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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48245 Jan 31, 2013
Clear wrote:
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This is a wise statement,from a Spiritual mind written physically :)
MUQ---Messianic Jews, if they are really what they claim to be, are the True Jews and the True Christians too.

HughBe---Correct i.e. true Spiritually and true physically the others are true physically.

Clear-cut-----This is a wise statement,from a Spiritual mind written physically :)

HughBe---Thanks and you are correct, Clear-cut.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48246 Jan 31, 2013
Clear wrote:
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Do the lips work for the heart or can anyone know it?
MUQ---God sees what is inside your hearts and not what your lips speak.
HughBe--- Correct, MUQ. The lips DECEIVE and LIE.

Clear-cut---Do the lips work for the heart or can anyone know it?

HughBe--- They work for the heart.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48247 Jan 31, 2013
former res wrote:
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You've shown yourself to be a fraud, and worse yet, a waste of time.
Ms. I understand the reason for your rant. I have no doubt your current rant is influenced by the fact that your man made a comment and both of you are DENYING it and I find it rather strange and STUPID since it is easily verified.

Ms., here it is again.

Frijoles--"Homer Simpson is also a SOURCE of wisdom"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48248 Jan 31, 2013
former res wrote:
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Only because of the Rapture.
When...."everyone who doesnít believe in Jesus is incinerated."
HughBe--- EXPLAIN and reconcile with your charge of anti-Semitic.
"The longstanding tradition of the US being Israelís closest ally is arguably being dismantled by policies detrimental to Israel. But there is ONE ally that is STEADFAST... the Evangelical Christian."

Former--Only because of the Rapture.

HughBe--- The reason does NOT matter what is important is that EVANGELICAL Christians are Israel's "ONE ally that is STEADFAST", according to the Journalist and Jew who wrote those words.

Put it this way your IMAGINED reason is of no consequence and what is important is the reality of the SUPPORT to Israel.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48249 Jan 31, 2013
former res wrote:
Huggy
Perhaps I was a bit harsh.
Please turn you other cheek and forgive me.
Forgiven for many reasons. Now, I understand that your rants are because of your current cycle and the associated mood swings.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48250 Jan 31, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Forgiven for many reasons. Now, I understand that your rants are because of your current cycle and the associated mood swings.
Post something intelligent for a change instead of arguing over scriptural mumbo jumbo.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48251 Jan 31, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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"Homer Simpson is also a SOURCE of wisdom"
Anything and everything can be a source of wisdom.

Take the wise words or wise actions from any source, even from the most unlikely and insignificant, and enrich yourself and evolve in real time.

If you think that scripture is the fountain-head of wisdom then you're sadly mistaken since most of scriptural teachings are junk and can easily be proven to be so.

Never make the mistake of thinking that any scripture is the last word on truth or existence.

The last word is yet to be spoken.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48252 Jan 31, 2013
QUESTION:

How true is this assertion - change is the only thing we can be certain of?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48253 Jan 31, 2013
SEMITIC IDEA OF GOD:

What the Middle Easterners meant by G-d or God is a being of a particular plane of the Manifestation.

The Absolute is very different.

YHVH/El, Allah, Baal, Molech and other beings are G-d or God to various groups of people.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48254 Jan 31, 2013
ALLAH - A GENERIC & SPECIFIC NAME:

Allah is both a generic as well as a specific name given to a particular being. As a generic name, Allah refers to God in general - a being of a plane - and as a specific name, Allah refers to the Islamic being, its God.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48255 Jan 31, 2013
EL/YHVH - A SPECIFIC NAME OF A PARTICULAR BEING:

Yes, El/YHVH is a being of a particular plane of the Manifestation which the ancient Hebrews worshipped as G-d. As such El/YHVH is not a generic name like the Islamic Allah which is both generic as well as specific.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48256 Jan 31, 2013
MONOTHEISM & ALLAH AND YHVH ARE DIFFERENT BEINGS:

Both YHVH of the Hebrews and Allah of the Muslims are fiercely individualistic beings of specific planes of the Manifestation who warned their respective bunch of followers to refrain from worshipping rival beings and in this sense both Judaism and Islam are rigidly monotheistic faiths. However, based on the characteristics, scope and teachings, it should be noted that YHVH and Allah are not the same being.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48257 Jan 31, 2013
MONOTHEISM & STRIFE:

Monotheism means the worship of one being to the exclusion of others. This accounts for all the jealousy, dire warnings to apostates and heretics, savagery, constant warfare with people who worship other beings, blood sacrifice as an act of appeasement and of forging a bond with the being worshipped. Monotheism is a very inferior and parochial form of worship that invariably breeds extremists and fanatics.

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#48258 Jan 31, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Former--Is Huggy saying there is absolutely nothing to be learned from fiction?
HughBe--- Son son, your man is saying that Simpson is the SOURCE of wisdom. Sit in a corner and THINK, for a change.
Former--You are being dishonest. This is not at all what Frijoles said.
HughBe--- Listen well BOY, don't step beyond your bounds. YOU are LYING, as usual. His actual words follow, DUNCE/LIAR.
Frijoles--"Homer Simpson is also a SOURCE of wisdom"
HughBe siad: "Son son, your man is saying that Simpson is THE source of wisdom. Sit in a corner and THINK, for a change."

Frijoles said: "Homer Simpson is also A source of wisdom".

Big contextual difference between "THE source" and "A source". You are being deceitful as usual. Jesus would not be proud of you.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48259 Jan 31, 2013
MONISM is far superior to MONOTHEISM and is nearer to the truth of existence but it has its own limitations in the ultimate stage of its reach.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48260 Jan 31, 2013
GAN-EDHEN & DILMUN:

Sumerian mythology, that is older than the Tanach, has a parallel to the Hebrew Gan-Edhen garden in Dilmun, the dwelling-place of the immortals where sickness and death are unknown.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48264 Jan 31, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---Jewish people dont accept Jesus as their personal saviors. That is Christianity, not Judaism.
HughBe--- It certainly is Christianity and not Judaism, so you are correct, for a change. However, I am still trying to understand how YOUR Satan became so dominant within you.
To say that Jewish people don't accept Jesus and to imply that they accept your religion is BS.
Learn and understand these facts.
1. Some Jewish people accept Jesus, the Jew, as their Messiah.
2. Many Jewish people embrace Judaism
3. Many Jewish people REJECT Judaism and I suspect that in the main the greater intelligence is in this group as opposed to your group/Judaism.
4. A significant number of Jews are into Easter religion and NOT Judaism.
rabbee: should i accept any lie, or liar as my messiah? and since the name jesus, is not the truth. would any one be justified, in rejecting the lie? even one lie is not acceptable, because it only leads to more lies. can all the liars, on these message boards ever tell the real truth here in TheTorah Happening today?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48265 Jan 31, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles, what you have demonstrated once again is that your religion teaches HATE.
Certainly the Jew who wrote the article in the Jerusalem Post is NOT a member of Judaism. How do I know this? It is a HONEST report. Had he been a blind DUMB sheep like you he would NEVER have written it.
God BLESS him ABUNDANTLY.
Finally, intelligence have REJECTED your religion. Only the deceived remain with it.
How long will the deception last?
Time will tell.
rabbee: all the liars in this world, are not going to save it. and no matter how good of a liar, you or they are. liars are not, your best friend.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48266 Jan 31, 2013
Text torturing yields nothing!
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48267 Jan 31, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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A Jew is a Jew is a Jew. However, Judaism as a religion does not regard Jesus as the Messiah. As I said earlier, they are still waiting for Messiah to return. Messianic Jews believe in Jesus as the Messiah. As confirmed by an actual Jew earlier (scroll up), it's not viewed as a branch of Judaism by those who actually practice the religion. However, I'm NOT a Jew so perhaps you should go ask one. I'm simply going by what I've read and what I've been told. Also I'm well aware of which Tree my branch of faith has grown from. I really don't need you to educate me on that fact.
rabbee: well who did G-D appoint as HaMosheeach, all TheOther Times G-D gave this same story for day seven of the phyical creation? or do you think, G-D is a liar? and that it is not, TheSame One as always? don't you believe G-D, here in TheTorah just again? there is not mystery, as to who is HaMosheeach. G-D let you all know well in advace, just who they both always are.

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