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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50695 Apr 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text> After the flood of Noah, God said he would never again destroy all flesh and the sign of this covenant was a rainbow. For what you believe to happen, all flesh would have to be cut off and that is not going to happen. Do you know at your age how long it would take to populate the earth and where is the Messiah in all this, the Messiah is supposed to be barren. Is. 54:1
rabbee: G-D has previously commanded the deluvian to happen, for thousands and thousands of other third and fourth Torot times. and THEY have always insured that Noach, HisFamily and whoever the 144,000 talking critters are survive. so G-D has always kept THEIR Promise, to not destroy all flesh.

and this whole world, has always been judged. by the way they have helped, the more subtle than any other beast of the fields decieve their grandmother with their not being here in TheTorah.

when this world quits their, complaing about their all not being here in TheTorah. then maybe we can all, make it to GanEden for a change.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50696 Apr 11, 2013
The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry, they worship a different god. Are there muslims living in Israel proper? no, they're segregated because they cannot get along with each other and they serve a different god. Israel should be pure and the land is going to "vomit" them out.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50697 Apr 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry, they worship a different god. Are there muslims living in Israel proper? no, they're segregated because they cannot get along with each other and they serve a different god. Israel should be pure and the land is going to "vomit" them out.
SB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry

HughBe---- Who are YOU? Why do YOU promote LIES and hate? Why do YOU esteem your own STUPIDITY and LIES above the words of God?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50698 Apr 11, 2013
Susan B, by esteeming your own BS above the words of God YOU are guilty of IDOLATRY.

Put it this way, you have elevated your thoughts ABOVE God's.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50699 Apr 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry, they worship a different god. Are there muslims living in Israel proper? no, they're segregated because they cannot get along with each other and they serve a different god. Israel should be pure and the land is going to "vomit" them out.
rabbee: hold on thar, little susie. if HaShem kicked everyone, out of Ysrael for not being to to HIM. there would not be, any one there today.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50700 Apr 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
SB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry
HughBe---- Who are YOU? Why do YOU promote LIES and hate? Why do YOU esteem your own STUPIDITY and LIES above the words of God?
rabbee: come on hughbe, doo be doo. your talking to a child here, use a little tact. don't be, so brutal.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50701 Apr 11, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: hold on thar, little susie. if HaShem kicked everyone, out of Ysrael for not being to to HIM. there would not be, any one there today.
that should have been: for not being true to HIM.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50702 Apr 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
SB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm concerned they should all be driven out and banned. They are not Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry
HughBe---- Who are YOU? Why do YOU promote LIES and hate? Why do YOU esteem your own STUPIDITY and LIES above the words of God?
I speak the absolute truth as I see it and I don't believe Jesus was the Messiah or son of God. Dan. 8:12 "...and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced and prospered." Dan. 9:13 "...that we might turn from our iniquities and understand your truth." The Messiah/God will change times (years) and laws. The truth is mostly the OT, but is not what Jews believe, there is some truth in all religions. The OT is the word of the living God.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50703 Apr 11, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Susan B, by esteeming your own BS above the words of God YOU are guilty of IDOLATRY.
Put it this way, you have elevated your thoughts ABOVE God's.
The scripture says, "my thoughts are higher than your thoughts and my ways than your ways". You don't understand what an idol is. It is worship of something represented or physical.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50704 Apr 11, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: hold on thar, little susie. if HaShem kicked everyone, out of Ysrael for not being to to HIM. there would not be, any one there today.
These practices normally go on for hundreds of years and history repeats itself. By the way, I'm not a child, I'm almost 52 years old, the same age as Mr. Obama. All of Israel will be driven out of the land, it is polluted by all of them. Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50705 Apr 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>These practices normally go on for hundreds of years and history repeats itself. By the way, I'm not a child, I'm almost 52 years old, the same age as Mr. Obama. All of Israel will be driven out of the land, it is polluted by all of them. Jews, Christians, and Muslims.
rabbee: ok so you are 52 years old, and have a child psychiatrist who thiks he's eleeyahoo??? and relating your age, to obama is not a compliment. well i believe G-D has other plans, for the smaratans, teeshbeets, and the evareem. and you know that since, G-D Commanded the ingathering to beguin. at the time of our arrival, you know HaShem has and ace up HIS Sleeve. and i am kind of hoping, i am not that ace. and i do not need to be, told about repetition. every 6818 years, i am here in TheTorah like precision clockwork. exact same time, exact same place, exact same adam.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50706 Apr 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The scripture says, "my thoughts are higher than your thoughts and my ways than your ways". You don't understand what an idol is. It is worship of something represented or physical.
SB---You don't understand what an IDOL is.

HughBe---Your limited understanding of the word IDOL is noted.

Let me share a DICTIONARY definition. Idol=a person who is revered(meaning having a lot or RESPECT for), admired, or highly loved.

Now, putting it in context, it is clear to even the BLIND that if an Authority says one thing and an individual says the opposite then such an individual has greater RESPECT for his or her own view than for the view of the AUTHORITY. In fact such a position can be taken to mean that there is no RESPECT for the Authority.

Now God says one thing and YOU say the opposite. In other words you do not REVERE what God says. Instead YOU have elevated your own views above His. In essence you have magnified yourself ABOVE God.

If YOU have elevated your views above God then you must be a god/idol and your master is yourself.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50707 Apr 12, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus, along with his God (Satan) is my nemesis. Both have been reincarnated and Jesus (Bill) used to be a friend of mine, he is actually called the "reincarnation of an idol" in the oral tradition Jesus is Satans agent to encourage them to sin by promising them life. Jesus s foretold in the OT as the idol of Israel.
So you have taken the role of Satan?

Do you think you will be able to beat the forces of truth by your extremist behaviour?

Are you Jewish by any chance?

I think you are one of the leading general in the armies of Anti Christ arranged in rows to fight against the army of Mehdi and Jesus!!

There is still time to turn back and change your attitude!!

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#50708 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have taken the role of Satan?
Do you think you will be able to beat the forces of truth by your extremist behaviour?
Are you Jewish by any chance?
I think you are one of the leading general in the armies of Anti Christ arranged in rows to fight against the army of Mehdi and Jesus!!
There is still time to turn back and change your attitude!!
Nope, not one of ours

Why would you even ask that question? cant you read?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50709 Apr 12, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
SB---You don't understand what an IDOL is.
HughBe---Your limited understanding of the word IDOL is noted.
Let me share a DICTIONARY definition. Idol=a person who is revered(meaning having a lot or RESPECT for), admired, or highly loved.
Now, putting it in context, it is clear to even the BLIND that if an Authority says one thing and an individual says the opposite then such an individual has greater RESPECT for his or her own view than for the view of the AUTHORITY. In fact such a position can be taken to mean that there is no RESPECT for the Authority.
Now God says one thing and YOU say the opposite. In other words you do not REVERE what God says. Instead YOU have elevated your own views above His. In essence you have magnified yourself ABOVE God.
If YOU have elevated your views above God then you must be a god/idol and your master is yourself.
"you have magnified your word above all your name" There's a second definition of "idol". An image of a god, used as an object or instrument of worship, or any heathen deity.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#50710 Apr 12, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
So you have taken the role of Satan?
Do you think you will be able to beat the forces of truth by your extremist behaviour?
Are you Jewish by any chance?
I think you are one of the leading general in the armies of Anti Christ arranged in rows to fight against the army of Mehdi and Jesus!!
There is still time to turn back and change your attitude!!
Your acceptance of Jesus as the messiah is why I'm not a muslim and Satan will be put away forever even in the Christian tradition. Adam is satan and Jesus is his messiah who you call antichrist. He is the leader of he forces of darkness and I say the same thing to you, there's still time to turn back and change.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#50711 Apr 12, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text> Your acceptance of Jesus as the messiah is why I'm not a muslim and Satan will be put away forever even in the Christian tradition. Adam is satan and Jesus is his messiah who you call antichrist. He is the leader of he forces of darkness and I say the same thing to you, there's still time to turn back and change.
rabbee: you only think you know, what you are talking about. and Adam and the alleged fake name jesus, are the same person.

and in case you have not noticed, i have no followers of the forces of darkness. because i have constantly, rejected all of you as my or true followers of HaShem G-D.

as far as G-D and i are concerned, you are all at minimum athiests of the fist kind. and i have learned more from G-D, in OurThree visits. than this whole world has learned in the last 5773 man years.

and whether you believe, G-D is going to put me and the woman in charge for the last day is irrelevant. since G-D is still going to do, what G-D always does here in This Same Again Story of ThePhysical Creation. G-D does not change, this story of the creation to this world. and you are all, deluding yourselves that G-D is no longer giving TheTorah here in IT.

all this whole world has done again, is decieve them-selves you are not all here in TheStory from G-D. this world does not happen, the way any of you say. it all happens, TheWay HaShem G-D says. and G-D is very, very, very, angry at this whole world again. for not even considering being here in TheTorah from HIM. because your all idolators, of other pretend true not here in TheTorah experts.

and TheG-D of Only TheTorah, is not about to bow. to any of your, new not here in TheTorah testament demands. G-D is not going to change this story, to suit your ever insane mental convience
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#50713 Apr 12, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text> Your acceptance of Jesus as the messiah is why I'm not a muslim and Satan will be put away forever even in the Christian tradition. Adam is satan and Jesus is his messiah who you call antichrist. He is the leader of he forces of darkness and I say the same thing to you, there's still time to turn back and change.
I am unable to see why you are so opposed to Jesus. Are you Jew by any chance?

Jesus never said or did anything which is against the Laws and the prophets.

It were his followers, who under the influence of St. Paul said those horrendous things.

Why can't you be like Muslims, while we believe in Jesus, we reject innovations of Paul?

This hatred for Jesus, will lead you no where. Just not to believe in Jesus, you have equated him with Satan?

You should be ashamed of yourself, that is what I call Extremism of the Highest order.
JOEL

India

#50714 Apr 13, 2013
Symbolism , beliefs, mentation, religious ceremonies, observance of festivals, community feelings, veneration of prophets and scripture worship of anthropopathic beings each calling itself God or G-d and the like are aspects of idolatry. Form and formlessness are embodiments of symbolism. The causal mechanism of form and formlessness exceeds both of these and is a projection of the absolute - the unified field of consciousness-energy.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#50715 Apr 13, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>"you have magnified your word above all your name" There's a second definition of "idol". An image of a god, used as an object or instrument of worship, or any heathen deity.
SusanB---The topic is about messianic Jews in Israel. As far as I'm CONCERNED they should all be driven out and banned. They are NOT Jewish anymore, they are Christian and that is idolatry

HughBe----I want you to compare the opinion that you promote ABOVE the words of God Almighty, BELOW.

Jeremiah 7:12 "But go ye now unto my place which was in Shiloh, where I set my name at the first, and see what I did to it for the WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL."

Note very well Susan B, "WICKEDNESS of MY people ISRAEL"

God Almighty called them ISRAEL even though they were indulging in WICKEDNESS.

Get it so far?

What is this WICKEDNESS?

Answer is, IDOLATRY. So, God Almighty called them "MY people ISRAEL" even though they were practising IDOLATRY.

So my question is, who are YOU to say otherwise?

How DARE you or anyone else to ESTEEM yourself or himself ABOVE God Almighty, via opinions.

Are those who do such things MIGHTIER than God?

Why do YOU revere or RESPECT your opinion ABOVE God's?

Here is the proof of the IDOLATRY at Shiloh.

Judges 18:30-31 read with UNDERSTANDING.

"And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land.

And they set them up Micah's graven image, which he made, all the time that the house of God was in ShILOH."

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