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Bobby

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MarkEden wrote:
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So why aren't you a Lutheran if you think he's so swell? And by the way Luther did not leave on his on accord...he was excommunicated.
Because the Lutheran church is still lukewarm catholicism...
Mike Peterson

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Protestant Fallacy :

" There are good and bad in all the churches."

If you mean that there are good men and bad men in all religions, you are right. But if you mean that the teachings of all churches, including the Catholic Church, are partly true and partly false, you are wrong.

The teachings of all non-Catholic churches are partly true and partly false. Partly true, for a religion consisting wholly of error could not exist. Partly false, because all non-Catholic churches are a denial that Christ made sufficient provision for the Church He established.

But not a single false doctrine is to be found in the official teaching of the Catholic Church, which is the work, not of man, but of God. If a man is obliged to accept the truth in its entirety, and not a fragment of the truth, he is obliged to accept the Catholic Church as his guide.
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Nuts, spam, clueless, wrong, indendiary, mean, disagree. Rinse and repeat endlessly.

LOL!

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Dave P wrote:
Nuts, spam, clueless, wrong, indendiary, mean, disagree. Rinse and repeat endlessly.
LOL!
Dude you own nuts and clueless! Maybe you would be happy with hese folks:
http://plaincatholic.webs.com/
Mike Peterson

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Dave P wrote:
Nuts, spam, clueless, wrong, indendiary, mean, disagree. Rinse and repeat endlessly.
LOL!
So go ahead and state that the Church you go to is the Church Jesus started and has the fullness of the Truth and that everybody should be in your Church. If it isn't why do you go there? So you can be a Preacher?

Jesus created a Church. He would not create one with error. It looks like Protestants think he would.

He said evil would not prevail against it. Looks like Protestants think Jesus didn't hold to his promise.

If it is not the CC, which one is it?

And don't say the Church is the community of believers. That is ridiculous. Satan believes.

Which of the 30,000 + is it?

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So go ahead and state that the Church you go to is the Church Jesus started and has the fullness of the Truth and that everybody should be in your Church. If it isn't why do you go there? So you can be a Preacher?
Jesus created a Church. He would not create one with error. It looks like Protestants think he would.
He said evil would not prevail against it. Looks like Protestants think Jesus didn't hold to his promise.
If it is not the CC, which one is it?
And don't say the Church is the community of believers. That is ridiculous. Satan believes.
Which of the 30,000 + is it?
These prot guys can't stand it when you nail their SS ass to the wall.
Mike Peterson

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Jul 17, 2013
 
Protestant Fallacy:

"There is no real lack of essential unity in the Christian Churches at all. All together form the one true Church"

However nice that looks on paper, it is impossible. We cannot hold that hundreds of conflicting churches, even those disowning each other, are all one united church. The good Baptist who says that Rome is idolatrous would have to admit that the idolatrous Catholic belongs to the same church as himself, and is equally a Christian. The notion demands not a little suppression of reason.

Again, if the Catholic Church ex-communicates a man, almost any Protestant Church will promptly receive him. If the Catholic Church and the Protestant Church which receives him are one and the same, you will have the same Christ accepting and rejecting the same man at one and the same time!

The Son of God, who knew that a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand, took precautions precisely to avoid such internal divisions. He declared that there would be absolute unity in both doctrine and government, and He has preserved His Church from doctrinal and disciplinary dissension.

In the fourth century there was the same Catholic Church as today, and almost as many cut-off sects, Montanists, Manicheans, Arians, Donatists, Nestorians, Pelagians, and Eutychians, were solemnly telling men that they were part of the one true Church. Sincere men like yourself were deceived, and maintained many sections. But the cut-off sections died, lacking the promise of Christ.

Today we have the same Catholic Church, but a new host of cut-off sects, Anglicans, Wesleyans, Presbyterians, Baptists, Adventists, Christadelphians, etc., and they have not yet lasted as long as many of the earlier heresies. They too will die, and a new lot will arise in the ages to come. But you are making the same mistake as many sincere men in the earlier centuries, thinking these man-made substitutes to be part of the one indivisible Church of Christ.

The new lots are the Bible Churches, Emerging Churchs, Messianic Jews, etc.
Barnsweb

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Jul 17, 2013
 
That there are 30,000 divisions merely points to the fact that those in division are not getting the point that He taught the Kingdom of God, and the Catholics aren't either. They have long standing taught 'follow the Pope' and 'Church doctrine' rather than the truth Jesus taught - repentance to prepare for the Kingdom of God.

Israel rejected God when they chose an earthly king, and the Catholics rejected God when they chose and earthly Pope.

Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. Be careful to do what He said that you uphold true righteousness and judgment - according to God and not man.
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And if you need some sort of Scriptural background for this, see the link on what Jesus taught. onediscipletoanother.org
Barnsweb

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'The doctrine of Jesus Christ'

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Barnsweb wrote:
They have long standing taught 'follow the Pope' and 'Church doctrine' rather than the truth Jesus taught - repentance to prepare for the Kingdom of God.
Israel rejected God when they chose an earthly king, and the Catholics rejected God when they chose and earthly Pope.
Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. Be careful to do what He said that you uphold true righteousness and judgment - according to God and not man.
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MarkEden wrote:
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These prot guys can't stand it when you nail their SS ass to the wall.
Is the RCC church perfect? Was the first Century Church perfect?

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Jul 17, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
That there are 30,000 divisions merely points to the fact that those in division are not getting the point that He taught the Kingdom of God, and the Catholics aren't either. They have long standing taught 'follow the Pope' and 'Church doctrine' rather than the truth Jesus taught - repentance to prepare for the Kingdom of God.
Israel rejected God when they chose an earthly king, and the Catholics rejected God when they chose and earthly Pope.
Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. Be careful to do what He said that you uphold true righteousness and judgment - according to God and not man.
LOL we all know you are the only one ever in human history to get the point.
Barnsweb

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No, I'm far from alone. Maybe I'm the first one you've heard it from, but there are others. There are certainly others who know more about it than I do, and have for some time. Facts are facts. What I said is speaking according to the Torah and the Testimony and the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Apostles - it is nothing I made up or had to stretch passages beyond their clear upright meaning to discern the linkage and relationship they have to each other.

Check out 'The Narrow Path' web site and see that Steve Gregg has a series on 'The Kingdom of God.' I merely am a student with my ears open to what IS true. And it's significant enough that I also updated my web site to reflect the kingdom as taught by Jesus and the link it has back to Moses, Samuel, Saul and finally David to his Seed - Jesus Christ.
Mike Peterson

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Barnsweb wrote:
No, I'm far from alone. Maybe I'm the first one you've heard it from, but there are others. There are certainly others who know more about it than I do, and have for some time. Facts are facts. What I said is speaking according to the Torah and the Testimony and the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Apostles - it is nothing I made up or had to stretch passages beyond their clear upright meaning to discern the linkage and relationship they have to each other.
Check out 'The Narrow Path' web site and see that Steve Gregg has a series on 'The Kingdom of God.' I merely am a student with my ears open to what IS true. And it's significant enough that I also updated my web site to reflect the kingdom as taught by Jesus and the link it has back to Moses, Samuel, Saul and finally David to his Seed - Jesus Christ.
Others do more than any of us. 2000 years of Church teaching what the Apostles taught.

Not some religion started in 1970.
Mike Peterson

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Protestants can't be sure they have the correct interpretation of Scripture (due to private interpretation)

Protestantism has no historical basis

Protestant religions were founded
by men, not God
Protestants misunderstand Scripture

Protestants use mistranlated Bibles to prove their doctrines

There is no legitimate reason to believe that all of Christ's teachings are contained in the Bible

Protestantism violates the principle of non-contradiction

There is only one correct version of the Gospel

Christ wants His followers to be united, not divided into different denominations

Protestants imply that God changes

Protestantism has evil origins, sufficient in themselves to disprove it
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Some Verses Protestants Never See:

1. Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.

2. 1 Timothy 3: 14-15

I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these instructions to you so that, if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.(not the Bible)

3. 2 Timothy 3:14-17

But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.( No where does this say scripture only)

4. 2 Thessalonians 2:15

So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

5. Matthew 16:13-19

Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesare’a Philip’pi, he asked his disciples,“Who do men say that the Son of man is?” And they said,“Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them,“But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied,“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him,“Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

6. Revelation 14:13

And I heard a voice from heaven saying,“Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth.”“Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit,“that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”(Judged on works)

7. Romans 10:14-15

But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? And how can men preach unless they are sent?( Who sent your preacher)

9. Colossians 1:24

Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I complete what is lacking in Christ’s afflictions for the sake of his body, that is, the church.( Our suffering unites us with Christ's suffering on the Cross. redemptive suffering

0. Luke 1:46-49

And Mary said,“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.”
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And Mary said,“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.”

Pay attention to the scripture mike:“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior

If this part is true (and it is)then Mary was a sinner in need of a savior!
Mike Peterson

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Bobby wrote:
And Mary said,“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name.”
Pay attention to the scripture mike:“My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
If this part is true (and it is)then Mary was a sinner in need of a savior!
Pay attention to the scripture. You are disobeying the Bible in your post. You are supposed to call her Blessed Mary.

Mary was "saved." Mary needed a savior! from sin in a most sublime . She was given the grace to be "saved" completely from sin so that she never committed even the slightest transgression.

Protestants tend to emphasize God’s "salvation" almost exclusively to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. However, Sacred Scripture indicates that salvation can also refer to man being protected from sinning before the fact:

Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever.(Jude 24-25)
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Pay attention to the scripture. You are disobeying the Bible in your post. You are supposed to call her Blessed Mary.
Mary was "saved." Mary needed a savior! from sin in a most sublime . She was given the grace to be "saved" completely from sin so that she never committed even the slightest transgression.
Protestants tend to emphasize God’s "salvation" almost exclusively to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. However, Sacred Scripture indicates that salvation can also refer to man being protected from sinning before the fact:
Now to him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you without blemish before the presence of his glory with rejoicing, to the only God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and for ever.(Jude 24-25)
Please show me in the NT, that Mary was free from sin. I know the Catholic Church teaches this, but where is it in the book. Grabrial did call her blessed.

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