Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#107 Sep 22, 2013
Roman Catholic Sproul wrote:
<quoted text>You have never asked me that question, no time that I recall anyway. I don't do the Catholic dodge when I am asked a question that I may not have an answer for. One thing we know is your false interpretation of that scripture will not apply because there is no Roman Catholic church at this time. We should note that the eunuch never asked Philip where the closest Catholic church was. Another great big ole Catholic irony is your comment in the first three sentences of this post saying you will not post scripture and then the audacity to post scripture in sentence seven. Very typical of Catholics. But you see the bible does actually teach. It was not complete at this time and the eunuch never understood who it was talking of. We do have the eunuchs question answered in scripture now do we not? A personnel observation of my own that a pedophile priest was not sent for the purpose of explaining this to the eunuch from a church with a "Sin is In" leader.
There has never been a Roman Catholic Church. There is the Diocese of Rome of the Catholic Church of which the Pope is the Bishop.

The Creed says I believe in One, Holy, Catholic Church.

Phillip was part of the Church. He was ordained by the Apostles.

Roman Catholic Sproul

Chicago, IL

#108 Sep 22, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
There has never been a Roman Catholic Church. There is the Diocese of Rome of the Catholic Church of which the Pope is the Bishop.
The Creed says I believe in One, Holy, Catholic Church.
Phillip was part of the Church. He was ordained by the Apostles.
Sorry that was written long after the apostles were gone. Philip and the eunuch had never heard of it.Most likely it was written by the Catholic renegades as part of their power grab.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#109 Sep 22, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
Mike, who teaches you?
One teaching of Jesus is that He alone is to be our Teacher - and this was said to the twelve apostles. Do you think Jesus taught them the truth? Did Jesus reveal to his disciples what their Scriptures said about Him? Did Jesus teach them how the power of forgiveness sets them free and gives them the power to become the sons of God they were meant to be?
If He taught them, and they recorded those same teachings for us - don't you think we are capable to hear Him and also learn the truth of the very Word of God?
We can help each other learn. We can teach our children to know God and what He has declared to be good or evil.
How can any Church 'teach' the truth of the Doctrine of God unless they show they believe and do as He said?
Now go find a Church that abides in His word. Until you find one, you should spend more time studying His words that were given to turn you away from following those who disobey God.
I found that the Church many years ago. It is plain sight.

Everything you claim to be true comes from a book. You have thrown out over half of that book, but the rest is true to you? Why?

You were not there 2,000 years ago. Only the Church was there. The church verifies what you read today is true and what traditions are true.

It all comes down to Authority. You claim your own Authority. You claim what you read is true based on your Authority.

But you have no proof what you read has any truth to it at all.

You have accepted what others have said about it. Blind Faith.

Unfortunately for you, you have not chosen wisely on which people to follow.
Roman Catholic Sproul

Chicago, IL

#110 Sep 22, 2013
Have a great big ole catholic day Mike. Enlighten yourself with a protestant teachings of your choice.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#111 Sep 22, 2013
Roman Catholic Sproul wrote:
Have a great big ole catholic day Mike. Enlighten yourself with a protestant teachings of your choice.
It's hard to choose from 40,000 +.

I will say a special Hail Mary for you today right after I recieve the body and blood of Jesus, just like he commanded us to.

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#112 Sep 22, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's hard to choose from 40,000 +.
I will say a special Hail Mary for you today right after I recieve the body and blood of Jesus, just like he commanded us to.
Ever hear of "paedocommunion?" Is it in the Bible?
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#113 Sep 22, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>
Ever hear of "paedocommunion?" Is it in the Bible?
It appears to have occurred in the early Church and some Orthodox still do.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#114 Sep 22, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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It appears to have occurred in the early Church and some Orthodox still do.
Looks like it is practiced by the Sproul clan.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#115 Sep 22, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
I found that the Church many years ago. It is plain sight.
Everything you claim to be true comes from a book. You have thrown out over half of that book, but the rest is true to you? Why?
You were not there 2,000 years ago. Only the Church was there. The church verifies what you read today is true and what traditions are true.
It all comes down to Authority. You claim your own Authority. You claim what you read is true based on your Authority.
But you have no proof what you read has any truth to it at all.
You have accepted what others have said about it. Blind Faith.
Unfortunately for you, you have not chosen wisely on which people to follow.
We've had exchanges in the past where a number of issues were brought up about the RCC. I'm not saying there aren't issues with CoC or anyone else, as the discussions witness to. First, what happened 2000 years ago has been testified to us, just as what happened at creation or the flood or the giving of the promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the fulfillment of those things in Jesus Christ and by Jesus Christ, the Father and the Holy Spirit.

I make no claim to any authority but that God is the authority and no man. Even with the Apostles, Jesus didn't put one in charge, but said they were all equal. That means the authority resides now in Jesus Christ, since He claimed that all authority is now under Him till certain things happen.

That the RCC puts authority in men, particularly Popes of their Church, shows they deny the authority of God. When a Pope speaks from the chair of authority, they falsely believe they have the authority to bind what they declare upon God.

That's backwards, whether you realize it at this time or not.

All authority resides in Christ and our duty is to obey Him and no man. No apostle could properly speak anything contrary and not in complete accord with the words God commanded Jesus to teach.

No man can have two masters - that's what Jesus said. If your Pope says you have to believe that this or that sin that is considered 'politically correct' to accept now - do you think this means anything to God that He has to go back on what He has declared true for almost 3500 years?!

I don't.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#116 Sep 22, 2013
ROMAN Catholic Sproul

France

#117 Sep 22, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
That the RCC puts authority in men, particularly Popes of their Church, shows they deny the authority of God. When a Pope speaks from the chair of authority, they falsely believe they have the authority to bind what they declare upon God.
I thought this was an interesting comment, it's the same thing you are saying.
Spiros Zodhiates TH.D.
The church here is the body of believers themselves. We as believers can never make conclusive decisions about things, but can only confirm those decisions which have already been made by the King himself as conclusive in the general context of his Kingdom both on earth and in heaven. See Mt 18:18 where the same two verbs "bind" and"loose," are said to be possessed by all the disciples. See also Jn.20:13. The two verbs dedemenon and lelumeonon are both perfect passive particles which should have been translated respectively as "having been bound " and "as having been loosed' already in the heavens. Believers on earth can only confirm what has already taken place in heaven.
ROMAN Catholic Sproul

France

#118 Sep 22, 2013
I thought I would throw that out there for Mark to drool over.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#119 Sep 23, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
We've had exchanges in the past where a number of issues were brought up about the RCC. I'm not saying there aren't issues with CoC or anyone else, as the discussions witness to. First, what happened 2000 years ago has been testified to us, just as what happened at creation or the flood or the giving of the promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and the fulfillment of those things in Jesus Christ and by Jesus Christ, the Father and the Holy Spirit.
I make no claim to any authority but that God is the authority and no man. Even with the Apostles, Jesus didn't put one in charge, but said they were all equal. That means the authority resides now in Jesus Christ, since He claimed that all authority is now under Him till certain things happen.
That the RCC puts authority in men, particularly Popes of their Church, shows they deny the authority of God. When a Pope speaks from the chair of authority, they falsely believe they have the authority to bind what they declare upon God.
That's backwards, whether you realize it at this time or not.
All authority resides in Christ and our duty is to obey Him and no man. No apostle could properly speak anything contrary and not in complete accord with the words God commanded Jesus to teach.
No man can have two masters - that's what Jesus said. If your Pope says you have to believe that this or that sin that is considered 'politically correct' to accept now - do you think this means anything to God that He has to go back on what He has declared true for almost 3500 years?!
I don't.
How do you know what Jesus or God said ? How do you know Jesus was not just cultist leader and our God is just another Sun god?

Some men told you.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#120 Sep 23, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know what Jesus or God said ? How do you know Jesus was not just cultist leader and our God is just another Sun god?
Some men told you.
Because of Jesus. Even He said we can know through doing what He said that His teachings are of God. I call it the 'Jesus test.'

The Testimony Of Jesus Christ
John 7:16,17; "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority."

In this teaching Jesus equates the personal testimony of His truth from God (the gospel of the kingdom) is to be found in our will to do the will of God. If we have the will to do the will of God, as we do what Jesus taught we will know if it is the will of God as He said it is.

John 14:23,24; "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me."

True doctrine is to observe all of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

The teachings of Jesus cover many things, and here are a few more things He said on the topic:
Matthew 4:4; 'It is written, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God."
John 6:63,64; "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you who do not believe."
Revelation 22:12-16; "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last." Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie."

The real question we need to answer is if doing the will of God is what He requires of us - or if He imputes the righteousness of Jesus Christ to sinners who don't practice ongoing repentance to be sanctified by the word.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#121 Sep 23, 2013
ROMAN Catholic Sproul wrote:
<quoted text>I thought this was an interesting comment, it's the same thing you are saying.
Spiros Zodhiates TH.D.
The church here is the body of believers themselves. We as believers can never make conclusive decisions about things, but can only confirm those decisions which have already been made by the King himself as conclusive in the general context of his Kingdom both on earth and in heaven. See Mt 18:18 where the same two verbs "bind" and"loose," are said to be possessed by all the disciples. See also Jn.20:13. The two verbs dedemenon and lelumeonon are both perfect passive particles which should have been translated respectively as "having been bound " and "as having been loosed' already in the heavens. Believers on earth can only confirm what has already taken place in heaven.
I've never heard of him before, but it looks like I'm in good company:-) Links that came up with a google search of his name had a KJV only group, as though anyone not in absolute agreement with the KJV are perverting the very words of God. One of the 'new' links was about I John 4:7,8. Having my AENT handy, and checking it, verse 7 is nonexistent. Verse 8 says:

"And there are three witnesses, the Spirit and the water, and the blood: and these three are in union." with note 17 to see 'Echad as Plurality in the appendix (16) of 'Eighteen New Testament Misconceptions'.

What I find odd is that known mistranslations in the Greek OT have not been corrected - noting especially a couple Paul loved to use that are not correct from Genesis and Micah.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#122 Sep 23, 2013
ROMAN Catholic Sproul wrote:
<quoted text>I thought this was an interesting comment, it's the same thing you are saying.
Spiros Zodhiates TH.D.
The church here is the body of believers themselves. We as believers can never make conclusive decisions about things, but can only confirm those decisions which have already been made by the King himself as conclusive in the general context of his Kingdom both on earth and in heaven. See Mt 18:18 where the same two verbs "bind" and"loose," are said to be possessed by all the disciples. See also Jn.20:13. The two verbs dedemenon and lelumeonon are both perfect passive particles which should have been translated respectively as "having been bound " and "as having been loosed' already in the heavens. Believers on earth can only confirm what has already taken place in heaven.
Just one more prot cultist who thought he alone had new revelations. Next?
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#123 Sep 23, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Because of Jesus. Even He said we can know through doing what He said that His teachings are of God. I call it the 'Jesus test.'
The Testimony Of Jesus Christ
John 7:16,17; "My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me. If anyone wills to do His will, he shall know concerning the doctrine, whether it is from God or whether I speak on My own authority."
In this teaching Jesus equates the personal testimony of His truth from God (the gospel of the kingdom) is to be found in our will to do the will of God. If we have the will to do the will of God, as we do what Jesus taught we will know if it is the will of God as He said it is.
John 14:23,24; "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father's who sent Me."
True doctrine is to observe all of the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.
The teachings of Jesus cover many things, and here are a few more things He said on the topic:
Matthew 4:4; 'It is written, "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God."
John 6:63,64; "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you who do not believe."
Revelation 22:12-16; "And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last." Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie."
The real question we need to answer is if doing the will of God is what He requires of us - or if He imputes the righteousness of Jesus Christ to sinners who don't practice ongoing repentance to be sanctified by the word.
Men told you what Jesus said. You didn't hear it.
Barnsweb

Louisville, OH

#124 Sep 23, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Men told you what Jesus said. You didn't hear it.
Not just men. If I wanted to hear those who had never heard Him speak, I'd search out the Urantia or perhaps what Joseph Smith Jr. said Jesus gave him in a revelation. That is the pattern of Paul - to believe individual revelation instead of what those who were actually disciples chosen to give witness to His life and teachings.

We have to draw the line somewhere as to who we hear, and per the original disciple John, we are to believe what those who were His disciples say - as their recollection is HS inspired recall.

If you can't believe what John said - what is the point?

To believe the oldest man made Church that keeps changing its doctrines?
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#125 Sep 23, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know what Jesus or God said ? How do you know Jesus was not just cultist leader and our God is just another Sun god?
Some men told you.
It is writting in the book, that God is a god of love, mercy and forgiveness. All the other gods were gods of war, greed. Remember the 1st commandment. I am God, and you we not worship any other god but me. here is the biggest mistake man make. In the book, the "other" god were never said they don't exist, the book says they are "fault "gods. 10 Plagdues were sent to Eypgt. Why. They worship 10 gods. Book of the dead. Each Eygptian god talk about how great they are, but they all said in the end, they was one more powerful then all.
Anonying Proxy

Manassas, VA

#126 Sep 23, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Men told you what Jesus said. You didn't hear it.
Yes we heard it. The men of the bible told us. The men that personally knew and walked with Jesus. They not only told us they put it in writing so that when false teachers come along to devour the sheep, the sheep would know the truth from their written record. We must beware of these wolves like the Catholics that come along with a different version than the apostles. Don't believe it when they say "It's not in the bible they forgot, but it is tradition to do differently."

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