“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

...and I see it like it is!

#41 Oct 11, 2013
fubar wrote:
I have been watching Republicans all week say they are putting their feet down and not giving in. They are all disloyal. They have pledged their allegiance to Grover Norquist not America. They all keep saying they can't let affordable care act be funded because they are afraid people will like it.Ted Cruz is only looking out for Ted Cruz. Boehner admitted they made a deal this summer to fund the govt. through 2014 and he admits he lied now because it is politics driving the Republican party not love of country.
Got take a crap and unload some of that shit elsewhere but here.
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#42 Oct 11, 2013
Yeah fubar, if you have s--t to unload you really should find another place. With all the s--t that Heavy Fed has unloaded here this site is running out of room.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#43 Oct 12, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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Got take a crap and unload some of that shit elsewhere but here.
Whhat is wrong with the truth? I am sorry you do not like it. I can tell you that I would never vote for someone who signed a pledge to Grover Norquist that said I would put my pledge before the Good of the country. Heavy you talk a lot of crap but if you voted Republiccan on the federal level you are voting for people who have pledged not to put they country first under all circumstances. You claim to be well informed, if you are well informed you know I am telling the truth.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#44 Oct 12, 2013
Their country

“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

...and I see it like it is!

#45 Oct 12, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>Whhat is wrong with the truth? I am sorry you do not like it. I can tell you that I would never vote for someone who signed a pledge to Grover Norquist that said I would put my pledge before the Good of the country. Heavy you talk a lot of crap but if you voted Republiccan on the federal level you are voting for people who have pledged not to put they country first under all circumstances. You claim to be well informed, if you are well informed you know I am telling the truth.
The only Republican I would definitely vote for is Ron Paul... and he's retired... I might vote for Rand.

I don't like the Republicans any more than I do the Democrats... but when either one of them are right I'll admit it.

Right now... the Democrats are in the wrong.

Obamacare needs to be defunded and repealed before it does anymore harm to this country.

“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

...and I see it like it is!

#46 Oct 12, 2013
I mean... if they are going to socialize medicine and require everyone to buy health insurance why not just go ahead and nationalize it... tax everyone for it and cut the insurance middle men out of the loop?

Then maybe you could save some money on shitty healthcare.
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#47 Oct 12, 2013
That way you could get another freebee Fed. Health care with out working. Hell you wouldn't even have to panhandle for it.
fubar

San Francisco, CA

#48 Oct 13, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
I mean... if they are going to socialize medicine and require everyone to buy health insurance why not just go ahead and nationalize it... tax everyone for it and cut the insurance middle men out of the loop?
Then maybe you could save some money on shitty healthcare.
Medicare is socialized medicine not Obama care. Forcing people to buy insurance from private for profit companies is not socialism. You help fund Medicare, it is part of what is withheld from your paycheck. So you want to take Medicare away from old people? That should help you cut the line to Heaven. I am against any sort of forced participation with the insurance industry. It is a transfer of wealth from the middle class and working poor to the rich. That is not socialism. You can't just repeat stuff you hear and not expect people to correct you.
How has Obama care hurt America? Let me guess, you don't like people with previous conditions to be able to buy insurance, am I right.
fubar

San Francisco, CA

#49 Oct 13, 2013
Come on somebody defend the Republicans that signed pledges to Grover Norquist. You vote for people who signed pledges that supersede the needs of the country. It is one thing to vote for someone who is misguided but their hearts are set in the best interest of the country right or wrong. It is something completely different to vote for someone who makes a pledge to do something even if it hurts the country.

“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

...and I see it like it is!

#50 Oct 13, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>Medicare is socialized medicine not Obama care. Forcing people to buy insurance from private for profit companies is not socialism. You help fund Medicare, it is part of what is withheld from your paycheck. So you want to take Medicare away from old people? That should help you cut the line to Heaven. I am against any sort of forced participation with the insurance industry. It is a transfer of wealth from the middle class and working poor to the rich. That is not socialism. You can't just repeat stuff you hear and not expect people to correct you.
How has Obama care hurt America? Let me guess, you don't like people with previous conditions to be able to buy insurance, am I right.
Ummm... no... you're wrong on all counts.

If you force people to buy health insurance so that everyone is covered... that is pretty much socialism... just they included capitalism to steal more money from the people.

Outright socialism would probably be a bit better because more of the money would actually be spent on healthcare and not insurance companies and their investors.

I would much prefer free market healthcare without any government intrusion at all... bureaucracy and middle men just waste money.

This is supposed to be the land of the free... force and freedom do not equate.

Since: Jan 12

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#51 Oct 13, 2013
Heavy Fed wrote:
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Outright socialism would probably be a bit better because more of the money would actually be spent on healthcare and not insurance companies and their investors.
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This. Even a blind pig finds a truffle once in a while..
Defiant1

Deer Park, TX

#52 Oct 13, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>Medicare is socialized medicine not Obama care. Forcing people to buy insurance from private for profit companies is not socialism. You help fund Medicare, it is part of what is withheld from your paycheck. So you want to take Medicare away from old people? That should help you cut the line to Heaven. I am against any sort of forced participation with the insurance industry. It is a transfer of wealth from the middle class and working poor to the rich. That is not socialism. You can't just repeat stuff you hear and not expect people to correct you.
How has Obama care hurt America? Let me guess, you don't like people with previous conditions to be able to buy insurance, am I right.
How has ObamaCare hurt America?.

1. Ask the doctors who are taking early retirement to avoid being under the thumb of ObamaCare. Then ask the people who can't get the treatments that they need in time because of the shortage of doctors.

2. Ask the people who's health insurance premiums have gone up because of ObamaCare. With the cost of living increasing, that shouldn't be a problem, right?.

3. Ask the people who lost their full time jobs at large companies, only to be hired back as part timers due to companies avoiding the increased burden of paying for ObamaCare.

4. Finally, ask where in the Constitution do it say that government has the right to force citizens to buy from a third party or pay a penalty.

It's all about money and control. It's not about helping anyone.
fubar

San Jose, CA

#53 Oct 15, 2013
Defiant1 wrote:
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How has ObamaCare hurt America?.
1. Ask the doctors who are taking early retirement to avoid being under the thumb of ObamaCare. Then ask the people who can't get the treatments that they need in time because of the shortage of doctors.
2. Ask the people who's health insurance premiums have gone up because of ObamaCare. With the cost of living increasing, that shouldn't be a problem, right?.
3. Ask the people who lost their full time jobs at large companies, only to be hired back as part timers due to companies avoiding the increased burden of paying for ObamaCare.
4. Finally, ask where in the Constitution do it say that government has the right to force citizens to buy from a third party or pay a penalty.
It's all about money and control. It's not about helping anyone.
The cost of health care and insurance goes up every year and out paces inflation every year. I agree,as I have stated over and over,I am against any sort of forced requirement to have to do business with insurance companies. They have been forcing doctors into retirement for years. Insurance companies are the ones forcing the price of healthcare through the roof. I think the supreme court was wrong in declaring it constitutional(republican majority). It was even more wrong when they declared corporations were people(citizens United).
fubar

San Jose, CA

#54 Oct 15, 2013
Apparently slot of people don't know what socialism is but are parroting other people as in Fox news or right wing bloggers.
fubar

San Francisco, CA

#55 Oct 15, 2013
Alot
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#56 Oct 16, 2013
The saddest part of all is all the idiots in Congress; both the House and the Senate; both Republican, and Democrat, that voted for The Affordable Health Care Act, Obama Care, or whatever you choose to call it with out reading it. I believe it was Pelosi who said we need to pass it so we can find out what's in it. AND BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS WENT ALONG WITH IT. Says a lot for our elected officals of both parties doesn't it?

“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

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#57 Oct 16, 2013
fubar wrote:
Alot
A lot
Pinche Gringo

Baytown, TX

#58 Oct 17, 2013
fubar wrote:
<quoted text>The cost of health care and insurance goes up every year and out paces inflation every year. I agree,as I have stated over and over,I am against any sort of forced requirement to have to do business with insurance companies. They have been forcing doctors into retirement for years. Insurance companies are the ones forcing the price of healthcare through the roof. I think the supreme court was wrong in declaring it constitutional(republican majority). It was even more wrong when they declared corporations were people(citizens United).
But unions are people? Public sector unions are people? Define "people" then because a corporation, just like a union is nothing but people. It's semantics. But back to healthcare. Insurance companies ARE driving healthcare costs through the roof. Now Obamacare mandates you buy health insurance. How does that lower costs?
Texan

Falls Church, VA

#59 Oct 18, 2013
It doesn't.

“I call it like I see it...”

Since: Jan 09

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#60 Oct 18, 2013
Pinche Gringo wrote:
<quoted text>But unions are people? Public sector unions are people? Define "people" then because a corporation, just like a union is nothing but people. It's semantics. But back to healthcare. Insurance companies ARE driving healthcare costs through the roof. Now Obamacare mandates you buy health insurance. How does that lower costs?
Corporations are like the "Shell game scam" here in Las Vegas.

A couple people walk by... set up a table.

Another person walks by... sets down cups and a ball on the table.

Another person walks up and stands behind the table.

Then two or three other people, usually women in in the scam... they walk up and start acting excited like they just won.

The guy behind the table hands them some money like they won.

Usually that will grab the attention of a few tourists walking by and they will stop and watch.

Then the real scam begins.

The cup man will begin his work... shuffling the ball beneath the three cups trading from one cup to the other... trying to be a bit sloppy so it's apparent where the ball is.

Then he asks for bets... and of course the people in on the scam usually bet $100... and they win... they get excited and attract more attention.

Usually by this time the people who stopped before are ready to bet.

From there, tourists are coming out left and right with $100 bets themselves... which they almost always lose.

As soon as they think they have taken enough money... everyone scatters like cockroaches in different directions.

Then someone else walks by and picks up the cups and balls... and someone else picks up the table.

It's a bunch of people involved in organized crime, but if something happens... no one is left to take the blame... just like corporations.

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