Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

Aurora, IL

#75340 Jul 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Do you love Muslims?
Do you love Palestinians?
Please answer TRUTHFULLY. Tell me your views about Muslims and Palestinians.
I'll answer that. I have close friends who are Palestinians and Pakistani. The relationship started as business and progressed to close friendship. I have attended their life cycle events and they have attended mine. We discuss religion all the time. But, when we do we focus on similarities. It's remarkable how many similarities there are.

At one Pakistani wedding, I had a long talk with the Imam while waiting for the wedding to start. We discussed how similar some of the wedding traditions were. I also found out that just like everything Jewish starts late, so does everything Pakistani. Invitation said 7pm. Wedding started at 9:30.

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#75341 Jul 18, 2014
Eric wrote:
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I'll answer that. I have close friends who are Palestinians and Pakistani. The relationship started as business and progressed to close friendship. I have attended their life cycle events and they have attended mine. We discuss religion all the time. But, when we do we focus on similarities. It's remarkable how many similarities there are.
At one Pakistani wedding, I had a long talk with the Imam while waiting for the wedding to start. We discussed how similar some of the wedding traditions were. I also found out that just like everything Jewish starts late, so does everything Pakistani. Invitation said 7pm. Wedding started at 9:30.
I hate to say it but it is probably a waste to answer in great detail as he will just use it as a pivot for some silly idea

But for the record, my BEST friend in grad school was Palestinian. Later, he invited me to southern Lebanon for his wedding - said as a guest of honor he could guarantee my security. I didnt take him up on that. Sadly he ran into greencard issues right before 911. Bad timing.

Eric

Aurora, IL

#75342 Jul 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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I hate to say it but it is probably a waste to answer in great detail as he will just use it as a pivot for some silly idea
I come to the understanding that the only actual response is to disregard his red herrings.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75343 Jul 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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try again - I was forbidden!
Funny, I have no problem. Try this. It's almost the same. Was going for the devious facial expression.

http://disneycartoonsfree.net/abu-wallpaper/

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#75344 Jul 18, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Funny, I have no problem. Try this. It's almost the same. Was going for the devious facial expression.
http://disneycartoonsfree.net/abu-wallpaper/
Why would you want to make a hero out of him?

but then again, maybe for Joel a good role model to aspire to

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#75345 Jul 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>...my BEST friend in grad school was Palestinian...
'I have Palestinian friends'. Where have we heard that before?
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75346 Jul 18, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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'I have Palestinian friends'. Where have we heard that before?
Some of my best friends are Palestinians

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#75347 Jul 18, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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'I have Palestinian friends'. Where have we heard that before?
Had not have, and more to the point: I had a friend who is Palestinian.

You heard it from me.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75348 Jul 18, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>1. One of the provisions that the Supreme Court relied upon wasn't part of the Constitution during Jefferson's tenure in office.
2. The Constitutionality of a statute is only decided when someone challenges it.
3. It's all a red herring. What the Supreme Court says is the law. At the time of your statement that homosexuality is illegal in most states, the Court had ruled on the subject. Therefore, you were wrong. Second you were wrong because most states didn't have such a law.
Eric---"homosexuality is legal in EACH and EVERY state".

HughBe--- Another example that supports my position and that shows that you talk too much BS comes next.

"Colorado's Supreme Court on Friday ordered Denver's clerk to STOP issuing marriage licenses to gay couples while while the state's ban against the unions remains in place."

http://news.yahoo.com/top-colorado-court-halt...

Eric---The Constitutionality of a statute is only decided when someone CHALLENGES it.

HughBe--- Did Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence, LAWYER and PRESIDENT know that CASTRATING people like YOU for SODOMY was unconstitutional given that sodomy was supported by the constitution?

Tell me why members of your community did not CHALLENGE the constitutionality of being CASTRATED for SODOMY given that sodomy was NOT against the Constitution?

Did they enjoy being CASTRATED?

YES seems to be the ONLY answer otherwise your people would have CHALLENGED the constitutionality of such actions.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75349 Jul 19, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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By the way, Jewish culture has more in common with Islamic culture than Christian culture. But that goes without saying...
Incorrect.

A few superficial areas may overlap in Judaism and Islam but there's an ocean of a difference between the most fundamental concepts of Judaism and Islam.

Judaism is a rip off of the neighboring Babylonian cultures of the past, while Islam has retained a few tenets of Judaism albeit in modified form, it has borrowed from Christianity and also draws from Eastern mystical traditions especially Vedanta - why, aside from other minute details, the very word Islam is a modified version of the Sanskrit Ishlayam and Allah is a Vedic god as mentioned in the 10,000 year old or more Atharva Veda..
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75350 Jul 19, 2014
I was out of India for 3 days and at present am very involved in finalizing an important financial deal. I'll be butting in in a few days. Bye.

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#75352 Jul 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
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Incorrect.
A few superficial areas may overlap in Judaism and Islam but there's an ocean of a difference between the most fundamental concepts of Judaism and Islam.
Judaism is a rip off of the neighboring Babylonian cultures of the past, while Islam has retained a few tenets of Judaism albeit in modified form, it has borrowed from Christianity and also draws from Eastern mystical traditions especially Vedanta - why, aside from other minute details, the very word Islam is a modified version of the Sanskrit Ishlayam and Allah is a Vedic god as mentioned in the 10,000 year old or more Atharva Veda..
Do you know what culture is? it is the alive stuff, not the dead stuff.

What you are referring to is the theology, not the culture.

You need to get out more often.

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#75353 Jul 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
I was out of India for 3 days and at present am very involved in finalizing an important financial deal. I'll be butting in in a few days. Bye.
Low wage employment is better than no employment at all. Go for it.

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#75354 Jul 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
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Incorrect.
A few superficial areas may overlap in Judaism and Islam but there's an ocean of a difference between the most fundamental concepts of Judaism and Islam.
Judaism is a rip off of the neighboring Babylonian cultures of the past, while Islam has retained a few tenets of Judaism albeit in modified form, it has borrowed from Christianity and also draws from Eastern mystical traditions especially Vedanta - why, aside from other minute details, the very word Islam is a modified version of the Sanskrit Ishlayam and Allah is a Vedic god as mentioned in the 10,000 year old or more Atharva Veda..
What does Ishlayam mean?

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#75357 Jul 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
I have to leave you darlings for now.
Fired for probably stating the obvious - no wonder why Jamaica is still a 3rd world country
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KINGSTON, Jamaica — The head of Jamaica's most prominent human rights group resigned Sunday amid a lingering controversy over a sex education program that the organization introduced in children's group homes.

Kay Osborne, a former manager of a local TV station who became executive director of Jamaicans for Justice in April, announced the end of her tenure as director of the group Sunday.

In a letter to the board chairwoman of Jamaicans for Justice, Osborne said she was unaware of the sex education program in six children's homes before taking the job as director earlier this year.

The sex education initiative was intended to prevent the spread of HIV in Jamaica. But critics say it was inappropriate for youngsters. It included references to anal sex, which is a crime on the Caribbean island.

The controversy has made headlines in Jamaica for weeks. Board members have stepped down in the fallout, and Jamaicans for Justice has said it did not properly vet the content of the sex education program for young wards of the state.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014/07/20/wo...
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75358 Jul 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Eric---"homosexuality is legal in EACH and EVERY state".
HughBe--- Another example that supports my position and that shows that you talk too much BS comes next.
"Colorado's Supreme Court on Friday ordered Denver's clerk to STOP issuing marriage licenses to gay couples while while the state's ban against the unions remains in place."
http://news.yahoo.com/top-colorado-court-halt...
Eric---The Constitutionality of a statute is only decided when someone CHALLENGES it.
HughBe--- Did Jefferson, the principal author of the Declaration of Independence, LAWYER and PRESIDENT know that CASTRATING people like YOU for SODOMY was unconstitutional given that sodomy was supported by the constitution?
Tell me why members of your community did not CHALLENGE the constitutionality of being CASTRATED for SODOMY given that sodomy was NOT against the Constitution?
Did they enjoy being CASTRATED?
YES seems to be the ONLY answer otherwise your people would have CHALLENGED the constitutionality of such actions.
Diversions, diversions, diversions.

The answer is that YOU were wrong when you said that homosexuality is illegal in most US states.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75359 Jul 20, 2014
JOEL wrote:
I was out of India for 3 days and at present am very involved in finalizing an important financial deal. I'll be butting in in a few days. Bye.
And they let you back into the country? I thought that they would have made you the Philip Nolan of India.

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#75361 Jul 21, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>And they let you back into the country? I thought that they would have made you the Philip Nolan of India.
Great, somebody finally posts something intelligent, and as a result the thread dies....
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75362 Jul 21, 2014
Wait. Hugh will get on and repost the same crap for the tenth time in an attempt to foment trouble.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75363 Jul 21, 2014
Eric wrote:
Wait. Hugh will get on and repost the same crap for the tenth time in an attempt to foment trouble.
Hi dear, here is a little love notice. Note, you're at risk.

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Please take the necessary precautions as this forum's community does not want to lose any of its members.

Much love, mon.

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