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Dave P

Lexington, KY

#61 Jul 2, 2013
Dodgeball.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#62 Jul 2, 2013
The Protestant Rejection of Authority Error:

"He who hears you, hears me; and he who rejects you, rejects me; and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me." Luke 10:16
That is authority!

Powerful words from the mouth of Jesus Christ to his disciples, the leaders of His Church.
Those who hear His Church, hear him, is what Jesus Christ said in that verse.
Conversely, those who do not hear his Church, do not hear him. If you are interested to know what will be the fate of those who reject His Church, then read the context in Luke 10:1-15.

Holy Scripture has a lot to say about authority, as to just who has it and who does not, and how important a central authority is to the understanding of truth.

However, Protestants have consistently rejected all authority. They simply rejected what they never could have had from the onset of their revolt. However, rejection of authority is anti-Christian and anti-Bible. Since they have reject

"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."
Matthew 18:15-17

So what does this verse tell us as to where the final authority is to be found? What is the name of that Church, since it is still with us? To what Church would you go in order to obey the command of Jesus Christ in those verses if you lived in 110, or 450, or 1025, or 1490? Can you name it?

There are many verses which warn against forsaking GOD given authority regarding His Assembly (O.T.) or Church (N.T.) which He bestowed upon prophets such as Moses Exodus 3-40, and on the Apostles John 20:21-23, and to their successors, Hebrews 13:7-8, 13:17.

Read of Mariam and Aaron as they complained against the authority of Moses in Numbers 12:1-15,(3) "Is it through Moses alone that the Lord speaks? Does he not speak through us also?"

GOD became angry with this remark, since He had previously chosen to speak through his one and only father figure, His "vicar" on earth, Moses. Consequently he turned Mariam into a leper.
Read of the rebellion of Korah against the GOD given authority of Moses in Numbers 16, and pay especial attention to what happened to Korah, and to his followers in Numbers 16:31-35.

His ending, and that of his followers is not pretty to say the least.

Which person in any of the now 39,000 Protestant sects has any authority at all?

Who has the over all authority to separate truth in teaching from that of error?

The rejection of authority is merely a Protestant defense mechanism. Since they obviously knew that they had no authority to begin with, they simply elected to reject all authority. However, their rejection of authority is highly anti-Christian and anti-Biblical, as I have shown.

For those who claim to follow the Bible only, how is it that they cannot see this?

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#63 Jul 2, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Protestants believe every possible combination of things so you have to paint with a large brush when talking about them.
Research the Immaculate Conception. It has nothing to do with Jesus.
Today is a first! It's the very first time I've ever seen the phrase "Immaculate Conception' applied to Jesus Christ! I shall need a whole bag of peanuts!
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#64 Jul 2, 2013
Mike you posted all that again but dodged the issues from the previous post. Dodgeball.
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#65 Jul 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Today is a first! It's the very first time I've ever seen the phrase "Immaculate Conception' applied to Jesus Christ! I shall need a whole bag of peanuts!
Jesus wasn't miraculously conceived ?!?

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#66 Jul 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Jesus wasn't miraculously conceived ?!?
Looks like you don't know as much about the Catholic Church as you think you do. Of course we knew that all along.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#67 Jul 3, 2013
The Protestant Lack of Reasoning Power Error:

Everything having to do with GOD and His Church is so simple that any thinking person should be able to reason it out for themselves.

We have the truth in the Words of Jesus Christ, and the power of reasoning and basic logic in order to discern those Words properly.

Just look at the abundance of verses which stress oneness, and truth.
1. There is only one GOD. Ephesians 4:6
2. There is only one truth. John 14:6, 17:17
3. There is only one Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:4
4. There is only one fold. John 10:16
5. There is only one Shepherd for that one fold. John 10:16
6. There is only one Church. Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18, 1Corinth 3:11, Ephesians 1:22,4:5
7. There is only one authority. Matthew 18:15-18, John 20:21-23
8. There is only one Gospel. Galatians 1:8-9
9. There is only one true interpretation of that Bible. Acts 8:30-34, 2Peter 3:14-17
10. There is only one Baptism. Ephesians 4:5
11. There is only one priesthood. Hebrews 7:11-17
12. We must all be one. John 17:20-23
13. We are obligated to search for the truth. 2Thessalonians 2:13, James 3:14, 2John 1:1-4
14. Dire consequences await those who do not reveal the truth. Romans 1:18
15. Dire consequences await those who do not accept the truth. Romans 2:8
16. Dire consequences await those who do not speak the truth. Revelation 21:8, 21:27
17. We have only one life, so we must get it right the first and our only time around.

Anything that contradicts even one of the verses listed above is not from GOD, but from the author of division and confusion.

With all of those "Ones" listed above, why is it that Protestants cannot use their power of reasoning to see that they do not comply with what Holy Scripture commands of us?

35,000 plus Protestant "folds" is a violation by all sects of several verses in #4,#5 and #6 above.
With all of them teaching contradicting doctrines, they violate #2.

With none of them having any authority, they violate #7.

They all certainly violate #9 with their practice of "individual interpretation" of Holy Scripture.

Why is it so hard to reason that to have only one truth, you must have only one authority?
It is that simple, but Protestants simply cannot understand it, and their tens of thousands of sects prove it.

After all, by simple reasoning and common sense, it is easy to see that GOD would not have given us one inerrant book without first giving us one infallible interpreter for it.
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#68 Jul 3, 2013
It's the very first time I've ever seen the phrase "Immaculate Conception' applied to Jesus Christ!

Looks like you don't know as much about the Catholic Church as you think you do. Of course we knew that all along.

Mark, what is your point? Who is more important in the conception idea? Is it Mary of Jesus? I go with Jesus, since the whole book we have is about Him.

If this is about the idea of Mary being conceived in the same manner, we need Biblical proof.
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#69 Jul 3, 2013
Everything having to do with GOD and His Church is so simple that any thinking person should be able to reason it out for themselves.

We have the truth in the Words of Jesus Christ, and the power of reasoning and basic logic in order to discern those Words properly.

*Correct. As you say, "any thinking person". And as you say, "we have the power of reasoning and basic logic to discern those words properly."

Anything that contradicts even one of the verses listed above is not from GOD, but from the author of division and confusion.

With all of those "Ones" listed above, why is it that Protestants cannot use their power of reasoning to see that they do not comply with what Holy Scripture commands of us?

*Thou hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers' eye.

Why is it that Catholics cannot use their power of reasoning to see that they do not comply with what Holy Scripture commands of us?

35,000 plus Protestant "folds" is a violation by all sects of several verses in #4,#5 and #6 above.
With all of them teaching contradicting doctrines, they violate #2.

*Multiple Catholic "folds" is a violation of #4-6 above. With all of them teaching contradicting doctrines, they violate #2.

With none of them having any authority, they violate #7.

*By usurping authority they have not been given, Catholics violate #7.

They all certainly violate #9 with their practice of "individual interpretation" of Holy Scripture.

*Catholicism certainly violates #9 with the proof being the "interpretation" they use of 2 Peter 3:14-16. They do the very thing Peter warns about, plus miss the fact he said hard, not impossible, to understand; also he did not say to "leave the interpretation up to us."

After all, by simple reasoning and common sense, it is easy to see that GOD would not have given us one inerrant book without first giving us one infallible interpreter for it.

*And to end it all, we go back to human logic and reasoning, not scripture, to finalize our point.

We can play prot vs cath all day, and what one accuses the other of can be brought up against the other. What good does it do?

The RCC and hardline coc need to learn one lesson here- the negative, "We're the only right ones, the rest are hellbound" attitude doesn't attract many people outside of the church. You may draw some, but many more are turned off and disgusted by it.

Plus, look at the motivation- join the RIGHT church or go to hell. Is hell enough of a motivation to search for Jesus? Why don't we present the POSITIVE things, such as having a purpose and meaning in life, freedom in Christ, eternal life, joy and peace, etc?

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#70 Jul 3, 2013
"We can play prot vs cath all day, and what one accuses the other of can be brought up against the other. What good does it do?"

Doesn't seem to be stopping you!
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#71 Jul 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
Everything having to do with GOD and His Church is so simple that any thinking person should be able to reason it out for themselves.
We have the truth in the Words of Jesus Christ, and the power of reasoning and basic logic in order to discern those Words properly.
*Correct. As you say, "any thinking person". And as you say, "we have the power of reasoning and basic logic to discern those words properly."
Anything that contradicts even one of the verses listed above is not from GOD, but from the author of division and confusion.
With all of those "Ones" listed above, why is it that Protestants cannot use their power of reasoning to see that they do not comply with what Holy Scripture commands of us?
*Thou hypocrite! First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers' eye.
Why is it that Catholics cannot use their power of reasoning to see that they do not comply with what Holy Scripture commands of us?
35,000 plus Protestant "folds" is a violation by all sects of several verses in #4,#5 and #6 above.
With all of them teaching contradicting doctrines, they violate #2.
*Multiple Catholic "folds" is a violation of #4-6 above. With all of them teaching contradicting doctrines, they violate #2.
With none of them having any authority, they violate #7.
*By usurping authority they have not been given, Catholics violate #7.
They all certainly violate #9 with their practice of "individual interpretation" of Holy Scripture.
*Catholicism certainly violates #9 with the proof being the "interpretation" they use of 2 Peter 3:14-16. They do the very thing Peter warns about, plus miss the fact he said hard, not impossible, to understand; also he did not say to "leave the interpretation up to us."
After all, by simple reasoning and common sense, it is easy to see that GOD would not have given us one inerrant book without first giving us one infallible interpreter for it.
*And to end it all, we go back to human logic and reasoning, not scripture, to finalize our point.
We can play prot vs cath all day, and what one accuses the other of can be brought up against the other. What good does it do?
The RCC and hardline coc need to learn one lesson here- the negative, "We're the only right ones, the rest are hellbound" attitude doesn't attract many people outside of the church. You may draw some, but many more are turned off and disgusted by it.
Plus, look at the motivation- join the RIGHT church or go to hell. Is hell enough of a motivation to search for Jesus? Why don't we present the POSITIVE things, such as having a purpose and meaning in life, freedom in Christ, eternal life, joy and peace, etc?
In other words believe what you want, it doesn't matter to God. You wont go to hell.

"Jesus , the Bible and Me."

Perfect example of Protestantism.

Since: Jan 10

Royse City

#72 Jul 3, 2013
Why Be A Christian?

G. L. Mann

This question merits our most serious consideration. Paul stood before King Agrippa and earnestly pleaded with him to become a Christian (Acts 28:26). Paul was at that very moment in bonds for the cause which he so nobly represented to Agrippa. Though he was a prisoner, Paul continued to persuade men to become such as he, except for his bonds (v. 29). He could do this because there are so many wonderful reasons to be a Christian. We shall consider some of them.

A sinner is in no condition to meet God. All responsible beings who are not Christians are sinners and are in no condition to meet God with pleasure or satisfaction. Just as certainly as God exists, we are all going to meet Him some day (Heb. 10:31). We cannot go to heaven in our sins, and even if we could we would not enjoy it. The person who does not appreciate God and godly things in this life will be wholly incapable of loving and appreciating them in the life to come.

We must therefore get rid of our sins and have our names written in the Lamb's book of life (Rev. 21:27). We will not go to heaven just because we had, or still have, a Christian mother or father. Each one of us must be born again and become a new creature in Christ before we can go to heaven (Jn. 3:5; Gal. 6:15).

God has provided salvation. God knew we were lost and needed to be saved. He loved us so much — even in our lost condition — that He gave His Son to die for us that we might live (John 3:16). The blood of Christ will save us from our sins and as our high priest, Christ is always before the throne of God atoning for the sins of those who obey His gospel.

When we are baptized into Christ, the efficacy of His blood is applied in our behalf. But baptism must be preceded by faith and repentance (Heb. 11:6; Jn. 8:24; Lk. 13:3; Acts 2:38). When these things are accomplished, one becomes a member of Christ's church which He purchased with His blood (Acts 20:28) and is thus redeemed from sin.

God offers salvation now. Jesus says, "Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest" (Matt. 11:28). God has provided for our salvation and promised to save us now if we but obey Him (2 Cor. 6:2). Procrastination is extremely dangerous.

So many of those who intend to obey the gospel "sometime" never live to see that time come. The prompt obedience of the Philippian jailer puts the procrastinator to shame. Reader, if you are not a Christian, do not delay the matter of your obedience to Christ. The eternal destiny of your soul is at stake. Can you afford the gamble?

Life is uncertain. We are here today with no promise whatsoever of tomorrow. David expressed the uncertainty of life on this order: "...there is but a step between me and death" (1 Sam. 20:3). James expresses it on this wise: "Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away" (Jas. 4:14).

Many people are like the rich farmer (Lk. 12:16-21). They are so wrapped up in the affairs of this life that the eternal destiny of their souls receives no consideration. In this realm of uncertainty we must prepare for that which we know to be a certainty — death.

Those who reject Christ will be judged by Him when He comes again. He is coming back to receive His own and to take vengeance on those who know Him not and obey not His gospel (2 Thess. 1:7-9). We must become Christians and remain Christians, because God does not promise unconditional immunity from sin throughout our lives as children of God. We shall all be judged according to our deeds and rewarded according to our works (2 Cor. 5:10).

Won't you seriously consider your soul's salvation? Obey Christ by believing on Him as God's Son, repenting of your sins, confessing your faith in Him and being baptized into Him.
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#73 Jul 3, 2013
Heath, thanks for ....?
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#74 Jul 3, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
"We can play prot vs cath all day, and what one accuses the other of can be brought up against the other. What good does it do?"
Doesn't seem to be stopping you!
You're still here aren't you?
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#75 Jul 3, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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In other words believe what you want, it doesn't matter to God. You wont go to hell.
"Jesus , the Bible and Me."
Perfect example of Protestantism.
Dodgeball 2- true underdog story- Mike the catholic king of dodgeball.

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#76 Jul 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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You're still here aren't you?
Since I've heard it all before it's only because I find you mildly amusing.
Dave P

Lexington, KY

#77 Jul 3, 2013
You think issues of the soul are mildly amusing? You still haven't found Jesus yet. Are you even looking for Him?

Since: Jun 11

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#78 Jul 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
You think issues of the soul are mildly amusing? You still haven't found Jesus yet. Are you even looking for Him?
I think non-Catholics having the balls to tell Catholics what the Church believes is pretty damned funny! You simply cannot justify being a prot and we all know it.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#79 Jul 3, 2013
Bobby: " Plus, look at the motivation- join the RIGHT church or go to hell. Is hell enough of a motivation to search for Jesus? Why don't we present the POSITIVE things, such as having a purpose and meaning in life, freedom in Christ, eternal life, joy and peace, etc?"

Sure, we welcome you to the Church with open arms to experience the fullness of the Truth which will set you free. You can find out about all of things.

Not your own personal experience of what those mean.

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#80 Jul 3, 2013
Maybe I should try telling the 39,000 prot denominations what they believe!

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