Interesting Batesville History

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#1 Jun 11, 2011
Does anyone know any interesting stories of our town's past?

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#2 Jun 11, 2011
I've studied Batesville history for many years. I know so many stories that you'd have to be more specific. Go to the Independence County Regional Museum.
Did you know, John Ringold's house use to set where Marshalls fabic is now and when the house was tore down they used the bricks to build the current chamber of commerce.
Did you know, under the bank at the north end of main st is a civil war cemetery. When building began in the early 1900's they relocated the confederate graves, but left behind several unmarked Yankee graves.
The guy that build Ruddell Mill (Abraham Ruddell) was born in 1774 and was captured by indians at age 6. The indians took him to Kentucky and raised him as family. When he was grown he came back to Bateville where his family was. Him and his father Issac Ruddell fought side-by-side in the war of 1812. His father died in that war.
Did you know, There are several underground tunnels under main st some of which are still undocumented. I highly suspect a certain house on Water St. was used as a link in the underground railroad. Although the underground railroad wasn't thought to travel through the area. I think I when though Batesville and then east through the flat lands. They avoided going through the Ozark Mountains.
Did you know, during WW1 1000 Italian soldier were brought into Cushman to work the Manganese mine.
Did you know, there used to be a brothel called "spit corner" located at the corner of Main and Central ave. And the town square was located where the sale barn is on Main st.
I think I know where the original trading post was. Before Batesville was named Batesville, when it was a small village named poke bayou.

Myself I study pre-columbian history of Batesville. This land is rich with Native American history. If you interested in Native Americans I would be glad to show you the ropes. You'll find an arrowhead guaranteed, lol.
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Midland, TX

#3 Jun 11, 2011
Didn't the Landers used to be a burlesque?

Is there a cemetery on Eagle Mountain?

Any info on the motel/restaurant that used to be where McDonald's is now?

I've heard people talk about black stains on the cliffs overlooking White River. Were these stains really caused by decomposition in Native American graves?

Was there a hospital on Main Street? How long was it open? What's there now?
wow

Batesville, AR

#4 Jun 11, 2011
SomeDudeOnline wrote:
I've studied Batesville history for many years. I know so many stories that you'd have to be more specific. Go to the Independence County Regional Museum.
Did you know, John Ringold's house use to set where Marshalls fabic is now and when the house was tore down they used the bricks to build the current chamber of commerce.
Did you know, under the bank at the north end of main st is a civil war cemetery. When building began in the early 1900's they relocated the confederate graves, but left behind several unmarked Yankee graves.
The guy that build Ruddell Mill (Abraham Ruddell) was born in 1774 and was captured by indians at age 6. The indians took him to Kentucky and raised him as family. When he was grown he came back to Bateville where his family was. Him and his father Issac Ruddell fought side-by-side in the war of 1812. His father died in that war.
Did you know, There are several underground tunnels under main st some of which are still undocumented. I highly suspect a certain house on Water St. was used as a link in the underground railroad. Although the underground railroad wasn't thought to travel through the area. I think I when though Batesville and then east through the flat lands. They avoided going through the Ozark Mountains.
Did you know, during WW1 1000 Italian soldier were brought into Cushman to work the Manganese mine.
Did you know, there used to be a brothel called "spit corner" located at the corner of Main and Central ave. And the town square was located where the sale barn is on Main st.
I think I know where the original trading post was. Before Batesville was named Batesville, when it was a small village named poke bayou.
Myself I study pre-columbian history of Batesville. This land is rich with Native American history. If you interested in Native Americans I would be glad to show you the ropes. You'll find an arrowhead guaranteed, lol.
wow really underground tunnels?? that is interesting
wow

Batesville, AR

#5 Jun 11, 2011
guest wrote:
Didn't the Landers used to be a burlesque?
Is there a cemetery on Eagle Mountain?
Any info on the motel/restaurant that used to be where McDonald's is now?
I've heard people talk about black stains on the cliffs overlooking White River. Were these stains really caused by decomposition in Native American graves?
Was there a hospital on Main Street? How long was it open? What's there now?
there was a hospital as you start down main street called greys hospital and then there was one across from the dodge place its just an empty building now i think the mexicans get together there
wow

Batesville, AR

#6 Jun 11, 2011
This is very interesting would love to hear more stories
870bates

East Hanover, NJ

#7 Jun 11, 2011
Wish we were still Napoleon!
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United States

#8 Jun 11, 2011
There is a tunnel under the Garrett house on main st. It was occupied by both union and confederate troops during the civil war. There is actually journals in the library from the 1800s.
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#9 Jun 11, 2011
wow wrote:
<quoted text>there was a hospital as you start down main street called greys hospital and then there was one across from the dodge place its just an empty building now i think the mexicans get together there
The North Arkansas Clinic/Hospital was not located where you describe. It was located where the parking lot now sits at the corner of Broad and College Sts

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#10 Jun 11, 2011
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Didn't the Landers used to be a burlesque?
Is there a cemetery on Eagle Mountain?
Any info on the motel/restaurant that used to be where McDonald's is now?
I've heard people talk about black stains on the cliffs overlooking White River. Were these stains really caused by decomposition in Native American graves?
Was there a hospital on Main Street? How long was it open? What's there now?
There are Native American grave sites all over this area. There were more Indians in the area than the present day population. There are Mounds on Max, AR near Oil Through and some tucked away in the mountains just north of Batesville. The building where McDonalds is was Kelly Wyatts.

As for the tunnels, one specific tunnel is linked to the house on Water St. There is a false floor in the downstairs closet that connects to the tunnel. In the same house upstairs, there is a small opening in the corner of a closet. You can squeeze through the crack which leads behind the closet and eventually to a hidden room. The tunnel exits at the railroad tracks and poke bayou right next to Water St. This tunnel isn't linked to the network and it's not just a tunnel either. There a spring in there and a large open room, the tunnel lead out. The exit spot on the tracks is a mere 2ft in diameter opening. The house and the area below are of some significance, but I haven't quite figured it out. I know there were slaves in the area because there's a 15ft slave made water though at the museum. The water trough was found where the main branch of citizens banks sets.

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#11 Jun 11, 2011
I've always wondered what that big white 2 story building is on Broad St. It has some kind of weird sign outside, I've never stopped to read it.

Is it true that Lyon college used to be an orphanage that caught fire resulting in the deaths of many children? When you look up at Browns Chapel at night you can see the shadow of two kids holding hands.
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United States

#12 Jun 11, 2011
I was told where conagra is was at one time a big indian village until Hernando desoto came and slaughtered them. I may not be correct about Desoto but that's what I was told.
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United States

#13 Jun 11, 2011
SomeDudeOnline wrote:
I've always wondered what that big white 2 story building is on Broad St. It has some kind of weird sign outside, I've never stopped to read it.
Is it true that Lyon college used to be an orphanage that caught fire resulting in the deaths of many children? When you look up at Browns Chapel at night you can see the shadow of two kids holding hands.
it was an orphanage. Looks like there playing ring around the rosie.

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#14 Jun 11, 2011
Another interesting story, Pioneer cemetery located between Main St. and College St. This cemetery is only a fraction of the size it once was. Many graves and gravestones were relocated Oaklawn, however many graves were left behind and aren't marked. College St actually goes straight through the middle of the original cemetary and people are still buried below the sreet and surrounding buildings. Sad, but true.

There is a modern cemetery that has been completely forgot about. It is located next to North Heights Church. It is very sad, some of the graves are as recent as the early 1900's. It has grown wild for the last 50 years and you can't even tell its a cemetery anymore. There's at least 40 graves with head stones in the cemetery and there no telling who them people were.

If anybody has any information about the location of Abraham Ruddell's grave, it would be greatly appreciated.

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#15 Jun 11, 2011
history wrote:
<quoted text> it was an orphanage. Looks like there playing ring around the rosie.
Was there a fire where children died?

Speaking of "ring around the rosie", the song has a creepy history. It is referring to the Bubonic Plague outbreak in Europe that killed 1/3 of the population. The ring around the rosie is referring to the sores associated with flea bites that spread the disease. The pocket full of posies is referring to the fact they have to put flower pedals in there pocket to ward off the smell of the rotting bodies in the streets. And "we all fall down" is referring to their deaths.
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#16 Jun 11, 2011
SomeDudeOnline wrote:
Another interesting story, Pioneer cemetery located between Main St. and College St. This cemetery is only a fraction of the size it once was. Many graves and gravestones were relocated Oaklawn, however many graves were left behind and aren't marked. College St actually goes straight through the middle of the original cemetary and people are still buried below the sreet and surrounding buildings. Sad, but true.

There is a modern cemetery that has been completely forgot about. It is located next to North Heights Church. It is very sad, some of the graves are as recent as the early 1900's. It has grown wild for the last 50 years and you can't even tell its a cemetery anymore. There's at least 40 graves with head stones in the cemetery and there no telling who them people were.

If anybody has any information about the location of Abraham Ruddell's grave, it would be greatly appreciated.
http://explorestone.blogspot.com/2010/01/rudd...
history

United States

#17 Jun 11, 2011
SomeDudeOnline wrote:
<quoted text>
Was there a fire where children died?
Speaking of "ring around the rosie", the song has a creepy history. It is referring to the Bubonic Plague outbreak in Europe that killed 1/3 of the population. The ring around the rosie is referring to the sores associated with flea bites that spread the disease. The pocket full of posies is referring to the fact they have to put flower pedals in there pocket to ward off the smell of the rotting bodies in the streets. And "we all fall down" is referring to their deaths.
yes there was a fire.
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United States

#18 Jun 11, 2011
SomeDudeOnline wrote:
Another interesting story, Pioneer cemetery located between Main St. and College St. This cemetery is only a fraction of the size it once was. Many graves and gravestones were relocated Oaklawn, however many graves were left behind and aren't marked. College St actually goes straight through the middle of the original cemetary and people are still buried below the sreet and surrounding buildings. Sad, but true.

There is a modern cemetery that has been completely forgot about. It is located next to North Heights Church. It is very sad, some of the graves are as recent as the early 1900's. It has grown wild for the last 50 years and you can't even tell its a cemetery anymore. There's at least 40 graves with head stones in the cemetery and there no telling who them people were.

If anybody has any information about the location of Abraham Ruddell's grave, it would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.histopolis.com/Place/US/AR/Indepen...

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#19 Jun 11, 2011
history wrote:
I was told where conagra is was at one time a big indian village until Hernando desoto came and slaughtered them. I may not be correct about Desoto but that's what I was told.
When Desoto came through he came across a large woodland period village located at Greenbrier bottoms. Didn't he make two expeditions and when he came back the old village was gone and a new one had been established? It wouldn't surprise if a big village was located where con-agra is now. Desoto wouldn't have had the manpower to slaughter these villages, the villages had tens of 1000's including massive war parties. I think he crossed the White River closer to Cushman. There was a guy that found a 16th century Spanish Conquistador helmet in a cave near Cushman (not blowing cave).

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#20 Jun 11, 2011
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Thanks Bunches. So are you sure he is buried in that cemetery? According to the picture it is right next to the tracks, however according to the map it is by the bridge next to someones driveway/house. Is this place open to the public? What would be the easiest way to get there without getting shot or arrested for trespassing? I just want to take my digital camera and take some pictures.

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