Is salvation everlasting

Is salvation everlasting

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Since: Jul 14

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#1 Jul 18, 2014
Today we have countless professing Christians walking about as though they cannot >>> K N O W <<< they are kept secure by the power of God 1 Peter 1:5.

John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

John 10:28 - And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1 John 5:13 - These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may >>> KNOW<<< that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jude 1:24 - Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present [you] faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

Ephesians 1:13 - In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were >>>sealed<<< with that holy Spirit of promise,

Romans 5:1-21 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

John 10:27-29 - My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 6:47 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 6:40 - And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 3:36 - He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,[even] to them that believe on his name:

1 John 5:4 - For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world,[even] our faith.

1 John 3:9 - Whosoever is born of God doth not practice sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot practice sin, because he is born of God.

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#2 Jul 18, 2014
I believe every one of those verse.

I just don't believe that when Jesus said whoever hears you hears me was talking about you.

Judas comes to mind. He accepted Jesus and followed him,

I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize”(1 Cor 9:27). Here the prize is salvation, as is clear from the preceding verses. Saint Paul follows a disciplined life because he knows that there is a possibility that he might forfeit the salvation that he preaches. For this reason, in the very next chapter, Paul encourages the Christians in Corinth to do the same:“So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall”(1 Cor 10:12). The “fall” here is the “fall from grace” spoken about by Paul in Galatians 5:4. Interestingly enough, the warning about falling from grace in Galatians 5:4 is immediately followed up by Paul’s exhortation to have “faith working through love” in Galatians 5:6.

Saint Paul lists a set of sins and concludes with,“I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God”(Gal 5:21). Who is Paul warning? He is warning Christians. If they do these things, then they will fall from grace. In other words, they “shall not inherit the kingdom of God”. Paul shows that there are certain sins that are mortal. These sins disqualify a Christian from inheriting the kingdom of God. The Apostle could not explain it any more clearly. In fact, these “mortal sin lists” are a common feature of Paul’s epistles. For more examples of Paul’s lists of mortal sins, see also Rom 1:28-32; 1 Cor 6:9-10; Eph 5:3-5; Col 3:5-8; 1 Tim 1:9-10; 2 Tim 3:2-5.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#3 Jul 18, 2014
Mike is on trial each and every day... He is saved one day and lost the next. The truth is we are all guilty and need a pardon-it is called grace.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Hope you make it through purgatory-I hear it gets pretty hot in there...
Mike_Peterson

Hattiesburg, MS

#4 Jul 18, 2014
Bobby wrote:
Mike is on trial each and every day... He is saved one day and lost the next. The truth is we are all guilty and need a pardon-it is called grace.

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Hope you make it through purgatory-I hear it gets pretty hot in there...
Amen. No where did you say it was forever. It wasn't for Judas.

St Paul kept working on his salvation. I guess God likes you you better.

When do you think you were saved? In AD 32?
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#5 Jul 18, 2014
"When do you think you were saved? In AD 32?"

Some say it was Ad 33-either way -yes my salvation was procured at the cross.

Don't forget to punch the time clock or you might miss your heavenly pay check.

Since: Sep 13

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#6 Jul 18, 2014
Bobby wrote:
"When do you think you were saved? In AD 32?"
Some say it was Ad 33-either way -yes my salvation was procured at the cross.
Don't forget to punch the time clock or you might miss your heavenly pay check.
When you were born, were you already saved ?

You seem confused. Was it then or a few years ago?

If it was then, then the whole world is saved and we all are going to heaven.

Wait a minute, I forgot about old John Calvin. You were saved at the cross if you Jesus elected you to be saved.

Wait, don't you have to make an altar call, with no altar, and say a sinners prayer to the preacher man?

I almost forgot about that that old pesky baptism thing. I know you were baptized for the forgiveness of sins.

You are one of those Heinz 40,000 protesters. You hit all of those man made beliefs in your lifetime to get all your bases covered except for the Church. Thats why you go to a community church where all beliefs are accepted. One that gives 70 different degrees to different denominations.

Bobby, when were you saved and how do you know? At one time you believe baptism saved you, then you believed an altar call saved you, now that you are a Calvinist you were saved at the foot of the cross 2000 years ago.

You are going to go down to the level of " I am saved because I am a good person'".

Since: Jul 14

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#7 Jul 19, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
I believe every one of those verse.
I just don't believe that when Jesus said whoever hears you hears me was talking about you.
Judas comes to mind. He accepted Jesus and followed him,
I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize”(1 Cor 9:27). Here the prize is salvation, as is clear from the preceding verses. Saint Paul follows a disciplined life because he knows that there is a possibility that he might forfeit the salvation that he preaches. For this reason, in the very next chapter, Paul encourages the Christians in Corinth to do the same:“So, if you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don’t fall”(1 Cor 10:12). The “fall” here is the “fall from grace” spoken about by Paul in Galatians 5:4. Interestingly enough, the warning about falling from grace in Galatians 5:4 is immediately followed up by Paul’s exhortation to have “faith working through love” in Galatians 5:6.
Saint Paul lists a set of sins and concludes with,“I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God”(Gal 5:21). Who is Paul warning? He is warning Christians. If they do these things, then they will fall from grace. In other words, they “shall not inherit the kingdom of God”. Paul shows that there are certain sins that are mortal. These sins disqualify a Christian from inheriting the kingdom of God. The Apostle could not explain it any more clearly. In fact, these “mortal sin lists” are a common feature of Paul’s epistles. For more examples of Paul’s lists of mortal sins, see also Rom 1:28-32; 1 Cor 6:9-10; Eph 5:3-5; Col 3:5-8; 1 Tim 1:9-10; 2 Tim 3:2-5.
I posted this thread so you would make it clear that you indeed believe you earn a place in heaven via good works. I will use this in my upcoming book "Catholic Chaos" ;-)

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