killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#144 Jul 30, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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I do so hope you are model quality good looking because you are not going to make it with your brains. The Jews had and have a calendar. The Romans had a calendar...where do you think the names for the months and days of the week came from? It exists today as the Julian calendar. Many civilizations had calendars even the human sacrificing Mayans. Up until the Gregorian calendar which more accurately counted the rotation of the earth around the sun all calendars required huge adjustments because the earth does not take exactly 365 days to make the journey. What do you call it when the Gregorian calendar is adjusted???
So you realize you made a mistake in saying what you said. It was only a matter of time keep it accurate. So now you also realize why the calendar was created. To record history "Before Christ" and after "the year of Our Lord" and that is all it was created for. Adjustment were always made has late into the 1700's. Ps, Mayan calendar is still the most accurate that there was, and it still was up until 12/21/12. Only problem the world never used the Mayan Calendar. Learn your history.
Anonymous Proxy

Manassas, VA

#145 Jul 30, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> So you realize you made a mistake in saying what you said. It was only a matter of time keep it accurate. So now you also realize why the calendar was created. To record history "Before Christ" and after "the year of Our Lord" and that is all it was created for. Adjustment were always made has late into the 1700's. Ps, Mayan calendar is still the most accurate that there was, and it still was up until 12/21/12. Only problem the world never used the Mayan Calendar. Learn your history.
don't be to hard on him. The boy is plum ignorant.

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#146 Jul 31, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Next time you look at a Calendar remember it is a Catholic calendar you follow.
I love history.
Pope Gregory created in in 1582. Some Protestant countries resisted for many years but eventually had to give in.
For example on September 2, 1752, was a great day in the history of sleep.
That Wednesday evening, millions of British subjects in England and the colonies went peacefully to sleep and did not wake up until twelve days later.
Their calendar was off that much and they finally saw the light on the Catholic Calendar.
Yep probably is God uses all kinds of folks to accomplish his goals even Catholics.

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#147 Jul 31, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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So you are saying you really don't know or care what day it is and if you are working (which I doubt) you refuse Christmas and Easter days off if offered by your employer?
And here's another really big word for your vocabulary brought to you by the Commander and Chief of the Prots, Fr. Martin Luther, consubstantiation. That, and his approval of infant baptism should send you over the top and into Prot nirvana.
Hey if holidays are given great. Thanks for the big words dont know what they mean though but do know that the word for immersion was changed by the catholics to make the sprinkling they were doing ok. You need to work better on your insults your disappointing us.

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#148 Jul 31, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>All about power as I have pointed out many times.
Of course it had nothing to do with accuracy. Today is July 31, 2013. Thank a Catholic!

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#149 Jul 31, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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Hey if holidays are given great. Thanks for the big words dont know what they mean though but do know that the word for immersion was changed by the catholics to make the sprinkling they were doing ok. You need to work better on your insults your disappointing us.
Only Prots sprinkle. Catholics pour or immerse.

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#150 Jul 31, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Only Prots sprinkle. Catholics pour or immerse.
Where do you get pouring from?
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#151 Jul 31, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text> Where do you get pouring from?
The Apostles.

Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water;

But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.

But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."

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#152 Jul 31, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text> Where do you get pouring from?
Same place you get Welchs from.

Descriptions in the Didache, the writings of the Fathers and even catacomb frescoes give us clues. Immersion was the ordinary form of Sacramental Baptism and affusio, pouring, the extraordinary form. Clearly both were used by the early Christians.

Catholics can request immersion and some churches are now being built to accommodate this. Unlike Baptist and CofC churches Catholic baptisms take place either in a separate structure or at the entrance to the church building not against the rear wall.

For certain, the CofC never had to deal with the practicalities of baptisms in prisons or in northern winter climates or the lack of sufficient water. It's a bit easier to have total immersion in the winter when you have a big wood or coal stove or central heating!
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#153 Jul 31, 2013
Or in hospitals.

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#154 Jul 31, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> So you realize you made a mistake in saying what you said. It was only a matter of time keep it accurate. So now you also realize why the calendar was created. To record history "Before Christ" and after "the year of Our Lord" and that is all it was created for. Adjustment were always made has late into the 1700's. Ps, Mayan calendar is still the most accurate that there was, and it still was up until 12/21/12. Only problem the world never used the Mayan Calendar. Learn your history.
I did not make a mistake. What do you call the scheduled adjustment to the Gregorian calendar?

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#155 Jul 31, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
Or in hospitals.
Or on battlefields.

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#156 Jul 31, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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The Apostles.
Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water;
But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.
But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
One has to be rather ignorant to judge the Didache as spam.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#157 Jul 31, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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I did not make a mistake. What do you call the scheduled adjustment to the Gregorian calendar?
Mankind stupidity

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#158 Jul 31, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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One has to be rather ignorant to judge the Didache as spam.
No shortage of those in the CofC! Doubt they've even heard of it. How about a picture then? Check out the catacomb frescoes.

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#159 Jul 31, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Mankind stupidity
I take it you have never heard of a Leap Year! Every four years the Gregorian calendar has to be adjusted because the earth takes a bit longer than 365 days to rotate around the sun. Every four years a day is added to the month of February. 2012 was a Leap Year. Next one is 2016. You call it stupidity I call it brilliant. All calendars have that problem. The Gregorian calendar is just better at fixing it than any of the others. And here are some more:

2020
2024
2028
2032
2036
2040
2044
2048
2052
2056
2060
2064
2068
2072
2076
2080
2084
2088
2092
2096

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#160 Aug 1, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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The Apostles.
Concerning baptism, baptise thus: Having first rehearsed all these things, "baptise, in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost," in running water;
But if thou hast no running water, baptise in other water, and if thou canst not in cold, then in warm.
But if thou hast neither, pour water three times on the head "in the Name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
Would you be so kind as to give me that text.

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#161 Aug 1, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Same place you get Welchs from.
Descriptions in the Didache, the writings of the Fathers and even catacomb frescoes give us clues. Immersion was the ordinary form of Sacramental Baptism and affusio, pouring, the extraordinary form. Clearly both were used by the early Christians.
Catholics can request immersion and some churches are now being built to accommodate this. Unlike Baptist and CofC churches Catholic baptisms take place either in a separate structure or at the entrance to the church building not against the rear wall.
For certain, the CofC never had to deal with the practicalities of baptisms in prisons or in northern winter climates or the lack of sufficient water. It's a bit easier to have total immersion in the winter when you have a big wood or coal stove or central heating!
surely that can be found in the bible cant it if it is true that one can pour.

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#163 Aug 1, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
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surely that can be found in the bible cant it if it is true that one can pour.
We are certainly given texts that baptisms occurred and for what purpose. We are not given the mechanics of how or even who in every instance. We all know the CofC would tell a soldier in the desert who wished to be baptized before battle that it's too damn bad you should have thought of that before getting here.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#164 Aug 1, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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I take it you have never heard of a Leap Year! Every four years the Gregorian calendar has to be adjusted because the earth takes a bit longer than 365 days to rotate around the sun. Every four years a day is added to the month of February. 2012 was a Leap Year. Next one is 2016. You call it stupidity I call it brilliant. All calendars have that problem. The Gregorian calendar is just better at fixing it than any of the others. And here are some more:
2020
2024
2028
2032
2036
2040
2044
2048
2052
2056
2060
2064
2068
2072
2076
2080
2084
2088
2092
2096
I see your going back to twist my words around. The leap year only came in the 1700's and then installed every four years. Mayan had this already in there calendar. Now let see how you twist this around. Again, the Christian calendar that the world use is to record history before Christ and after christ. In business the jews use it, in private life, the jews still use the 5768.

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