Have Johnny Robertson and his COC been defeated?

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Whitman

Montvale, VA

#1 Jan 18, 2013
All the churches controlled by Johnny Robertson, his cousin James Oldfield and rest of their family are losing members and not bringing in new ones.

No one now watching and being talked to by Johnny's cult is going into his Churches Of Christ. I saw 4 people baptized in a Baptist church in Franklin County last month. That is more than Martinsville Church Of Christ baptized last year I bet!

4-5 hours on tv a week and no one is being convinced, persuaded to join Johnny's family-run churches. All that $$$$ wasted.

Johnny, James, Mark, Micah and rest have been run off Topix and won't debate/discuss where everyone has fair playing field.

Johnny, James, Mark, Micah are now too afraid to go into more Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal etc churches with their video cameras and load of lies.

I haven't seen new footage from them have you? Johnny and his cult show only old footage from years past even on their programs.

Most COC programs lately are reruns. Fewer live shows.

No new Youtube videos. Because they have nothing new to put on Youtube.

None of Johnny-run Churches Of Christ have websites, blogs etc and if they have they haven't been updated in 2-3 years.

Johnny spending time way out of Martinsville area in Greenville NC instead. HMMMMMM

Desperate Johnny running commercials with him in casket, acting like whining child about Bob Lawson and Chris Knight and BTW, and nothing about God or Jesus or Christianity.

Johnny Robertson, James Oldfield, Mark McMinnis, Micah Robertson aren't winning. They are losing. Losing bad.

People stood up to them and its all on the Internet for everyone to see.

Johnny Robertson and HIS ChurchES Of Christ have been defeated destroyed.

Nothing they can do now. But keep being desperate and deluded.

Johnny Robertson is beaten.
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#2 Jan 20, 2013
10-15 years being in Collinsville/Martinsville and Johnny Robertson has not broken up 1 single church.

All that TV time, tents, money spent and more churches than ever in Martinsville area. In Reidsville and Danville and Eden too. But no growth in Johnny and James Church Of Christ!!!!

Lots of people have joined their Church Of Christ then realize Johnny is a cultleader and then they leave. 1 person I know left COC and then was baptized inside a Baptist church so their baptism would be to please God not to please a man.

Johnny, James, Mark, Micah: show us where your Church Of Christ has done anything good in all the time you have been in our town from Texas.
Whitman

Montvale, VA

#3 Jan 20, 2013
Johnny on tv tonight again once again not live. It's recording. Too scared to get phone calls Johnny????

Johnny isn't preaching Christ in Martinsville Church Of Christ this morning. He's preaching conspiracy theory! Ridiculous diagram showing denominations that conspire against his Church Of Christ. The COC without elders in the congregations.

Cults don't preach Jesus Christ. They preach about themselves. Johnny tonight as always preaching himself and being paranoid about everyone else. Complaining about churches of Christ that don't want anything to do with him and his cult, saying they aren't helping with his work. Real churches of Christ are growing. Yes the real churches of Christ are growing with Baptists, Methodists and others. But Johnny Robertson's Martinsville Church Of Christ and other churches he controls are dwindling.
Walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#4 Jan 31, 2013
The one thing that has struck me as a clear sign of needing profession help is the entire system of we are the oppressed church and to prove it we will go out and try and destroy other churches who then react to protect themselves.

This is some kind of surreal version of the "Blue's Brothers on a mission of God" combined with Monty Python's "Help Help I'm being repressed, see the violence inherent in the system, did you see that did you see him repressing me" scene.

This entire bill of goods of how we are all the oppressed church because other denominations react to our attacks has clear patterns of the following:

From the web:

Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. Paranoid individuals are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other evidence.

They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their reduced capacity for meaningful emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience. People with this particular disorder may or may not have a tendency to bear grudges, suspiciousness, tendency to interpret others' actions as hostile, persistent tendency to self-reference, or a tenacious sense of personal right.

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#5 Jan 31, 2013
Walkinginlove wrote:
The one thing that has struck me as a clear sign of needing profession help is the entire system of we are the oppressed church and to prove it we will go out and try and destroy other churches who then react to protect themselves.
This is some kind of surreal version of the "Blue's Brothers on a mission of God" combined with Monty Python's "Help Help I'm being repressed, see the violence inherent in the system, did you see that did you see him repressing me" scene.
This entire bill of goods of how we are all the oppressed church because other denominations react to our attacks has clear patterns of the following:
From the web:
Paranoid personality disorder is a mental disorder characterized by paranoia and a pervasive, long-standing suspiciousness and generalized mistrust of others. Individuals with this personality disorder may be hypersensitive, easily feel slighted, and habitually relate to the world by vigilant scanning of the environment for clues or suggestions that may validate their fears or biases. Paranoid individuals are eager observers. They think they are in danger and look for signs and threats of that danger, potentially not appreciating other evidence.
They tend to be guarded and suspicious and have quite constricted emotional lives. Their reduced capacity for meaningful emotional involvement and the general pattern of isolated withdrawal often lend a quality of schizoid isolation to their life experience. People with this particular disorder may or may not have a tendency to bear grudges, suspiciousness, tendency to interpret others' actions as hostile, persistent tendency to self-reference, or a tenacious sense of personal right.
Now this is funny.

You do realize what your looking like by making these accusations dont you? Hint Hint look at the last parts of all three gospels.

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#6 Jan 31, 2013
Maybe even all four gospels sorry I was overwhelmed by the similarities of those speaking about Jesus.
Walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#7 Feb 1, 2013
Yes I see example after example of blue dots covering children's private areas while Paul and Peter make references to kiddy porn.

What does the first Century Church have to do with that? Or other actions of the Johnny Robertson sect of the Churches of Christ denomination?
Media 000

Higginsville, MO

#9 Mar 15, 2013
Sorry that should read you can't defeat the coC according to Daniel 2:44-45

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#10 Mar 19, 2013
Things aren't looking good for Johnny Robertson at the moment. Yes, I would say his band of followers has been defeated. They have been broken and the longer he denies it the worse he is going to look. Johnny Robertson is a wounded animal lashing at anyone coming near him. He spends more time trying to be a celebrity on Headliners than he is being a preacher. Last week a little girl ran all over him on the show. Johnny attacked the little girl with his own airtime instead of attacking churches. He's a wounded animal desperate and lashing out. He knows he's not the man of influence and authority that he thought he was. Now he begins to see that no one in the community trusted or respected him. Now he sees that for all his pride, he has been the laughingstock the entire time.

Johnny, Mark and James aren't intruding on worship services any more. Everyone is wise to them now. Everyone is wise to the games Johnny and Charles Roark are playing with south side Virginia. Johnny, Mark and James are running scared. I think what has gone on with the Internet is a big reason why. All the blogs and reports about them have made them easy to read up about. Mark tried to shut down Bridgetown Church on their first day of worship services. Mark did it because he's got nobody to listen to him at Danville Church of Christ, so he went to Bridgetown to try and start an argument. He left in a huff because nobody would bite. Everyone in Danville knows about Mark Mcminnis and he's not going to be allowed to interfere with real worship any longer. Bridgetown Church is growing and growing. Johnny Robertson's family dominated Churches of Christ are losing and losing. It's like they aren't even trying anymore.

Johnny is doing fewer and fewer live shows on WGSR. Most now are reruns from far as 2007. He's not discussing on Topix though he used to talk about it all the time. His last few tent meetings had no advertising to make a difference. He's running out of members, out of intimidation, out of money and out of steam.

I hear that Johnny is making ready to leave. He spends more time in Rocky Mount NC than he does here. Rocky Mount is a long way off. It looks like nobody here is listening to his message so he's going to leave town.

Yes, he and the Churches of Christ he controls unscripturally have been beaten and broken. That scares Charles because Johnny pays all that money to WGSR and the station has lost sponsors because of Johnny and other incidents. Give it time and you'll see Johnny Robertson and everything associated with him be just a bad memory going away fast.
joe blue

United States

#11 Mar 19, 2013
I would have to agree with you. Just do a search engine on you browser and many lead to Topix and other blogs. Whoever come up with putting his name out in the blog world revealed to many the evil ways of Mr. Robertson. Johnnys cult has been brought to the light. He does not represent the church of Jesus Christ.

Since: Jul 11

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#12 Mar 20, 2013
I have to split hairs here a bit with the statement above. I'm not taking Johnny's side of anyone for that matter but to say he has been defeated is not accurate at all. Johnny has around 70 members at Martinsville Church of Christ and has sent his sons to Memphis Preaching School to better equip themselves in matters of faith. Preachers of other denominations have changed their beliefs and were rebaptized and now believe as the Church of Christ. He has spread the Church of Christ out of the area of Martinsville with new meeting places plus has used TV as a means to reach people beyond Martinsville and has a YouTube channel that seems to be getting lots of hits. Having said all of that I do believe however that those who are hardliners like him and others are fading away and his efforts will not make much of a difference in the end.

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#13 Mar 20, 2013
If there are 70 members at Martinsville Church of Christ then how many members are there in Danville and Eden at the Churches of Christ in those towns?

It is my understanding that many of the Martinsville Church of Christ are Johnny's own family.

I've seen his Youtube channel. It isn't too active. It used to be but it has slacked off along with everything else. The only videos on it are attacks and snide comments about other people. Nothing about the love of God, the mercy of God, about Christ. The videos he has in his channel scare people away from the Church of Christ more than they persuade them to stay.

No one watches Johnny to hear his teaching. People watch Johnny to laugh at him. If his teaching was true and based in truth then people would be getting baptized into the Church of Christ. Why are preachers getting rebaptized? If they were baptized once before then that's enough. Baptism is baptism. Water is water. No difference between a Baptist baptism and a Church of Christ baptism.

I'm told that of the preachers who were baptized by Johnny, some of them have already left him. There is one in Rocky Mount and that is where Johnny keeps going and going.

If Johnny, Mark, James and their "church" have not been defeated they certainly have been broken. They aren't a threat to anyone. They are no longer the intimidators. They are now the intimidated.

Since: Jul 11

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#14 Mar 20, 2013
I haven't looked at hIs YouTube videos in awhile so you may be correct. I don't think he has 70 people in his immediate family; most of them are not kin to him. That was years ago, It could be more or less than 70 by now.

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Germantown, TN

#15 Mar 20, 2013
Olethros wrote:
If there are 70 members at Martinsville Church of Christ then how many members are there in Danville and Eden at the Churches of Christ in those towns?
It is my understanding that many of the Martinsville Church of Christ are Johnny's own family.
I've seen his Youtube channel. It isn't too active. It used to be but it has slacked off along with everything else. The only videos on it are attacks and snide comments about other people. Nothing about the love of God, the mercy of God, about Christ. The videos he has in his channel scare people away from the Church of Christ more than they persuade them to stay.
No one watches Johnny to hear his teaching. People watch Johnny to laugh at him. If his teaching was true and based in truth then people would be getting baptized into the Church of Christ. Why are preachers getting rebaptized? If they were baptized once before then that's enough. Baptism is baptism. Water is water. No difference between a Baptist baptism and a Church of Christ baptism.
I'm told that of the preachers who were baptized by Johnny, some of them have already left him. There is one in Rocky Mount and that is where Johnny keeps going and going.
If Johnny, Mark, James and their "church" have not been defeated they certainly have been broken. They aren't a threat to anyone. They are no longer the intimidators. They are now the intimidated.
Johnny's family makes up the church in Martinsville? Do you all get any kind of proof on anything?

Nobody is saying follow Johnny we are saying follow Christ and Christ's baptism was far from a baptist baptism.

Christ's salvation consists of belief AND baptism in order to be saved, if not you will be damned.(Mark 16:16)
A baptist says salvation comes on the point of belief... "Baptism, therefore, is an act of obedience, But it possesses no power in itself to remit sin, to change the heart, or to sanctify the spirit." ( Hiscox standard baptist manual P. 84) DIFFERENT.

Christ's baptism added to the church.(Acts 2:41,47)

Baptist denomination adds by a voting committee... "Each new member must be admitted by the free and voluntary consent and approval of those already members, usually expressed by formal vote." ( Hiscox's P. 36).

That's not at all Biblical? It's man made. Christ knew men would go against him.(John 6:64)

Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?(Galatians 4:16)

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#16 Mar 20, 2013
James Oldfield is Johnny's cousin. James controls Eden Church of Christ if there is anyone but James there to start with. Micah is considered the leader of Danville Church of Christ but Mark Mcminnis does whatever Johnny and James tell him to do.

One family has 3 churches under their thumb. There are no elders in any of them though the Bible instructs there to be elders. Johnny says it's because nobody has been found to qualify as an elder.

Johnny has been in this area for over 15 years. He is either a very bad gospel preacher and his preaching hasn't produced good fruit or he doesn't want elders over him. He was fired from Collinsville Church of Christ by the elders there so that says something.

How is a baptism in a Baptist church different from a baptism in a Church of Christ? If a person is a believer in Christ then he can be baptized. What difference does it make where it happens? A baptism in a Baptist church or any other church would please God as much as a baptism in a Church of Christ.

JesusCreed, it was about 70 a few years ago but most of those have fled Johnny's control. It is now about 20 and it may be less than that. I know that the Churches of Christ in Danville and Eden are empty as tombs.
Whitman

Martinsville, VA

#17 Mar 21, 2013
since every comment I make is being deleted I am moving on up the highway. every time I say something about crnys and john Robert son they delete my comemnts on here so I guees I am out and gone for good but I will be riding by the tents and making notes

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#18 Mar 21, 2013
Olethros wrote:
James Oldfield is Johnny's cousin. James controls Eden Church of Christ if there is anyone but James there to start with. Micah is considered the leader of Danville Church of Christ but Mark Mcminnis does whatever Johnny and James tell him to do.
One family has 3 churches under their thumb. There are no elders in any of them though the Bible instructs there to be elders. Johnny says it's because nobody has been found to qualify as an elder.
Johnny has been in this area for over 15 years. He is either a very bad gospel preacher and his preaching hasn't produced good fruit or he doesn't want elders over him. He was fired from Collinsville Church of Christ by the elders there so that says something.
How is a baptism in a Baptist church different from a baptism in a Church of Christ? If a person is a believer in Christ then he can be baptized. What difference does it make where it happens? A baptism in a Baptist church or any other church would please God as much as a baptism in a Church of Christ.
JesusCreed, it was about 70 a few years ago but most of those have fled Johnny's control. It is now about 20 and it may be less than that. I know that the Churches of Christ in Danville and Eden are empty as tombs.
Far as James and Johnny being cousins … that’s a first for me. To my knowledge that isn’t true. You stated that Micah is the “leader” of Danville church of Christ yet he and his brother are attending preaching school which would make it hard to LEAD at Danville.

The Elder issue is one of validity. It seems likely that Elders could have been appointed by now but I could be wrong. Perhaps there are men there not desiring that role or do not meet the qualifications.

I only know from the period I attended there, it was around 70 on the membership. I have no idea how many attend there now but think your number is probably not accurate.

It doesn’t matter “where” one is baptized. However, the Bible teaches that Baptism is essential - for the purpose to receive remission of sins.

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#19 Mar 21, 2013
Whitman wrote:
since every comment I make is being deleted I am moving on up the highway. every time I say something about crnys and john Robert son they delete my comemnts on here so I guees I am out and gone for good but I will be riding by the tents and making notes
How do you delete others comments on topix. That must be why nobody agrees with me on things....:) You guys quit deleting my stuff.... now thats funny Whitman

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#20 Mar 21, 2013
JesusCreed wrote:
<quoted text>It doesn’t matter “where” one is baptized. However, the Bible teaches that Baptism is essential - for the purpose to receive remission of sins.
Okay what is the difference between baptism in a Church of Christ and baptism in a Baptist church?

A person is being baptized with water in both. So both baptisms are biblical. Can't see how one is more or less than the other.
johnny

Kings Mountain, NC

#21 Mar 21, 2013
answer? Col 2:12...the person taught by a gospel preacher will teach the sinner that God is going to do something for the penitent person. It is refered to as what God did for Jesus. Rom 6:3-4 also informs one that you are being moved INTO Christ. We all know what that means. New creature in Christ 2Cor 5:17. This why Paul submitted to Annanias command in Act 22:16 even after prayinng for three days. He knew he was still in his sins until he was worked on by God in immersion in the name of Jesus. A Baptist on the other hand doers not even believe it essential to be immersed. I guess a Baptist church is not essential??? It was nt bought by blood we all know that. Jesus never even told anyone to tell others of it. Now that is a very important point my friends. Notice, if it is important, then Paul or other Apostle would insist upon it being commited to others so they could teach it. 2Tim 2:2 says this. The things they had heard Paul were to be taught to others so they could teach others. Kinda like what paul said about the Lords Supper in 1Cor 11:23... he received it from the Lord and he taught them. Ask yourself, where did the Baptist church come from if not from Jesus down to any of the apostles? Why is it being commited to people as if it has Jesus name associated with it. People on TV tell me that it does not matter which church you are in. Well I guess that is true if YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE TRUE ONE> All the others are pretty much the same. Man Made is not really a matter to argue over. They are all worth about the same. Brian Edwaeds said it best. "absolutely not essential"

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