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bobby

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#21 May 13, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>I worship God not a man that is suppose to know God more than any one yet he makes mistake after mistake, denies sin in his own group, thinks he has the power to forgive sin indirect opposition of God. You claim a book that does not even list your group and then claim it is worthless for man to read because your suggest ignorance. By the way God Did excuse ignorance once yet the book that you claim your wrote said that that time was past when the book was written and demanded repentance. How do you think your group would write such a thing and then say ooops nobody can read??? not that a hoot. You fall back on a historical argument that shows your group didn t exist until they decided to not follow the written word and the spoken words of Apostles. Now get your history book and figure your time table out.
The difference between catholics and the rest of us is that that their book (history of their tradition) is more valuable to them than scripture. This alone is their Achilles heel.

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#22 May 13, 2014
bobby wrote:
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The difference between catholics and the rest of us is that that their book (history of their tradition) is more valuable to them than scripture. This alone is their Achilles heel.
You know you are reading a Catholic book don't you. Next time you pick one up, remember that.

The Catholic Church has as its sole rule of faith, the entire Word of God, as it is found in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

All of the Word of God was at one time passed on orally…Sacred Tradition. Eventually, some of Sacred Tradition was written down…this became Sacred Scripture, which is written tradition. However, Scripture itself tells us that not all of the things that Jesus said and did were written down. And listen to what Paul says about “tradition”:

2 Thes 2:15,“So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” Traditions! Traditions taught by word of mouth, in other words, oral tradition, and traditions taught by letter. Traditions which they are being told to “stand firm and hold to”. Sacred Scripture and

1 Cor 11:2,“I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.” The Corinthians are being commended by Paul because they maintain the traditions that he passed on to them. Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

2 Tim 2:2:“and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” What we have here in 2 Timothy is an instance, in Scripture, of Paul commanding the passing on of oral tradition.

1 Thes 2:13,“And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the Word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the Word of God, which is at work in you believers.” So, they received as the Word of God that which they heard, not simply that which they read in Scripture.

In other words, the Bible clearly supports the Catholic Church’s teaching that the Word of God is contained in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.

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#23 May 13, 2014
bobby wrote:
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The difference between catholics and the rest of us is that that their book (history of their tradition) is more valuable to them than scripture. This alone is their Achilles heel.
Your Achilles heel is yourself . Because of Sola Scriptura you think that 1600 years after the Bible was created, you can read a Catholic book and become your own Pope.

Pope bobby: One of millions each believing their reading of that Catholic book is the truth.

You have a one in 40,000 chance of being right. That is how man non Catholic communities there are out there growing each day.

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#24 May 13, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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Your Achilles heel is yourself . Because of Sola Scriptura you think that 1600 years after the Bible was created, you can read a Catholic book and become your own Pope.
Pope bobby: One of millions each believing their reading of that Catholic book is the truth.
You have a one in 40,000 chance of being right. That is how man non Catholic communities there are out there growing each day.
Remind us how this Catholic book did not name the Catholic church or claim popes. Go ahead tell us why they didnt include it. Surely you can find it in the history books.

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#25 May 13, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Remind us how this Catholic book did not name the Catholic church or claim popes. Go ahead tell us why they didnt include it. Surely you can find it in the history books.
When there is only one Church why do you have to name it.

The Church mentioned in the Bible is the one Jesus started. Only one. Called the Church

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#26 May 13, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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When there is only one Church why do you have to name it.
The Church mentioned in the Bible is the one Jesus started. Only one. Called the Church
I didnt name it Christ did, however your boys did give it a non biblical name, the Catholic church.
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#27 May 13, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text> I didnt name it Christ did, however your boys did give it a non biblical name, the Catholic church.
I think this is a poor argument because there are many names in scripture attributed to the church. It bothers me some, having a coc background. I know that the argument seems to center on a name and not necessarily a people. It comes from trying to out smart the catholics at their own game which i believe is an arrogant position from any who claim to be the only true church.

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#28 May 14, 2014
bobby wrote:
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I think this is a poor argument because there are many names in scripture attributed to the church. It bothers me some, having a coc background. I know that the argument seems to center on a name and not necessarily a people. It comes from trying to out smart the catholics at their own game which i believe is an arrogant position from any who claim to be the only true church.
Its not a poor argument sorry to disagree. Christ said himself upon the rock of faith he would build HIS church. So why would man want to identify HIS church by the Name Catholic or Baptist, or Methodist, or anything other than His Name? There are many descriptions given in the bible of His church, The body, the family, the church, the kingdom the flock all of which are found in the bible and I believe those are also singular. Im sure you dont want your identity to be the Catholic church now do you Bobby. How about your identity being the church of Christ, church of God? Surely you dont find fault in that.
bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#29 May 14, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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You know you are reading a Catholic book don't you. Next time you pick one up, remember that.
The Catholic Church has as its sole rule of faith, the entire Word of God, as it is found in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
All of the Word of God was at one time passed on orally…Sacred Tradition. Eventually, some of Sacred Tradition was written down…this became Sacred Scripture, which is written tradition. However, Scripture itself tells us that not all of the things that Jesus said and did were written down. And listen to what Paul says about “tradition”:
2 Thes 2:15,“So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.” Traditions! Traditions taught by word of mouth, in other words, oral tradition, and traditions taught by letter. Traditions which they are being told to “stand firm and hold to”. Sacred Scripture and
1 Cor 11:2,“I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you.” The Corinthians are being commended by Paul because they maintain the traditions that he passed on to them. Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
2 Tim 2:2:“and what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.” What we have here in 2 Timothy is an instance, in Scripture, of Paul commanding the passing on of oral tradition.
1 Thes 2:13,“And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the Word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the Word of God, which is at work in you believers.” So, they received as the Word of God that which they heard, not simply that which they read in Scripture.
In other words, the Bible clearly supports the Catholic Church’s teaching that the Word of God is contained in both Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition.
Many traditions are good, we have some in our church, but we do not bind them to others as though they came from the mouth of God. I deny your take on the bible, the book is a collections of scripture given by God. Catholics do not own the scripture. You guys are mere men. There is no such thing as sacred tradition it is not inspired scripture-it is a man made idea from the start. That would be like taking writings from Josephus and calling them sacred tradition because it came from the right time frame.

1 Corinthians 11:18
In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it.
Paul is speaking this well before the bible was canonized. All of the old testament is in the bible to and that scripture was also written before there was ever a catholic.

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#30 May 19, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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When there is only one Church why do you have to name it.
The Church mentioned in the Bible is the one Jesus started. Only one. Called the Church
In your catholic book would you list all the descriptions and names given for the church of the first century.

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#31 May 19, 2014
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>In your catholic book would you list all the descriptions and names given for the church of the first century.

There was only one. The Church. Then they also included the name of area they were on. The Church at Corinth. Those are now what is called Dioceses.

Later in the first century they named it the Universal Church.

When travelers went into a town and see it they would ask where is the Church. Only one for 1500 years.

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#32 May 20, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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There was only one. The Church. Then they also included the name of area they were on. The Church at Corinth. Those are now what is called Dioceses.
Later in the first century they named it the Universal Church.
When travelers went into a town and see it they would ask where is the Church. Only one for 1500 years.
Nope thats not all the descriptive names of the church might want to ask the pope or some priest or the RCC since you cant find those.

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