Norm Fields – FORMER employee of Johnny Robertson

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Jaybird

Martinsville, VA

#1 Feb 1, 2012
Does anyone remember Norm Fields, the former preacher of Danville Church of Christ?

I heard from reliable sources that he left due to insufficient funds. Long story short, Mr. Fields was getting his support from the Martinsville Church of Christ, governed/controlled by Johnny Robertson. Mr. Fields requested more money in order that he could better provide for his family and the work of the ministry. Johnny didn’t meet the needs of Mr. Fields which forced him to resign. Out of spite and bitterness, Johnny pulled Mr. Fields support before Mr. Fields could even get packed and moved which no doubt put brother Norm in a situation he didn’t expect from Johnny and the brotherhood.

Is this the love that Jesus commands? Did pride take over Johnny in this situation or was Johnny just in his actions? Was this a vengeful act on Johnny’s part? If one has the fruit of the Spirit, would he act in the manner Johnny done with Mr. Fields?
jorge

Hope Mills, NC

#2 Feb 1, 2012
The Pope giveth and the Pope taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Pope of the Church-of-Christ-nondenominati onal-denomination, Johnny Robertson!

Since: Jul 11

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#3 Feb 1, 2012
Jaybird wrote:
Does anyone remember Norm Fields, the former preacher of Danville Church of Christ?
I heard from reliable sources that he left due to insufficient funds. Long story short, Mr. Fields was getting his support from the Martinsville Church of Christ, governed/controlled by Johnny Robertson. Mr. Fields requested more money in order that he could better provide for his family and the work of the ministry. Johnny didn’t meet the needs of Mr. Fields which forced him to resign. Out of spite and bitterness, Johnny pulled Mr. Fields support before Mr. Fields could even get packed and moved which no doubt put brother Norm in a situation he didn’t expect from Johnny and the brotherhood.
Is this the love that Jesus commands? Did pride take over Johnny in this situation or was Johnny just in his actions? Was this a vengeful act on Johnny’s part? If one has the fruit of the Spirit, would he act in the manner Johnny done with Mr. Fields?
Surely Johnny forgot this verse:

1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

Ohhhhh, that's right, I forgot. If you disobey JR, then you are no longer considered a "brother", so he doesn't have to follow this verse. Pity.

Since: Jan 12

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#4 Feb 1, 2012
SeekingWanderer wrote:
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Surely Johnny forgot this verse:
1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
Ohhhhh, that's right, I forgot. If you disobey JR, then you are no longer considered a "brother", so he doesn't have to follow this verse. Pity.
I recall Norm posting a similar statement on his site when this occurred. He acknowledged how Johnny pulled his support before he even had a chance to move. That’s very telling of the kind of person Johnny really is. Long as you are doing as he wishes, you are good-to-go and don’t have to worry. But if you tick him off or cut against his ego centric personality, watch out for vengeance is his.
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#5 Feb 1, 2012
SeekingWanderer wrote:
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Surely Johnny forgot this verse:
1 John 3:17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
Ohhhhh, that's right, I forgot. If you disobey JR, then you are no longer considered a "brother", so he doesn't have to follow this verse. Pity.
Maybe we can jog Johnnys memory with this bible verse...
*As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. Galatians 6:10
_Do good unto ALL men. But I guess hard hearted Johnny doesn't mind kicking someone to the curb even his own church brethren,huh JR? Maybe that's why no one in Johnnys church will step forward to be an elder? If they disagree with Johnny the least bit they may get kicked to the curb as well?
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#6 Feb 1, 2012
In fact sources say that Norm fields wasn't "agressive enough" and...
" that Robertson thought of Fields as a "wimp" for not "taking on the denominations hard enough".
Seems Norm wasn't militant enough for Johnny in Johnnys crusade against denominations?

The Knight Shift can now report that Fields "won't be coming back" and that Johnny Robertson has made this clear to WGSR general manager Charles Roark. The reason? Fields wasn't "working out", which was explained that Fields was not combative and aggressive enough for Robertson and Oldfield. Indeed, of the three "Church of Christ preachers" broadcasting on WGSR it should be noted that so far as is known, Norm Fields was the only one who did not ambush any other area churches or pastors with a hidden camera during worship services or at any other time. Many people have regarded Fields as the "more sensible" of the three preachers. A number of sources have been reporting to me in the past few months that there was some friction between Robertson and Fields and that Robertson "did not like Fields at all", that Robertson thought of Fields as a "wimp" for not "taking on the denominations hard enough".

The "Church of Christ" cult - which is not associated in any way with the mainstream Churches of Christ - prides itself on "unity" and maintains that being one church is something that Jesus not only taught but demanded. Robertson and Oldfield are known throughout the area for broadcasting their message that unless a person is a member of their "Church of Christ" that a person is damned to go to Hell, with zero tolerance allowed for dissent. It now looks at this hour that Fields, the preacher of the Danville Church of Christ, is indeed dissident enough for Johnny DeVere Robertson - widely known as the leader of the cult - to have him drummed from the airwaves...
Full story here...

http://theknightshift.blogspot.com/2008/08/ex...
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#7 Feb 1, 2012
Has anyone considered that the money supply might be drying up, forcing them to change their spending habits? In other words maybe the church is losing members-just guessing...

Since: Jul 11

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#8 Feb 1, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
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Maybe we can jog Johnnys memory with this bible verse...
*As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. Galatians 6:10
_Do good unto ALL men. But I guess hard hearted Johnny doesn't mind kicking someone to the curb even his own church brethren,huh JR? Maybe that's why no one in Johnnys church will step forward to be an elder? If they disagree with Johnny the least bit they may get kicked to the curb as well?
You hit the nail on the head. "Elder" in some COCs is a dangerous position, and sometimes at the whim of the "simple preacher", as JC calls it. Constantly on the hit list. I'd be so stressed out all the time.
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#9 Feb 2, 2012
Bobby wrote:
Has anyone considered that the money supply might be drying up, forcing them to change their spending habits? In other words maybe the church is losing members-just guessing...
I think this is a real possibility because Johnny Robertsons three churches in this area have such small congregations they cannot be self supporting. Especially when you consider the large tv budget of Johnny's tv shows spending $900-$1200 dollars a week. Then also Johnny's relatives are on the payroll. No wonder they have to outside the state to get funding.

Since: Jan 12

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#10 Feb 2, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
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I think this is a real possibility because Johnny Robertsons three churches in this area have such small congregations they cannot be self supporting. Especially when you consider the large tv budget of Johnny's tv shows spending $900-$1200 dollars a week. Then also Johnny's relatives are on the payroll. No wonder they have to outside the state to get funding.
I would “guess” John and James to be making over $40,000 per year whereas the others ‘under them’, on the payroll, are making substantially less. Typically smaller coc assemblies are supported by larger coc assemblies. For instance, Mark gets his support from Martinsville coc. Johnny and James receive support from various States. I would also “guess” them to have plenty of monetary support for the aired TV programs. I doubt very seriously that they are hurting for money although more is always better when you have an agenda to ‘defeat and destroy’ all denominational Churches.
Whitman

Saint Pauls, NC

#11 Feb 3, 2012
Mark McMinnis better behave himself with Johnny. Mark isn't family. He could lose his job just like Norm Fields did.

Martinsville Church Of Christ is like the Mafia. Corrupt and run by 1 family of criminals!
Speak Evil

Greenville, TX

#12 Feb 3, 2012
Tit_3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Jas_4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

1Pe_3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

1Pe_3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

2Pe_2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

2Pe_2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Jud_1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jud_1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

bible.ca/
Speak Evil

Greenville, TX

#13 Feb 3, 2012
Whitman wrote:
Mark McMinnis better behave himself with Johnny. Mark isn't family. He could lose his job just like Norm Fields did.
Martinsville Church Of Christ is like the Mafia. Corrupt and run by 1 family of criminals!

Tit_3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

Jas_4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

1Pe_3:10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:

1Pe_3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

2Pe_2:10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

2Pe_2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Jud_1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Jud_1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

bible.ca/
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#14 Feb 4, 2012
Nova is now playing the part of the convicted criminal in prison saying "we are innocent and here is the proof, it is right there in the law, can't you see it"?
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#15 Feb 4, 2012
Nova doesn't want anyone to speak against Johnny's bunch, yet Mark McMinnis has referred to denominational churches as "synagogues of satan" on tv...hmmmm? Where is Nova when Mark "speaks evil"?
Whatever

Fredericksburg, VA

#16 Mar 18, 2012
jorge wrote:
The Pope giveth and the Pope taketh away. Blessed be the name of the Pope of the Church-of-Christ-nondenominati onal-denomination, Johnny Robertson!
I noticed you called Mr.Fields "brother" so I am assuming you are either another angry ex-member of the Lord's Church,and if not,you are not his brother. Mr.Fields did not leave due to a lack of funds,it was probably more a lack of gusto for the hard work in the street.Unlike denominational preachers, who preserve their evangelising for Sunday morning, true gospel preachers must be willing to knock doors,and get into the street; Walk the walk,and talk the talk.I believe "The Boss" did the same thing,about 2000 years ago.
walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#17 Mar 22, 2012
Bobby wrote:
Has anyone considered that the money supply might be drying up, forcing them to change their spending habits? In other words maybe the church is losing members-just guessing...
The numbers of members in the local body does not matter, his funding comes from the people he tricks with his edited DVD presentations in Texas.
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#18 Mar 22, 2012
WIL, you should read my message #15 here:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/martinsville-...

These guys are using a lot of the same techniques as Johnny does.

Here is what I learned from an ex-member:

The church is run by Tim Williams who has all his own family members on the payroll. They own a publishing company where they write articles and books. The church is very small and all the members are under the control of their leader to pay church bills and get part time jobs to support the ministry. The ex-members say that the bulk of the money goes to MR Williams- about 500,000 annually from a church membership of about 40. The members are all required to work for the church publishing company for free-except Williams and his family. They live high on the hog while the members suffer to survive. They are constantly being told that the "true church doctrine" requires that they give all they own to support the true gospel. Ex-members say that they have not even had a visitor in over two years. The ministry is solely through the publishing company.

They sucker in outsiders to buy their materials by using quotes from great preachers like AW Tozer, etc. However in their own church they believe these men were lost.

Do you see similarities with Johnny's bunch?
walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#19 Mar 23, 2012
I read it and yes I see it and since we are starting into the last days I would not be surprised to see this happening more and more.

The deception levels will continue to grow as long as the skandalizo <4624> is taken by believers. This bait of offense causes many things to happen.

Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?” And they took offense at Him.

They were offended and could not see the truth about Jesus. Thus offense causes blindness. Once blind you are vulnerable to the enemies plans. This is why Johnny uses offense to try and provoke people, it causes blindness and he can then start to control and direct the path of the argument.

I pray that those following come out of the fellowship with a clear eye to see the truth and give up all their offenses taken up towards anyone. It is the only way to clearly see.

I also pray that when the implosion happens that those involved will not lose faith in God over the failures of men!
Randy Stafford

Lynchburg, VA

#20 May 12, 2013
Watched a little of "WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?" Sunday evening, May 5th.

Amazed at how Johnny took a simple verse, "For whosoever shal call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved," and spent 30 minutes or more trying to convince us it DOES NOT MEAN simply and exactly what it says. Said it means MUCH MORE than just praying to the Lord!!

Well, so much for "simple salvation."

I tell you what: if his forever-frowning face, inability to crack a smile and always looking like he's in pain is salvation, then I am SO GLAD I don't have that kind!

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