probable cause. No, that parent cares about the Constitution. You just blindly swallowed a cyanide capsule because it tasted like strawberries.

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 15, 2013
 
so for a kid to enjoy their right to free education they have to give up their constitutional right against an illegal search without probable cause?
awe

Houston, TX

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May 16, 2013
 
So you are one of those parents that never checks their kids texts messages nor searches their rooms.

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 16, 2013
 
awe wrote:
So you are one of those parents that never checks their kids texts messages nor searches their rooms.
Oh, I did all of the above and then some. In my home on my kid. I encourage others to do the same. That hardly equates to illegal random searches by school districts without probable cause.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

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May 16, 2013
 
If you have nothing to hide then why worry about police searches.

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 16, 2013
 
Juan wrote:
If you have nothing to hide then why worry about police searches.
Same manipulative comment people have always made who would do away with our rights. Because I have a right to not be illegally searched even if I have something to hide. It is an attempt to manipulate people into giving up their rights so tje taker doesn't have to actually take them by force. I am not obligated to explain not doing something that I am not obligated to do. Using the excuse of keeping drugs out of school to begin eroding our rights is just the strawberry coating on the cyanide capsule.
YouKnowNothingAt All

Houston, TX

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May 16, 2013
 
Me I Know Notheeng wrote:
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Yeah,I would much rather have my kid searched without probable cause by someone besides a police officer. Duh? Do you honestly think that makes it right?
You are quite the village idiot, aren't you? Did it come naturally or do you have to work at it to be so stupid?

“Ok, maybe I know a little bit.”

Since: Sep 12

But I don't know that.

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May 17, 2013
 
YouKnowNothingAtAll wrote:
<quoted text>You are quite the village idiot, aren't you? Did it come naturally or do you have to work at it to be so stupid?
I know there are still kids doing drugs and drugs in schools. Seems to me the idiots are the people who go along with this even though it isn't working and will never work. You go ahead and drink that kool aid.
Juan

Vero Beach, FL

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May 17, 2013
 
Me I Know Notheeng wrote:
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Same manipulative comment people have always made who would do away with our rights. Because I have a right to not be illegally searched even if I have something to hide. It is an attempt to manipulate people into giving up their rights so tje taker doesn't have to actually take them by force. I am not obligated to explain not doing something that I am not obligated to do. Using the excuse of keeping drugs out of school to begin eroding our rights is just the strawberry coating on the cyanide capsule.
Your screen name fits you perfect. Dumber than a rock.

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