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William

Birmingham, AL

#62 Sep 10, 2013
They're Leavin' On a Jet Plane!

An article on the 2004 wittenburgdoor.com site talks about the Entry-Level Starter Jets

ENTRY-LEVEL, STARTER JETS

Up-and-coming Tilton impersonator Paula White owns a Hawker-Siddeley "Jet Dragon" – aptly named for the trail of smoke it would leave IF it could fly or IF she could get parts for this 1965-vintage relic. Truly a vanity purchase, it's been grounded since she bought it, just so she can SAY she has a jet.

THE CESSNA CITATION CLUB

Copeland proteges Jesse Duplantis and Jerry Savelle, plus Florida upstart Mark Bishop, each fly their own Cessna Citation 500. They cruise at 400 mph with a range of 1,400 miles and carry a price tag of about $1.25 million each.

THE GRUMMAN GULFSTREAM GUYS

Fred Price, Creflo Dollar and Brother Benny Hinn all have their own Grumman Gulfstream II's. With a two-man crew and 19 passengers, these babies cruise at 581 mph with a range of 4,275 miles. Used, they're worth about $4.5 million each.

THE BIG-BUCK BOYS, THE CHALLENGER 600s

Paul Crouch owns the current Queen of the Flying-Televangelist Fleet – a Bombardier Challenger 604. Carrying a crew of two plus 19 passengers, she cruises at 529 mph with a range of 3,860 miles. She's valued at $16.5 million, not including Paul's "special interior remodeling."

The late Ken Hagin's Challenger 601, about 10 years older than Paul's, is "only" worth about $9.6 million.· Recently exposed uberspender Joyce Meyer has her own Challenger 600. A full 18 years older than Paul's, this one's only worth a paltry $4.5 million. Let's hear it for Joyce's frugal stewardship!

KENNY COPELAND – UNDISPUTED KING OF THE FLYING COWBOYS

His Cessna Citation 550 Bravo (valued at $3.4 million), PLUS his Grumman Gulfstream II (worth $4.5 million) AND his Cessna Golden Eagle AND his Beech E-55 AND his assorted lesser aircraft AND his own airport all add up to untold millions of poor folks' dollars. But Kenny's masterstroke is the fact that he's now telling the faithful that God wants him and wife Gloria to EACH have their own Cessna Citation Ten super-jets. Flying just below the speed of sound, these state-of-the-art flying palaces carry a base sticker price of $20 million! That means when "God" has his way, the widows and orphans will have "invested" just about $50-60 million in Kenny's Heavenly Air Force.[102]

UPDATE:“Over the past several years Kenneth and Gloria Copeland have been believing God for a Cessna Citation X jet—a plane they would be able to use in fulfilling their God-appointed assignment and the calling on Kenneth Copeland Ministries to take the Word of God to the world—from the top to the bottom and all the way around. At 2 p.m. on Friday, July 22, 2005, we made the initial deposit and signed the order for Citation X #240. We will take delivery on the plane the first week of March 2006”
William

Birmingham, AL

#63 Sep 10, 2013
It's all about airplanes, boys and girls. The mega-church is just the bank to deposit the money to pay for the airplane.

Airplanes are the ultimate material status symbol. I don't care if it's a Hawker owned by a TV preacher or a B-2 owned by the US government.

Same ego applies. Just different outcomes.

Since: Jun 11

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#64 Sep 10, 2013
The Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the State of the Vatican City, Servant of the Servants of God flies commercial via Alitalia.
William

Birmingham, AL

#65 Sep 10, 2013
Alitalia =

Always
Late
In
Take-offs,
Always
Late
In
Arrivals

LMAO!
William

Birmingham, AL

#66 Sep 10, 2013
"I am with you on that. Our “standing for Israel” has just made things worse."

The Israel/Jewish lobby is extremely well-funded and powerful. Obama has had to kow-tow to it. There are more Jews living in and around the New York-to-DC corridor than there are in all of Israel. Think about that for a moment.

"My beef with Hagee and others like him is they are pushing things the direction you said while they pack their pockets full of cash all in the name of Christianity."

They are nothing but pimps. In planes. Expensive planes.

Since: Jun 11

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#67 Sep 10, 2013
William wrote:
Alitalia =
Always
Late
In
Take-offs,
Always
Late
In
Arrivals
LMAO!
unless you are the Pope!
William

Birmingham, AL

#68 Sep 10, 2013
"Unless you are the Pope!"

LOL yeah so true. I believe I remember that the Italian Air Force escorts the plane when he is on it.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#69 Sep 11, 2013
All about the Benjamins. William, enjoy your thoughts on the middle east. Seems a couple of guys on here were a little naive about the muslims.

Agree about the nukes as well. If I remember right, the Japanese emperor didn't want to surrender after the first two nukes- his advisors or warlords had to tell him it was over. Muslims are the same- they will kill each other, or someone else, until there's no one left.

As for Israel, the Christian lobby wants Israel protected not just for money, but because of the belief that the last days can be ushered in. Israel cannot be defeated before the antichrist comes to power- then the dirty little secret comes out no one wants to share. There has to be another holocaust where 2/3 of the Jews are killed. Hagee don't tell that on tee vee.
William

Birmingham, AL

#70 Sep 11, 2013
"Agree about the nukes as well. If I remember right, the Japanese emperor didn't want to surrender after the first two nukes- his advisors or warlords had to tell him it was over. Muslims are the same- they will kill each other, or someone else, until there's no one left."

It was quietly made known to the Japanese High Command that unless they surrendered, in the wake of the Nagasaki bombing, that all bets were off regarding where the third one was going to be dropped. They got the message.

"As for Israel, the Christian lobby wants Israel protected not just for money, but because of the belief that the last days can be ushered in."

One of Bush, Jr.'s "preachers" probably fed that line to him. Like God needs man's help to do anything? Sure.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#71 Sep 11, 2013
Here are the arguments for and against American involvement in the war-torn Middle Eastern nation:

FOR:

It’s the right thing to do, maybe

Let American people finally sleep at night after years of being tormented by thoughts of innocent Syrians dying

Will put thousands of honest, diligent American Tomahawk cruise missiles back to work

We’re the good guys

Syrian people deserve to be free of a psychotic, oppressive dictator for a few weeks

Moral obligation to our defense industry

Footage of missiles being launched off decks of ships, green night-vision images, aerial shots of explosions—all that good stuff

Have plenty of money, a fresh, rested military—why not?

Be nice to throw Kathryn Bigelow a bone

Chance for Obama to put an exclamation point on an already great year

It’s been a while since we did one of these things

AGAINST:

Someone might be hurt, or even die

Could turn Russia and Iran against U.S.

History

Fear of setting a precedent of military action without U.N. approval

Slight, almost infinitesimal chance intervention might be a completely ineffectual act that even further destabilizes the region, touching off massive anti-American sentiment while allowing jihadist radicals to take power

Painful memories of intervening in Rwandan genocide

It’s hard

Bashar al-Assad just had a baby. A baby!

Bush invaded a foreign country. If Obama invades a foreign country, he will be like Bush. It is not good to be like Bush.

If we ever want to patch things up with Assad, this won’t exactly make that conversation a cake walk

Situation might work itself out
William

Talladega, AL

#72 Sep 11, 2013
1-800-MOSSAD

They know how to clean up somebody else's messes.

Since: Jun 11

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#73 Sep 11, 2013
William wrote:
"Unless you are the Pope!"
LOL yeah so true. I believe I remember that the Italian Air Force escorts the plane when he is on it.
He is also a Head of State. Look how many accompany Obama...even his damn dogs get military escorts.

Since: Jun 11

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#74 Sep 11, 2013
In DC today...1,000,000 bikers 25 muslims
William

Birmingham, AL

#75 Sep 12, 2013
"He is also a Head of State. Look how many accompany Obama...even his damn dogs get military escorts."

Yeah I know. And his pets get them too.

:)

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