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former mms student

Grundy, VA

#1 Jan 6, 2012
Will the COC be the only ones in Heaven?Seems they have the ONLY ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE to obtain eternal life.No other denominations are going ....they believe and practice unBiblical doctrines.

THESE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS OR VIEWS OF SERVING GOD.

1.A sinner asking God to save him and forgive him of his sins.People who practice this ...are Hell bound.
2.A person who dies before Baptism....for any reason.These people are Hell bound.
3.A person who Just Believes on Jesus Name and Baptized...these people are Hell bound.
4.A person who professes...the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.These people are Hell Bounnd.
5.Here's a good one...Special Needs People.They are Hell bound.
6.A person who denies the Diety (Trinity) are Hell Bound.
7.A person who professes God healed them.They are Hell bound.
8.A person not Baptized in the Name of the Father,Son and HOly Ghost.If Baptized in any other name...they are Hell bound.
9.A person who observes the Lords Supper and washing of feet...are Hell bound.
10.I saved the best one for last.
Any person not Baptized by a COC Preacher...is not allowed into the COC.Though they have observed the COC ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE in another Church.These people are Hell Bound.

If you as a Person or Christian observe or practice these examples found in the Bible.You are excommunicated from Heaven.

Me a Bible believing Christian for 30 some years.Repented and Baptized Christian...I am not welcome in Heaven for my unbelieving faith in a ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE...I am a Hell bound Christian for my opposition to the COC doctrine.
I know of no other denominations...who hold to a ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE ...such as some profess on here and in the COC.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#2 Jan 6, 2012
The title should have said...are the COC ...the only ones to go to Heaven.

There will be more examples of contrary doctrines of people going to Hell for not following the ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE of the COC.Seems the COC are the only ones who know and understand the Bible...and they've only been here less then 200yrs.

Since: Dec 11

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#3 Jan 7, 2012
former mms student wrote:
Will the COC be the only ones in Heaven?Seems they have the ONLY ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE to obtain eternal life.No other denominations are going ....they believe and practice unBiblical doctrines.
THESE ARE NOT MY OPINIONS OR VIEWS OF SERVING GOD.
1.A sinner asking God to save him and forgive him of his sins.People who practice this ...are Hell bound.
2.A person who dies before Baptism....for any reason.These people are Hell bound.
3.A person who Just Believes on Jesus Name and Baptized...these people are Hell bound.
4.A person who professes...the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.These people are Hell Bounnd.
5.Here's a good one...Special Needs People.They are Hell bound.
6.A person who denies the Diety (Trinity) are Hell Bound.
7.A person who professes God healed them.They are Hell bound.
8.A person not Baptized in the Name of the Father,Son and HOly Ghost.If Baptized in any other name...they are Hell bound.
9.A person who observes the Lords Supper and washing of feet...are Hell bound.
10.I saved the best one for last.
Any person not Baptized by a COC Preacher...is not allowed into the COC.Though they have observed the COC ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE in another Church.These people are Hell Bound.
If you as a Person or Christian observe or practice these examples found in the Bible.You are excommunicated from Heaven.
Me a Bible believing Christian for 30 some years.Repented and Baptized Christian...I am not welcome in Heaven for my unbelieving faith in a ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE...I am a Hell bound Christian for my opposition to the COC doctrine.
I know of no other denominations...who hold to a ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE ...such as some profess on here and in the COC.
Wow. You really need to study "church of Christ doctrine" before you make threads like this.
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#4 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
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Wow. You really need to study "church of Christ doctrine" before you make threads like this.
Wow,you said a lot in just one sentence. It is true that Chruch of Christ doctrine is different from bible doctrine. One can learn the bible from cover to cover but then a person has to seek out a CofC preacher to get the "correct bible understanding" according to them. The CofC preacher tells you how to "understand" the bible the same way the Book of Mormon teaches how to understand the bible. Plus you have to learn CofC "slang"...like you can't say "revival", say "tent-meeting"..you can't say "joined the church", say "added to the Lord's church", etc. Here are some of their doctrines...
1. You can never be sure you are saved.
2. Only people baptized in the Churches of Christ will be saved.
3. Every time you sin you are lost until you ask forgiveness.
4. Obedience is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
5. Worship is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
6. God is reluctant to forgive.
7. Nadab and Abihu (Leviticus 10) are an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
8. Uzzah (II Samuel 6) is an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
9. Instruments of music are forbidden and unacceptable to God in church worship.
10. The Lord's Supper must be taken every Sunday.
11. I have to be worthy to take the Lord's Supper.
12. Missing a church service is a sin.

This is from an ex-church of Christ support group.
http://ex-churchofchrist.com/unbiblicalCoC.ht...

Since: Dec 11

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#5 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>Wow,you said a lot in just one sentence. It is true that Chruch of Christ doctrine is different from bible doctrine. One can learn the bible from cover to cover but then a person has to seek out a CofC preacher to get the "correct bible understanding" according to them. The CofC preacher tells you how to "understand" the bible the same way the Book of Mormon teaches how to understand the bible. Plus you have to learn CofC "slang"...like you can't say "revival", say "tent-meeting"..you can't say "joined the church", say "added to the Lord's church", etc. Here are some of their doctrines...
1. You can never be sure you are saved.
2. Only people baptized in the Churches of Christ will be saved.
3. Every time you sin you are lost until you ask forgiveness.
4. Obedience is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
5. Worship is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
6. God is reluctant to forgive.
7. Nadab and Abihu (Leviticus 10) are an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
8. Uzzah (II Samuel 6) is an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
9. Instruments of music are forbidden and unacceptable to God in church worship.
10. The Lord's Supper must be taken every Sunday.
11. I have to be worthy to take the Lord's Supper.
12. Missing a church service is a sin.
This is from an ex-church of Christ support group.
http://ex-churchofchrist.com/unbiblicalCoC.ht...
Okay, you get an 'A', you have at least looked into what they teach, although some church of Christ people may disagree on a couple of things you posted
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#6 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. You really need to study "church of Christ doctrine" before you make threads like this.
Why don't you call the local COC and ask their opinions of the reasons I gave.
It also seems everyone on here who uphold the same principles as the COC does...believes the same.
You attacked me for my opinions and some of my opinions are related in contrast to the COC doctrine.I was riddiculed and said I didn't know scriptures...seems if I do not understand the scriptures...I am lost.As well as the others who are mentioned on this list.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#7 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>Wow,you said a lot in just one sentence. It is true that Chruch of Christ doctrine is different from bible doctrine. One can learn the bible from cover to cover but then a person has to seek out a CofC preacher to get the "correct bible understanding" according to them. The CofC preacher tells you how to "understand" the bible the same way the Book of Mormon teaches how to understand the bible. Plus you have to learn CofC "slang"...like you can't say "revival", say "tent-meeting"..you can't say "joined the church", say "added to the Lord's church", etc. Here are some of their doctrines...
1. You can never be sure you are saved.
2. Only people baptized in the Churches of Christ will be saved.
3. Every time you sin you are lost until you ask forgiveness.
4. Obedience is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
5. Worship is following the blueprint in the book of Acts.
6. God is reluctant to forgive.
7. Nadab and Abihu (Leviticus 10) are an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
8. Uzzah (II Samuel 6) is an example of how we will be punished for wrong worship.
9. Instruments of music are forbidden and unacceptable to God in church worship.
10. The Lord's Supper must be taken every Sunday.
11. I have to be worthy to take the Lord's Supper.
12. Missing a church service is a sin.
This is from an ex-church of Christ support group.
http://ex-churchofchrist.com/unbiblicalCoC.ht...
Be ready to be rebuked by some on here.Who hold this doctrine isn't held by the COC.But they are real quick to point out...this isn't their doctrine.If fact they hold the same principles they attack.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#8 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
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Okay, you get an 'A', you have at least looked into what they teach, although some church of Christ people may disagree on a couple of things you posted
Maybe I should have Googled a list for my examples.

The fact remains...if you're not in the COC denomination and it's Biblical principles...we are lost and not going to Heaven.

Since: Dec 11

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#9 Jan 7, 2012
former mms student wrote:
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Why don't you call the local COC and ask their opinions of the reasons I gave.
It also seems everyone on here who uphold the same principles as the COC does...believes the same.
You attacked me for my opinions and some of my opinions are related in contrast to the COC doctrine.I was riddiculed and said I didn't know scriptures...seems if I do not understand the scriptures...I am lost.As well as the others who are mentioned on this list.
I do not need to call the church of Christ, I know what they teach. Bfranks post on here closely represents what the church of Christ teach. On the subject of baptism as it relates to remission of sins, you are ignorant of the Scriptures. That's not as attack on you, just the truth.

Since: Dec 11

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#10 Jan 7, 2012
former mms student wrote:
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Be ready to be rebuked by some on here.
No, you're wrong. I think Bfrank is right for the most part with his post. He has a few years under his belt far as studying what the church of Christ teach.

Since: Dec 11

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#11 Jan 7, 2012
former mms student wrote:
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The fact remains...if you're not in the COC denomination and it's Biblical principles...we are lost and not going to Heaven.
True. Thats pretty much what they say.
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#12 Jan 7, 2012
former mms student wrote:
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Be ready to be rebuked by some on here.Who hold this doctrine isn't held by the COC.But they are real quick to point out...this isn't their doctrine.If fact they hold the same principles they attack.
Won't be the first time,LOL. Yes, the CofC believe they & they alone are the only ones saved the only ones with the "correct" understaning of the bible & the only "true church that goes all the way back to the first church" And they will deny any notion that they are a denomination, which gives them moral superiority to condemn denominations as "manmade" even though they were manmade in the early 1800's by Thomas and Alexander Campbell, Scottish Presbyterian ministers in Pennsylvania, and Barton W. Stone, a Presbyterian minister in Kentucky who broke away from the Presbyterian church & started their own manmade church. All this is recorded history but the CofC will deny it.
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#13 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
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True. Thats pretty much what they say.
True that's what "they" say but God is the true judge of a matter...
*1 Samuel 16:7,But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
*Luke 16:15 He said to them, "You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight.
*Proverbs 16:2 All a man's ways seem innocent to him, but motives are weighed by the LORD.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#14 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
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I do not need to call the church of Christ, I know what they teach. Bfranks post on here closely represents what the church of Christ teach. On the subject of baptism as it relates to remission of sins, you are ignorant of the Scriptures. That's not as attack on you, just the truth.
See always back to Baptism.

What about the shedding of Blood for remission of sins.Seems it was shed before water was used.
What about Christ's sacrifice on Calvary...was it meant to gain access to water for salvation.Seems water baptism was here long before shedding of Jesus Blood.It did not complete salvation then and doesn't remit sins today.
I have stated before...water baptism is a symbol of Jesus's Death/burial/ressurection and not meant solely to remit sins.
I guess if some of the people on Pentecost..dies before Baptism.These were lost,because they sins were not remitted.

Bring on your COC doctrine..I have yet to find just a few who does not observe the same doctrine as the ones you have attacked before...ie Johnny..Heath72 ..Micah and others.So be sure and leave them a message like this...I am defending your doctrine to the best of my ability.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#15 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>Won't be the first time,LOL. Yes, the CofC believe they & they alone are the only ones saved the only ones with the "correct" understaning of the bible & the only "true church that goes all the way back to the first church" And they will deny any notion that they are a denomination, which gives them moral superiority to condemn denominations as "manmade" even though they were manmade in the early 1800's by Thomas and Alexander Campbell, Scottish Presbyterian ministers in Pennsylvania, and Barton W. Stone, a Presbyterian minister in Kentucky who broke away from the Presbyterian church & started their own manmade church. All this is recorded history but the CofC will deny it.
This is why I call the COC DOCTRINE...an ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE.

Certain ones of here...refuse to accept this..but it's true.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#16 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
<quoted text>
True. Thats pretty much what they say.
Finally we agree on something?
Bfrank

Martinsville, VA

#17 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>Won't be the first time,LOL. Yes, the CofC believe they & they alone are the only ones saved the only ones with the "correct" understaning of the bible & the only "true church that goes all the way back to the first church" And they will deny any notion that they are a denomination, which gives them moral superiority to condemn denominations as "manmade" even though they were manmade in the early 1800's by Thomas and Alexander Campbell, Scottish Presbyterian ministers in Pennsylvania, and Barton W. Stone, a Presbyterian minister in Kentucky who broke away from the Presbyterian church & started their own manmade church. All this is recorded history but the CofC will deny it.
Someone will probably come on here to try to "prove" that the CofC denomination existed before the 1800's using Keith Sisman's book "Traces of the Kingdom"..but Keith has been found out to be a liar. You see lots of churches used the name Churches of Christ, Catholics and Baptist....
***Sorry, Keith, but these are Baptist churches, not
"Church of Christ" churches. The article you have lifted,
without bothering to give references, is from "Baptist
History," by J.M. Cramp, 1869. You have deceitfully inserted
"church of Christ" into it in several places.

You have also employed this same nefarious practice on
your "Traces of the Kingdom" pages about Henry Denne and
Thomas Lamb. Without citing Cramp's "Baptist History" or
John T. Christian's "A History of the Baptists" (1922)
you have stolen, word for word, the works of these authors
and altered them to suit your own fantasy, deleting the
word "Baptist" at will, and inserting "church of Christ"
into the names of the churches.***

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maury_and_Baty/...
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#18 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone will probably come on here to try to "prove" that the CofC denomination existed before the 1800's using Keith Sisman's book "Traces of the Kingdom"..but Keith has been found out to be a liar. You see lots of churches used the name Churches of Christ, Catholics and Baptist....
***Sorry, Keith, but these are Baptist churches, not
"Church of Christ" churches. The article you have lifted,
without bothering to give references, is from "Baptist
History," by J.M. Cramp, 1869. You have deceitfully inserted
"church of Christ" into it in several places.
You have also employed this same nefarious practice on
your "Traces of the Kingdom" pages about Henry Denne and
Thomas Lamb. Without citing Cramp's "Baptist History" or
John T. Christian's "A History of the Baptists" (1922)
you have stolen, word for word, the works of these authors
and altered them to suit your own fantasy, deleting the
word "Baptist" at will, and inserting "church of Christ"
into the names of the churches.***
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maury_and_Baty/...
This is why I only Google the KJV Bible.Too many have stolen someone's else's ideals and changed the facts to prove their stance.

Thanks for the pages.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#19 Jan 7, 2012
Bfrank wrote:
<quoted text>
Someone will probably come on here to try to "prove" that the CofC denomination existed before the 1800's using Keith Sisman's book "Traces of the Kingdom"..but Keith has been found out to be a liar. You see lots of churches used the name Churches of Christ, Catholics and Baptist....
***Sorry, Keith, but these are Baptist churches, not
"Church of Christ" churches. The article you have lifted,
without bothering to give references, is from "Baptist
History," by J.M. Cramp, 1869. You have deceitfully inserted
"church of Christ" into it in several places.
You have also employed this same nefarious practice on
your "Traces of the Kingdom" pages about Henry Denne and
Thomas Lamb. Without citing Cramp's "Baptist History" or
John T. Christian's "A History of the Baptists" (1922)
you have stolen, word for word, the works of these authors
and altered them to suit your own fantasy, deleting the
word "Baptist" at will, and inserting "church of Christ"
into the names of the churches.***
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maury_and_Baty/...
Here is another article too.

http://churches-of-christ.ws/indextr.htm

James Bainham..a man burned at the stake and suppose to be a COC Preacher.But no historical record of him being a COC minister...except on this COC website.

Seems every church is COC to some believers.As they maintain...they go back to Pentecost.
former mms student

Grundy, VA

#20 Jan 7, 2012
regiarc ydnar wrote:
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No, you're wrong. I think Bfrank is right for the most part with his post. He has a few years under his belt far as studying what the church of Christ teach.
As I have stated and stated the facts of the list I provided.You say I am wrong in my beliefs of COC doctrine accepting my list.

Provide me with someone who say the COC accepts my list a complete lie.

I am just plain and can not articulate words for you to understand.Someone else comes along and provides...pretty much the same list.You're real quick to accept their list...ie ...Bfrank.

So this unwashed sinner...as I don't hold to water baptism (solely saving us ).

I am waiting for the Day..when the COC burns someone at the stake for contending their articles of Faith.As they are the only TRUE denomination and anyone who challenges them,are herectics.I have a pile of firewood for the burning...and matches too.Just bring the stake...or I'll supply the saw to cut a stake for you.That is why we had the Reformation....one denomination controlling EVRYONE'S THOUGHTS and no free thought allowed.It is called ABSOLUTE DOCTRINE.

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