Saul{Paul}: Saved before Baptism

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TheTruth

Martinsville, VA

#1 Dec 9, 2011
If you'll read Acts chapters 9, 22 and 26, you'll get the full picture of what happened with Saul and Ananias. A VERY IMPORTANT verse relevant to the proper understanding of Acts 22:16 is ACTS 9:17. This verse tells us WHY the Lord Jesus sent Ananias to Saul (Paul)! Ananias said, "... Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost." Therefore, the twofold purpose the Lord sent Ananias to Saul was:

(1) So he would receive his physical eyesight and
(2) Get filled with the Holy Ghost.

The point is: JESUS NEVER SENT ANANIAS TO HIS "CHOSEN VESSEL" TO GET HIM SAVED! He was already saved! IF Saul still needed to get saved when Jesus was informing Ananias what to do, He certainly would have known it and would have put that on the top of Ananias' list! However, Jesus NEVER EVEN INDIRECTLY MENTIONED SUCH as He sent Ananias forth! Can YOU see this?

Also, when one is sent to another to get him filled with the Holy Ghost, as Ananias was sent, the person to be filled is ALWAYS A CHRISTIAN ALREADY (Acts 8:14-17)! These verses report that the Apostles in Jerusalem sent Peter and John to those in Samaria, WHO WERE ALREADY SAVED, so they might receive the Holy Ghost!

Now get this: something very important that Paul stated about the Gospel, "For I neither received it of man (including Ananias), neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ," Gal. 1:12. What! You mean you didn’t receive it by Ananias, Paul? Nope!!! If Paul learned the Gospel (the plan of salvation) from Ananias, which would be the case IF Acts 22:16 means as certain groups interpret it, then Paul could have NEVER said this!

Finally, related to Saul's conversion on the Damascus road is Acts 26:17,18. When compared to 1 Cor. 1:17, this combination is devastating to those who think water baptism plays some role in our salvation!
TheTruth

Martinsville, VA

#2 Dec 9, 2011
"Now get this: something very important that Paul stated about the Gospel, "For I neither received it of man (including Ananias), neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ," Gal. 1:12. What! You mean you didn’t receive it by Ananias, Paul? Nope!!! If Paul learned the Gospel (the plan of salvation) from Ananias, which would be the case IF Acts 22:16 means as certain groups interpret it, then Paul could have NEVER said this!"

H E L L O

Waiting on someone to address this. Where did Saul hear the Gospel? Who saved Saul?

H E L L O
Barnsweb

Newman, CA

#3 Dec 11, 2011
Uh, HELLO, you failed to mention Acts 9:6, where Jesus tells Paul 'Arisee and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.' And the Lord told Ananias 'Arise and go to the street called Straight, and inquire at the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus, for hebhold, he is praying. And in a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming in and putting his hand on him, so that he might receive his sight.' and 'Go,k for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. For I will show him how many things he must suffer form My name's sake.'

Then Acts 22:12-16 gives us more details, and provides this gem:'Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.'

Why was Paul also baptized as those in Acts 2, for the very same reason?

HELLO!!!:-)

And how is it Paul wrote chapter 6 in Romans?

HELLO!!!:-)
steve

Columbus, IN

#4 Aug 31, 2013
VAIN ATTEMPTS TO DISCREDIT GOD'S WORD ABOUT SALVATION

Mark 16:16 "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.(NKJV)

Critics claim that since Jesus did not say he who is not baptized will be condemned; therefore water baptism is not essential to be saved. If a heart surgeon told you that if you have a heart transplant you will live; he would not have to explain to you that if you refuse the heart transplant you will die. Negatives are understood. If the electric power company informs you if you pay your bill the power will be turned back on; you do not have to be informed that if you do not pay your overdue bill the power will not be restored. Negatives are understood.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.(NKJV)

The apostle Peter did not have to say unless you repent and are baptized your sins will not be forgiven. Negatives are understood.

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Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#5 Sep 4, 2013
Well, if this post doesn't show that I wasn't seeing the error of Paul, which past post would better do so?;-)

This first post proves well proves the point of the extent we can go to uphold Paul as true, when he obviously wasn't. How one can say someone who was going around supporting killing Jewish Christians (disciples of Jesus) was saved while a murderer is beyond imagination to the point of spiritual depravity of truth and sense.

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