"Rebuild the Church of Christ!"

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#21 Jul 28, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Go to Amazon and take at look at how many Bible concordances, dictionaries, multi-volume commentaries, books and Bible translations are available today...hundreds upon hundreds...yet you alone have the answer. Even Biblegateway has over 40 English versions of the Bible...yet you alone have the answer.
And as for the "supposed magnificence" of the Catholic Church, the universal Church of Christ, even though I've only seen it in photographs, Michelangelo's Pieta is answer enough to your bashing attempt.
Looks like most everything at Amazon is by protestants for the protestant market. Why is that? Don't you at least wonder?
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#22 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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What nonsense. They already know what Christ has done for them. They would't be there otherwise.
"Blessed" Mary, you don't follow the Bible do you, was the first to say yes to Jesus. She is the first Christian.
Jews never recognized themselves as Christian. Only the gentiles called themselves christian. Have you forgotten that Jesus was jewish a decendant of David.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#23 Jul 28, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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You think you alone know this! That's what happens when you sit in your parent's basement all day everyday.
Again, for some one who claims to be "christian", you insult your fellow man a lot.
William

Birmingham, AL

#24 Jul 28, 2013
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to MY gospel.- Romans 2:16

Abraham, Moses, David, John, Peter, James or Mary (!) sure never said something like that.

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#25 Jul 28, 2013
William wrote:
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to MY gospel.- Romans 2:16
Abraham, Moses, David, John, Peter, James or Mary (!) sure never said something like that.
Did you ever hear of the Paulist Fathers? Of course not.
Anonymous Proxy

Manassas, VA

#26 Jul 28, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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That's what happens when you sit in your parent's basement all day everyday.
Is that what happened to you?
Anonymous Proxy

Manassas, VA

#27 Jul 28, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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How can you stand up and preach what you think is the Truth when the guy in the Church across the street is telling their congregation something completely different? The other guy thinks they are as right as you are.
You can be leading people to eternal damnation based on your personal opinion.
Quotes from Marcus Grodi,a former protestant pastor., who has hosted The Journey Home program on ETWN and many of them are on youtube.
Just a few of the many reasons he realized he was not preaching the truth.
Revelation 14:13
And I heard a voice from heaven saying, "Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord henceforth." "Blessed indeed," says the Spirit, "that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!"
*For years, as a Calvinist preacher, I recited this verse in every funeral graveside service. I believed and taught sola fide and discounting any place for works in the process of our salvation. But then, after my last funeral service as a minister, a family member of the deceased cornered me. He asked, with a tremble in his voice,“What did you mean that Bill’s deeds follow him?” I don’t remember my response, but this was the first time I became aware of what I had been saying. This began a long study on what the New Testament and then the Early Church Fathers taught about the mysterious but necessary synergistic connection between our faith and our works.
* Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.
Ever since my adult re-awakening (read “born-again experience”) at age 21, this Proverb has been my “life verse.” It rang true as a guide for all aspects of my life and ministry, but then during my nine years as a Presbyterian minister, I became desperately frustrated by the confusion of Protestantism. I loved Jesus and believed that the Word of God was the one trustworthy, infallible rule of faith. But so did lots of the non-Presbyterian ministers and laymen I knew: Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Congregationalists, etc., etc., etc ... The problem was that we all came up with different conclusions, sometimes radically different, from the same verses. How does one “trust in the Lord with all your heart”? How can you make sure your not “leaning on your own understanding”? We all had different opinions and lists of requirements. A verse I had always trusted suddenly became nebulous, immeasurable, and unreachable.
The Catholic church is Just a s confused as any of the Protestant churches. They are worshipping the Pope who claims to be the Vicar of Christ that has Grown men called priests in robes chasing altar boys around all day and castrating them if they speak out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-174538...
They love high pitched choir boys also.
http://histclo.com/act/choir/hist/choir-histc...

They spend billions and billions of dollars covering up for their pedophile leadership under several different Popes and you expect us to believe this Pope or ant Pope is the Vicar of Christ? Says who? If I was a young lad knowing what I know I would run as fast as I could from the Pope and any of his men. NOt a good place for children in my opinion. And these are real things that the church has done so kids run real fast.
Anonymous Proxy

Manassas, VA

#28 Jul 28, 2013
This man that is the head of the Catholic church is the Vicar of Christ,you say? Would Christ allow these things to go on in his church for centuries?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/sex-...
William

Birmingham, AL

#29 Jul 28, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Did you ever hear of the Paulist Fathers? Of course not.
So what do the Esteemed Early Fathers say about Mr. Saul of Tarsus making that bold statement?

Most likely nothing, since I haven't seen the first Catholic (or anybody else, for that matter) comment on it or acknowledge it.

Maybe Amazon has some books on it.
William

Birmingham, AL

#30 Jul 28, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
This man that is the head of the Catholic church is the Vicar of Christ,you say? Would Christ allow these things to go on in his church for centuries?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/sex-...
Been going on for centuries. They took their cues from the Pharisees and haven't batted an eye since. They only address it when it threatens the cash flow, which is why the other old man hung it up. New guy looks better on TV anyway. When he smiles, at least he doesn't look like an SS commander.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#31 Jul 29, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>The Catholic church is Just a s confused as any of the Protestant churches. They are worshipping the Pope who claims to be the Vicar of Christ that has Grown men called priests in robes chasing altar boys around all day and castrating them if they speak out.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-174538...
They love high pitched choir boys also.
http://histclo.com/act/choir/hist/choir-histc...
They spend billions and billions of dollars covering up for their pedophile leadership under several different Popes and you expect us to believe this Pope or ant Pope is the Vicar of Christ? Says who? If I was a young lad knowing what I know I would run as fast as I could from the Pope and any of his men. NOt a good place for children in my opinion. And these are real things that the church has done so kids run real fast.
You must have been abused by your Pastor to keep bringing this up. I just said a Hail Mary for you.

Jesus has protected his Church from sinners from within, invading armies and protesters whom you represent for 2000 years

3 million people worshiping together. Hundreds of Millions watching on TV.

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#32 Jul 29, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Again, for some one who claims to be "christian", you insult your fellow man a lot.
Fear and knowing one is being proven wrong leads to the insult thing. Look closely on at these topix things and notice when people resort to insulting a person. Mark has good reason to insult.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#33 Jul 29, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>Fear and knowing one is being proven wrong leads to the insult thing. Look closely on at these topix things and notice when people resort to insulting a person. Mark has good reason to insult.
So that means that instead of debating the subject, you insult. No wonder the world is screwed up. What happen to "kingdom of God is within you. What happen to turn the other cheek. What happen to love your enemy. Before you judge, lest not to judge. What happen.

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#34 Jul 29, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> So that means that instead of debating the subject, you insult. No wonder the world is screwed up. What happen to "kingdom of God is within you. What happen to turn the other cheek. What happen to love your enemy. Before you judge, lest not to judge. What happen.
Good questions but I was stating the facts of why people insult.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#35 Jul 29, 2013
William wrote:
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Been going on for centuries. They took their cues from the Pharisees and haven't batted an eye since. They only address it when it threatens the cash flow, which is why the other old man hung it up. New guy looks better on TV anyway. When he smiles, at least he doesn't look like an SS commander.
You took your cues from Luther and Calvin, which have morphed all the way down to the Gospel of William.

We can all agree the Church is the pillar and foundation of Truth, created by Jesus and started by the Apostles.

And when he entered the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came up to him as he was teaching, and said,'By what authority are you doing these things, and who gave you this authority?'" (Matt. 21:23)

In addition to the Apostles in general , there is the specific case of St. Paul, whose calling truly was extraordinary, in a way that the other apostles' calling was not.

They were called by Jesus while he was still a man on the earth; St. Paul was called through a vision and a heavenly voice. Thus, we see in Scripture:

"And God did extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, so that handkerchiefs or aprons were carried away from his body to the sick, and diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them." (Acts 19:11-12)

His calling was extraordinary, and so, in keeping with this, he performed "extraordinary miracles.

This is the summary of what we find in Scripture: no man can take the responsibility or title of "pastor" to himself. Rather, he must be sent by God, either indirectly (via succession), or directly (via extraordinary calling).

If he claims the latter, his mission must be accompanied by miracles, signs and wonders as proof of his Divine vocation.

This is the challenge to you, if you are a Protestant pastor: by what authority do you claim your office? By succession? If so, demonstrate that you were called by a superior authority who himself had a legitimate claim to his office.

By extraordinary calling? If so, then show the required signs and wonders that authenticate your ministry.

You must be absolutely sure, for your own soul's sake, that your calling is legitimate.

In Numbers 16, Korah set himself up as an illegitimate authority against God's appointed authorities, and was destroyed for his act. This problem has not disappeared in our day, for we find St. Jude warning us of falling into the same sin:

"Woe to them! For they walk in the way of Cain, and abandon themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error, and perish in Korah's rebellion." (Jude 11)

You can choose to ignore this and you probably will, but that will not absolve you of the account that you will have to give before God one day regarding these issues. Ask yourself, honestly: have you set yourself up illegitimately against the legitimate authorities, The Catholic Church, who can prove their mission by succession?

Are you in danger of being destroyed for committing Korah's sin?
William

Pell City, AL

#36 Jul 29, 2013
Nope. Not in any danger. Whatsoever.
William

Birmingham, AL

#37 Jul 29, 2013
"You can choose to ignore this and you probably will, but that will not absolve you of the account that you will have to give before God one day regarding these issues."

2 Timothy 2:15

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

I've been studying.

Have you?

There will be a Final Exam.
killedjoe

White Plains, NY

#38 Jul 29, 2013
William wrote:
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So what do the Esteemed Early Fathers say about Mr. Saul of Tarsus making that bold statement?
Most likely nothing, since I haven't seen the first Catholic (or anybody else, for that matter) comment on it or acknowledge it.
Maybe Amazon has some books on it.
I ask this question a few times and nobody seem to want to answer or couldn't. Saul/Paul attacked and kill all folks who believe in the Anointed One. A miracle is suppose to have taken place when Saul/Paul was struck down and Jesus appear to him telling him to stop. Saul became blind and was told to go and see some one. When he got there his blindness was cure. Who did Saul/Paul go and see.
William

Pell City, AL

#39 Jul 29, 2013
He went to see a believing Jew. A Jew that believed that Christ was the Jewish messiah and that Israel had killed the long-prophesied messiah and son of God.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#40 Jul 29, 2013
William wrote:
"You can choose to ignore this and you probably will, but that will not absolve you of the account that you will have to give before God one day regarding these issues."
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
I've been studying.
Have you?
There will be a Final Exam.
Sure have. Been taught by the Church Jesus started. That's why he started one. It is the pillar and foundation of truth

Who has been teaching you, a Spirit? Which one?

Holy,Human or Evil? Can't be Holy unless he only speaks to you.

Are you right and the rest of Preachers in the Birmingham area wrong?

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