study to show yourself approved

study to show yourself approved

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Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#1 Jul 24, 2014
We can't study a golf hand book to learn about God's desire for us. We study the word of God.

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#2 Jul 24, 2014
here will be where the Left-footers say Paul was speaking of the OT only

let us not forget that the NT is of God to. Mike seems to forget this when he needs to

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#3 Jul 24, 2014
Bobby wrote:
We can't study a golf hand book to learn about God's desire for us. We study the word of God.
Amen. Praise the Lord !!!

Now who is going to teach you? The pillar and foundation of Truth?

You always quote that verse about scripture being profitable for teaching. Somebody has to do the teaching and we know who Jesus left with that authority.

It wasn't you reading a Catholic book.
William

Birmingham, AL

#4 Jul 24, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Amen. Praise the Lord !!!

Now who is going to teach you? The pillar and foundation of Truth?

You always quote that verse about scripture being profitable for teaching. Somebody has to do the teaching and we know who Jesus left with that authority.

It wasn't you reading a Catholic book.
That "somebody" won't be standing there with you when the Final Exam happens.

So you better check everything out for yourself.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#5 Jul 24, 2014
No context whatsoever. This scripture is twisted and does not mean what 99% of what the world thinks it means.

To a PREACHER.
BE DILIGENT to show you are approved of God PREACHER.
Study does NOT mean as in study your Bible.

Which did not exist at the time except OT.

Timothy, make sure you are approved. Tell people not to strive over words, avoid empty chatter, kill the cancer out there.

Bible study is NOWHERE to be found here.
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#6 Jul 25, 2014
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but by holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I think all of us believe that the old testament was give by the unction/power of Holy spirit. I find it amusing that catholics would not believe that the Holy Spirit was not giving inspiration to the writers of the new testament. Instead they act as though the early teachers of their tradition church were given that power. If they were true believers I would have to agree, but not in the same way they do. I believe the Holy spirit indwels all believers today, something that was not true in the OT times

This is from the Apostle John who wrote this at the end of his life directed to all believers.

As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

Surely if it is true, we can have the source of all strength living in us. The same source that helped to author the scripture lives in us. The spirit of catholism does not have that power to bring all truth. Heck Mike dose not even believe he has the indwelling and guess what, it shows!

Look this one up for yourselves- 1 Corinthians 2:14
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#7 Jul 25, 2014
The question is, do we want men who are void of the Holy Spirit teaching us? To be without the Spirit means you are not even a true believer...
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#8 Jul 25, 2014
What are wolves in sheep's clothing???
Randy

Martinsville, VA

#9 Jul 25, 2014
I agree with Dave on this. The word “study” actually means, “strive”, to be “diligent”. I’m not saying bible study isn’t important because I believe it is. However, 2 Timothy 2:15 is not merely a command to be diligent in the word of truth. Also, as Dave pointed out, there wasn’t a bible at the time Paul instructed Timothy. When Paul said ‘be diligent in the word of truth’, I believe the context/prior verses are part of ‘the word of truth’. Hymenaeus and Philetus were saying that the resurrection had already happened, swerving from the truth. Paul seems to be writing Timothy so that Timothy proclaims Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, the offspring of David and combating the error of Hymenaeus and Philetus. Paul also tells Timothy that those diligent in the word of truth will share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus, avoiding civilian pursuits. Paul says, in verse 14 of 2 Timothy 2, “remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers”. It seems to me that the context speaks of something totally different than what most have interpreted 2 Timothy 2:15 to mean.
Mike_Peterson

Hattiesburg, MS

#10 Jul 25, 2014
Bobby wrote:
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but by holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I think all of us believe that the old testament was give by the unction/power of Holy spirit. I find it amusing that catholics would not believe that the Holy Spirit was not giving inspiration to the writers of the new testament. Instead they act as though the early teachers of their tradition church were given that power. If they were true believers I would have to agree, but not in the same way they do. I believe the Holy spirit indwels all believers today, something that was not true in the OT times

This is from the Apostle John who wrote this at the end of his life directed to all believers.

As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

Surely if it is true, we can have the source of all strength living in us. The same source that helped to author the scripture lives in us. The spirit of catholism does not have that power to bring all truth. Heck Mike dose not even believe he has the indwelling and guess what, it shows!

Look this one up for yourselves- 1 Corinthians 2:14
You continue to lie about what the Church teaches about the Bible

Those books are the inspired an inerrant word of God only because the Church said they were

Bobby who wrote the book of Mark and why is Luke and Mark in the Bible?

They were not Apostles.
Randy

Martinsville, VA

#11 Jul 25, 2014
I agree in regards to the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. If, however, you are contending that the Holy Spirit is teaching us directly, then it is obvious something is wrong. There would not be 40,000 denominations nor disagreement over doctrine if the Holy Spirit were teaching us. I get the jest of what you're say though and agree.
Mike_Peterson

Hattiesburg, MS

#12 Jul 25, 2014
Bobby wrote:
21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but by holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

I think all of us believe that the old testament was give by the unction/power of Holy spirit. I find it amusing that catholics would not believe that the Holy Spirit was not giving inspiration to the writers of the new testament. Instead they act as though the early teachers of their tradition church were given that power. If they were true believers I would have to agree, but not in the same way they do. I believe the Holy spirit indwels all believers today, something that was not true in the OT times

This is from the Apostle John who wrote this at the end of his life directed to all believers.

As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

Surely if it is true, we can have the source of all strength living in us. The same source that helped to author the scripture lives in us. The spirit of catholism does not have that power to bring all truth. Heck Mike dose not even believe he has the indwelling and guess what, it shows!

Look this one up for yourselves- 1 Corinthians 2:14
Do you believe everything your preacher man says?

He is your pastor
M
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#13 Jul 25, 2014
Randy wrote:
I agree in regards to the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. If, however, you are contending that the Holy Spirit is teaching us directly, then it is obvious something is wrong. There would not be 40,000 denominations nor disagreement over doctrine if the Holy Spirit were teaching us. I get the jest of what you're say though and agree.
Yes, i think we are on the same page. However the identifying mar of a christian is the fact that the Spirit lives in him.

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Here is a troubling verse:

John 13:35

35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#14 Jul 26, 2014
More work needs to be done here. Sola scriptura and one man one interpretation stinks to high heaven.
Barnsweb

Lewis Center, OH

#15 Jul 27, 2014
Bobby wrote:
What are wolves in sheep's clothing???
http://jesuswordsonly.com/reco mmendedreading/167-romans-7-a- major-incongruity.html

Paul is the wolf who divides and plunders the flock of God.

Jesus said He alone is to be our Teacher (Rabbi).

If the Lord, in the great commission, said the message He taught centers with discipleship to Him and His testimony from God, that we must abide in His words and keep them -

Of what use is the Pope or Paul?(or Alexander Campbell or John Calvin?)

And how can we know what someone teaches unless we can study what they taught to see if it fits with what God said? How do we then know who speaks for God?

So why is it that people no longer care about the truth? Most just go to hear someone that tells them what they like to hear.
Barnsweb

Lewis Center, OH

#16 Jul 27, 2014
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, i think we are on the same page. However the identifying mar of a christian is the fact that the Spirit lives in him.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.
Here is a troubling verse:
John 13:35
35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
He also said many other things, such as:

If you love me, keep my commandments.
If you abide in my word, you are my disciples indeed, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

God said He sends His Spirit to write His Commandments and Instructions on our hearts so we'll be careful to do them. The first was on stone, but we are to keep them in a living way from our heart and the new life that does the will of God from the heart in true love for God and His will/word.
Mike_Peterson

Sumrall, MS

#17 Jul 27, 2014
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>He also said many other things, such as:

If you love me, keep my commandments.
If you abide in my word, you are my disciples indeed, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

God said He sends His Spirit to write His Commandments and Instructions on our hearts so we'll be careful to do them. The first was on stone, but we are to keep them in a living way from our heart and the new life that does the will of God from the heart in true love for God and His will/word.
He also said he would build Church.
William

Birmingham, AL

#18 Jul 27, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
He also said he would build a Church.
It just doesn't happen to be your church. Your church is modeled exactly after the "church" that Jesus railed against during his earthly ministry.

But Satan is known as the master counterfeiter.
Mike_Peterson

Sumrall, MS

#19 Jul 27, 2014
William wrote:
<quoted text>It just doesn't happen to be your church. Your church is modeled exactly after the "church" that Jesus railed against during his earthly ministry.

But Satan is known as the master counterfeiter.
Which one?
Bobby

Mansfield, TX

#20 Jul 27, 2014
William wrote:
<quoted text>
It just doesn't happen to be your church. Your church is modeled exactly after the "church" that Jesus railed against during his earthly ministry.
But Satan is known as the master counterfeiter.
I would say that just about any church has counterfeit believers. Some churches are not of God- false. Because we are not called to be their Judge, i guess we will have to wait until Jesus himself separates the wheat from the tares.

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