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William

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"I can tell you and anyone else including your priest friend that there is no such Catholic Dogma concerning the Mother of God being a co- anything."

Well, then all y'all are evidently not on the exact same page about this.

Me to the priest: "Is Mary the co-mediatrix, along with Jesus?"

The priest answers: "Yes, she is."

There you have it.

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William wrote:
"I can tell you and anyone else including your priest friend that there is no such Catholic Dogma concerning the Mother of God being a co- anything."
Well, then all y'all are evidently not on the exact same page about this.
Me to the priest: "Is Mary the co-mediatrix, along with Jesus?"
The priest answers: "Yes, she is."
There you have it.
As much changing as the Catholic doctrine has done over the years will boggle the mind if you look it up.
William

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"As much changing as the Catholic doctrine has done over the years will boggle the mind if you look it up."

The constant revisionist rationalizing is funny to watch. Downright Commie-esque, if you look closely at it.

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William wrote:
"I can tell you and anyone else including your priest friend that there is no such Catholic Dogma concerning the Mother of God being a co- anything."
Well, then all y'all are evidently not on the exact same page about this.
Me to the priest: "Is Mary the co-mediatrix, along with Jesus?"
The priest answers: "Yes, she is."
There you have it.
Here are the exact and ONLY infallible Dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church in regard to the Mother of God. You will notice there are no words beginning with co-. Maybe you should print these and show them to your new priest friend.

1. Mary is truly the Mother of God.
2. Mary was conceived without the stain of original sin.
Mary is the Immaculate Conception.
3. Mary conceived by the Holy Ghost without the cooperation of man.
4. Mary bore her Son without any violation of her virginal integrity.
5. After the birth of Jesus, Mary remained a Virgin.
6. Mary was assumed body and soul into Heaven.

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William wrote:
"Dude don't tell me you voted for Obama."
What difference does it make who I voted for, or not for? For the record, I voted for Romney because I thought he could handle the economy better. Turns out I appear to be right. Again.
But your crack about "St. Trayvon of the Hoodie" belies you as just another Fixed News drone. And Zimmerman is Catholic, so of course the Klan has to look after it's own.
So you don't think the media's constant use of the very young innocent looking Trayvon picture, the ignoring of his major school behavior issues and suspensions, being caught with drugs and stolen jewelry, and buying the ingredients for making Lean the very night of the shooting are worthy of a sarcastic crack or two? Nothing racist about it. Guy was a thug in training pure and simple and the fruit didn't fall too far from the mommy and daddy thug tree.
Mike Peterson

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Me to the priest: "Is Mary the co-mediatrix, along with Jesus?"

It is not dogma.

Besides don't you have co-workers? They probably work harder than you so 'co' does not mean the "same as."
William

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Well OK then. Maybe the kid was just an intern priest. Still working out his salvation with fear and trembling, etc.

At least he didn't come off as racist.
Barnsweb

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Mike Peterson wrote:
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Because even the Apostles had disagreements. To circumscribe or not. They brought it the Church. The Council of Jerusalem made the infallible decision. Circumcision was not necessary. There was no Bible and Jesus was not physically present. The Church spoke for Jesus. They heard the Church , thus they heard Jesus.
What about Messianic Jews? Do you agree with the Church council on circumcision. I know you agree with the Church council on the canonization of the NT
Exactly how Jesus drew it up and how it has been done for 2000 years.
All other non Catholics decide personally on their own. 40,000 churches and growing daily.
There is more than one ancient Church, I hope you'll at least admit this is historical fact, and that each direction the gospel of Jesus Christ went, there was an accounting of the Scriptures from the Apostles. The record is not found alone in Rome.

The matter of circumcision is not a matter that is dividing the brotherhood of believers, so I don't know why you bring that one up. It would be more fitting to double check the gospel according to Paul VS the gospel according to Jesus Christ. The two are absolutely not compatible in all regards. We should see the error of the Catholic faith by what they approved as Scripture when they inserted false doctrines of Paul along side the truth of Jesus Christ and the real Holy Apostles that Jesus chose and that testified of the true gospel of God.

So the Catholics didn't have the nerve to do as God commands to determine who really speaks for Him. That has been long standing error since at least the Council of Trent. The Catholics can thank themselves for allowing the gospel according to Paul to be taught as truth because they were unfaithful to keep the commandments of God to the matter. Catholics, in this regard, are as unfaithful as any other Church that teaches different doctrine than taught by Jesus Christ. In fact, it would seem that the Catholics are the mother of all false doctrine, as their approval of falsehood in the Scripture. Catholics only have their own faithlessness to be proud of. Sad, but true.

There is still time to repent to do as Revelation says, to wash in keeping the commandments of God and the faith and testimony of the Apostle of God. Upon His return, He will destroy those who refused to allow Him to rule over them...
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"There is more than one ancient Church, I hope you'll at least admit this is historical fact, and that each direction the gospel of Jesus Christ went, there was an accounting of the Scriptures from the Apostles. The record is not found alone in Rome."

There were different cities with the same Church. That is the historical fact.

"The matter of circumcision is not a matter that is dividing the brotherhood of believers, so I don't know why you bring that one up"

I brought it up because it was the Biblical example of way the Apostles thru Christ set up the system to resolve disputes. Councils with the Pope as the final Authority.

The Bible is the inerrant and inspired written words of God.

There is no contradiction in it. It is "This and That"

Paul's writing does not contradict anything.
Barnsweb

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Pardon, but if you look at the record of the first 'council', who was the lead speaker? Was it Peter? Why not? Where was Peter? Doing what Jesus told him to do.

If you don't realize Paul's writing doesn't contradict anything, that statement just tells me you have spent no time in the details or the doctrine taught by Jesus Christ.

Here's an example:

Jesus taught, as does Torah, not to eat things sacrificed to idols.

Not to mention that works have nothing to do with salvation - that's another gross error flying in the face of the truth of God.

The Jerusalem decree you mentions says the same thing Torah and Jesus said.

Paul said it's OK to eat things sacrificed to idols. Thus Paul's writings tell Christians that it's ok to do that which God, Moses, Jesus Christ and the original Apostles taught, as well as James, the Lord's brother.
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need to proof read:-)

should be:

Thus Paul's writings tell Christians that it's OK to NOT do that which God, Moses, Jesus Christ and the original Apostles taught, as well as James, the Lord's brother.

And why did Paul appeal to Rome, rather than face the brethren at Jerusalem? Paul was a two face that expressly behaved against what Jesus taught and must be found to be a false prophet for teaching against the truth of God given through Moses and Jesus Christ.
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The Catholic Church was wrong to include the writings of Paul as Scripture. They must be rejected if we are to be true to what God said.

Paul does NOT meet that standard God demands, and we disobey God if we don't get busy to now do what that is - try all things, especially Paul, according to the words of the true prophets who preceded him.

Paulism is not discipleship to Master YHWH Y'shua.
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And look at what Jesus said about what we say and the judgment we can bring upon ourselves by our words - not calling people fools, if we find a fault between us and another brother, to take things between the two and seek to be reconciled. Paul on the other hand loved to boast - in fact at least once he said he'd rather die than not be able to boast. It was Paul who called others 'fools' who disagreed with him, but agreed with Jesus and Peter. In fact, Paul openly put Peter down for something he himself said he did.

If God is true, if Jesus Christ is true, then Paul showed himself false and untrue by word and action and epistle... if the standards given by God are true.
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The Messianic Jews movement came out of the Jesus Freaks phenomenon of the 1960s

Most are Jews on their way to Catholicism. Very few Gentile converts.
Barnsweb

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Maybe that is so in AL, but not Ohio. Of those attending, one is Jewish, the rest are Gentiles.

Catholics have 'converts'? From what I've seen the RCC is dieing. Many are becoming LDS.

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