The Virgin Birth Theory Exposed and Debunked
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Since: May 13
#1 Jan 30, 2014
The New Testament Scriptures reflect that Christ is from the Seed or Lineage of David (as well as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Judah)
Question= How is there a physical connection from David (and subsequently the Fathers of Israel) to Christ as other Scriptures speak of (2nd Sam. 7:12; Psalms - 132:11; Is. 11:1-9) when Christ supposedly (According to Modern Christian Tradition) had no earthly father?
The man carries the seed or the lineage of his fathers. Physical lineage from David couldn’t come through Mary although some traditional Christian scholars try unsuccessfully to prove that Mary was from the House of David to give their Virgin Birth Theory some type of credibility.
Unfortunately there are no Scriptures that support the Virgin Birth Theory nor are there any scriptures that speaks of Mary’s lineage. Some traditional Christian scholars try to force a theory on the public that the description in Luke’s genealogy of Joseph (Lk. 3:23-38) is actually to be Mary's lineage, But this explanation defies logic and it defies and goes against what the ancient Hebrew Scholars have wrote in the past.
When we search the scriptures the only lineage information on Mary that we have is that she was somehow related to Elizabeth who was of the ‘daughters of Aaron’(Lk. 1:5, 36) This doesn’t make Mary of the House of Aaron or Levi as she could have been related by marriage and not by ‘blood.’ This still leaves us in the dark about Mary's lineage.
"THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth."-----(Lk. 1:5)
"And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren."-----(Lk. 1:36)
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Since: May 13
#2 Jan 30, 2014
The Virgin Birth Theory Exposed and Debunked part 2
The majority of theologians understands that Matthew and Luke’s genealogies speak of Joseph, not Mary, even though Matthew and Luke present different fathers for Joseph. That’s why some scholars want to place Mary into Luke’s genealogy. Julius Africanus(160-c. 240; the full name is Sextus Iulius Africanus) seems to reconcile the problem of the two different fathers for Joseph.
He states: The other letter is addressed to a certain Aristides. In it he proposes what is still the favourite explanation of the two pedigrees of our Lord (Matthew 1:2-19; Luke 3:23-38), namely that St. Joseph's two fathers, Jacob (Matthew 1:16) and Heli (Luke 3:23), were half-brothers of the same mother, that Heli died without children, and Jacob took his wife to raise up seed to his brother according to the Levitical law (Deuteronomy 25:5-6)------CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Julius Africanus - New Advent
God Called Joesph the Son Of David:
When Joesph was approached by the angel in (Matt 1-20) that was sent BY the Most High. The angel called Joesph The "SON OF DAVID" but there’s no mention of any lineage for Mary nor is she called "Son Of David"
"But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost"----MAtt 1:20
The Following Chapters and verses give us CLEAR understanding of the Lineage of Joesph From the Hebrew prophets:
Joseph House of David Scriptures
1) "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ."-----Matt 1:16
2) "To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary."----luke 1:27
3) "And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child."---luke 2-4-5
4) "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli"-----Luke 3-23
5) "Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;"-----Acts 2:29-30
Joseph and Mary were one flesh in God’s eyes. Mary, from whatever lineage she had been of, was now of the lineage of King David through her husband Joseph. That’s why it was essential for Joseph and Mary to have been betrothed before Gabriel came to Mary. Mary had become ‘one flesh’ with Joseph. Now the Child would be conceived and born under Joseph’s physical lineage.
#3 Jan 30, 2014
Why is the Virgin Birth hard to believe when any Doctor can Impregnate a Virgin with Artificial Insemination any day of the week?
No Big Deal......Jesus Christ is THE Son of the Living God........
Since: May 13
#4 Feb 4, 2014
Hello patriot I read your comment and I have a comment of my own
this is what you said
"Why is the Virgin Birth hard to believe when any Doctor can Impregnate a Virgin with Artificial Insemination any day of the week?"
My question to you Patriot did a doctor 2,000 yrs ago Impregnate Mary with Artificial Insemination?
#5 May 28, 2014
Mary and Joseph had not had sex until after she gave birth so Jesus could not be the son of Joseph noticed you didn't mention that scripture
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