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#64397 Dec 22, 2013
As far as possible, a nation should be multicultural where people of all cultures are welcome in a strictly secular and pluralistic setup. Merit, honesty, compassion, bravery and loyalty should be rewarded, while provisions should be made to train the underprivileged to maximize their innate capacities in order to become an integral part of the national mainstream and to lead productive lives instead of depending on charity and freebies that degrade a human being and put a great strain on the resources of a nation. Only those who cannot fend for themselves under any circumstance (after trying their best to be productive citizens) should be given adequate money handouts and/or other forms of material help as the case maybe.

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#64398 Dec 22, 2013
The great advances in science and the refinement of the human sentient faculties that afford us deeper insights into the origins and functional mechanisms of the universe and into the workings of the mind-matter matrix and the superb growth of technology have replaced religious nonsense. The age of religion is over and rightfully belongs to a crude past when the human mind was no better than that of an animal or a barbarian. Religious mumbo jumbo should be confined to shrines, seminaries and houses. Religion should not be taught elsewhere. Degrees in theology should be awarded by religious bodies and not by universities. Any references to racism, fanaticism, supremacism, blood sacrifices and incitement to violence should be banned by law. Schools, colleges and universities should focus exclusively on providing quality education based on proven knowledge and practicals in the labs, field trips, seminar halls and in industry. So, naturally, communication skills, sciences, math, technology, logic and the secular humanities should be the subjects taught in educational institutions.

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#64399 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
CHRISTMAS, WINTERVAL OR HOLIDAYS?
In an attempt to further secularize public life, there's an increasing move in the West to dub Christmas as "winterval" (winter festival) or simply by the generic term "holidays".
I never heard of this, and I live in the west
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
CHRISTMAS, WINTERVAL OR HOLIDAYS?While every attempt at separation of the church from the state is welcome, no single festival should be singled out.
Every festival whether it be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, pagan or any other should officially be called by a common term "festival" or simply "holiday(s)".
No Jew is asking anyone else to celebrate our holiday, which happened a few weks ago anyway, so I dont why this is a concern of yours. Straw argument.

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#64400 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
BAN THE PUBLIC INSTALLATION OF RELIGIOUS SYMBOLS:
The public display of religious symbols should be best confined to one's body or to shrines and houses.
There should be no public installations of menorahs, star of David, crosses, swastikas, AUM, crescent moon and other religious symbols.
This move will augur well for the further secularization of society by driving religion into the private spaces of believers.
rabbee: but then you have to ban, all pagan secular religious symbols too. that would just leave you, with a public vacant lot. and a more efficient, federal government.

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#64401 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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No Jew is asking anyone else to celebrate our holiday, which happened a few weks ago anyway, so I dont why this is a concern of yours. Straw argument

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What did you say? LOL.

No one cares what the Jews celebrate.

What I said was that any festival should be officially designated as simply the "holiday(s)" and not by its name - Chanukah, Christmas, Eid, Diwali or whatever.

The Jews, Christians and Muslims can celebrate whatever festival they wish to without expecting the government to recognize any of these mumbo jumbo celebrations..

This is what I meant - did you get it. retard?

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#64402 Dec 22, 2013
be a lot easier just to ban Joel from public spaces

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#64403 Dec 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: but then you have to ban, all pagan secular religious symbols too. that would just leave you, with a public vacant lot. and a more efficient, federal government

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Geometric symbols with universal meanings can be retained - swoosh, circle, dots, leminiscate, flowers, animals, birds, greenery, mountains, etc, can be retained.

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#64404 Dec 22, 2013
A nation that functions on the basis of pluralism, secularism, justice, mercy, transparency, thrift, hard-work and accountability and that rewards intelligence, compassion, honesty, multiculturalism, eco-sensitivity, cleanliness, efficiency and loyalty should go far, very far, indeed.

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#64405 Dec 22, 2013
Geometric symbols, swoosh, circle, dots, leminiscate, flowers, animals, birds, greenery, mountains, etc, can be retained, while religious symbols should be banned from being installed in public spaces.

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#64406 Dec 22, 2013
A nice way to inspire the citizens of a nation would be to instal huge statues of great men and women like scientists, philosophers, statesmen, artists, writers, athletes and freedom fighters in public spaces with a short summary highlighting the superlative achievements of the person concerned. Replicas of modern machinery, labs, communication equipment, geometric symbols, parts of human anatomy and floral and faunal forms, sound ecological practices among other useful things could also be installed in key public locations as a means of educating people so that they meaningfully become an integral part of a knowledge-based society .

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#64407 Dec 22, 2013
The age of religion is over. Only retards belong to a religion these days.

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#64408 Dec 22, 2013
Religion is a distasteful relic of a barbaric past when mentally ill men went around persecuting/killing non-conformists, practicing human/animal sacrifices, advocating narrow tribalism and preaching mumbo jumbo.

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#64409 Dec 22, 2013
Science, technology, universal ethics, world communication, world government, ecological sensitivity, vegetarianism, unification, multiculturalism, secularism, high efficiency, incisive intelligence, non-violence, refined aesthetics, investigations into mind-matter and meditation to harness the powers of the mind are the hallowed paths leading to the greatest possible heights attainable via the enlightened human consciousness.

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#64410 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
CHRISTMAS, WINTERVAL OR HOLIDAYS?

Every festival whether it be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, pagan or any other should officially be called by a common term "festival" or simply "holiday(s)".
There is no need to do this, if the religions in question dont confuse the issue by assuming that others follow them. You make that assumption, thus you are advancing a straw argument

In Judaism, we have internal distinctions between holidays and festivals, and we also have remembrances. Our calendar is more complex than worth sharing with you, nor does it need to be shared on that level with the outside world UNLESS there is mutual interest.

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#64411 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Geometric symbols with universal meanings can be retained - swoosh, circle, dots, leminiscate, flowers, animals, birds, greenery, mountains, etc, can be retained.
rabbee: nope i am sorry, those are pagan religious symbols. and even the architecture of almost all the buildings are of pagan design. all you have is an area with nothing, not even any secular or sectarian people allowed.

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#64412 Dec 22, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Geometric symbols, swoosh, circle, dots, leminiscate, flowers, animals, birds, greenery, mountains, etc, can be retained, while religious symbols should be banned from being installed in public spaces.
rabbee: you just can't band all sectarian religious symbols, and keep secular pagan religious symbols. to favor your religion, of the pagan secular devils. that's still, religious hypocrisy. i do not care about the devil, protecting you with making you religiously sick. you put yourself in that, pickle barrel religiously. so that any attempts to leave, will result in sever illness's.

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#64413 Dec 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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In Judaism, we have internal distinctions between holidays and festivals, and we also have remembrances. Our calendar is more complex than worth sharing with you, nor does it need to be shared on that level with the outside world UNLESS there is mutual interest.
No one gives a shit what festivals or holidays the observant Jews celebrate.

Only don't expect the government to name the festivals/holidays that you celebrate.

As I said earlier, any religious festival that is a public holiday in a nation should simply be designated "holiday(s)" by the government.

A truly secular government does not go around making announcements about a particular festival that is anyway all mumbo jumbo.

Religious festivals that're public holidays should simply be termed holiday(s) and clerics and law teachers of the religion should not be patronized by government officials.

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#64414 Dec 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: nope i am sorry, those are pagan religious symbols. and even the architecture of almost all the buildings are of pagan design. all you have is an area with nothing, not even any secular or sectarian people allowed.
Circles, triangles, squares, swooshes, floral/faunal forms, dots, lines, etc, are nature-symbols and are the best symbols that express universal phenomena unlike those nonsensical religious symbols/objects like menorahs, crosses, stars, etc.

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#64415 Dec 22, 2013
Mumbo jumbo - religious festivals, tribal holidays and remembrances. LOL.

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#64418 Dec 22, 2013
In this evolutionary sense, only the Vedanta can truly be called evolutionary since it's always pushing its insights to greater heights by overthrowing all the older teachings and by dismantling the very objects of past veneration. This evolutionary trend should be encouraged since the first word is never the last word - so much more needs to be charted out, comprehended and manifested.

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