Johnny Robertson’s church of Christ

Since: Sep 13

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#64 Oct 2, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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It's no wonder some abandon the SS groups- when all who are "led by the Spirit" come to different conclusions. Talking to you catholics has been helpful- as I read my Bible, I see that being led by the Spirit has to do with our daily lives, not Bible interpretation. Many of the arguments used against you hold no water. I will not be swimming the Tiber anytime soon, but there will be a lot less bashing from me.
It took me a few years too. The mind gets it before the heart. Then the courage dealing with family and friends takes a while.

The Journey Home. Monday nights on EWTN and on EWTN.com

Trivia:

They talk about how the CC treats women. One woman with a vision ended up with a world wide tv and radio network.

Mother Angelica. Great woman. I sure there will be a movement to make her a Saint when she dies.

Since: Sep 13

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#65 Oct 2, 2013
johnny wrote:
you boys still on this
i have a place for you if any of you man up
and come on tv and spout this nonsense
Hey Johnny. None of your fellow non-Catholic ecclesial community members wants to name one person who believes like you between AD 100 and AD 1700. Can you help them out?

Just one with his writings so we can research it.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#66 Oct 2, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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It took me a few years too. The mind gets it before the heart. Then the courage dealing with family and friends takes a while.
The Journey Home. Monday nights on EWTN and on EWTN.com
Trivia:
They talk about how the CC treats women. One woman with a vision ended up with a world wide tv and radio network.
Mother Angelica. Great woman. I sure there will be a movement to make her a Saint when she dies.
Did see one episode about two weeks ago about a black woman who was a Disciples of Christ member left and became catholic. Interesting to see the mindset behind such a move.

Since: Feb 13

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#67 Oct 3, 2013
johnny wrote:
you boys still on this
i have a place for you if any of you man up
and come on tv and spout this nonsense
Johnny is off his meds again.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#68 Oct 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Did see one episode about two weeks ago about a black woman who was a Disciples of Christ member left and became catholic. Interesting to see the mindset behind such a move.
I record each week and watch. It is a good resource for me. It has been on the air for 16 years.

Marcus runs a ministry that helps protestant pastors who convert find jobs.

Since: May 10

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#69 Oct 3, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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This is one of things a COC member is taught. Only answer a question with a Bible verse because with SS you can always prove you point with one.
Avoid all other questions with questions of your own.
There was a very interesting Journey Home program earlier this year, I believe, where this Catholic in New Orleans became of COC member and came back home 10 years later. He is now studying to be a Deacon.
He went through a lot of the indoctrination techniques.
When it comes to a simple yes and no answer and people avoid you do have problems. By the way its ok to ask questions even if it pushes your thoughts to the limit of your creed doesnt it?

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#70 Oct 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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1. It was a command for those it was written to- but they didn't need a COMMAND to greet one another. The greatest commandments cover all of this.
2. Do you NEED a COMMAND to greet the brethren? I do not.
3. In the imperative mode, commands can also be simple exhortations. Encouragement so to speak. Love and obedience does not have to be commanded- we should act out of love.
4. The NT is not a law book like Leviticus and Deuteronomy. The legalistic mindset says simple yes or no. The greater principle is, "let all that you do be done in love". If I shake hands in love, does that not fulfill the purpose of a holy kiss? Am I a lawbreaker for not following exactly as it reads? You're up junior.
So your answer is for you as a christian and for other christians today it is NOT a command????? If this is not right please correct me.
William

Fairview, NC

#71 Oct 3, 2013
This whole CENI thing that the Church of Christ touts is weird. It should stand for:

Circular reasoning
Empowering
Nonstop
Idiocy

Seriously, can it be any more obvious that it is nothing but a bush-league trick to try and get a particular dooctrinal stance to fit, using disjointed verses taken wildly out of their individual context?

Bad Intel, is what this sort of thing is called.
Dave P

Winder, GA

#72 Oct 3, 2013
William wrote:
This whole CENI thing that the Church of Christ touts is weird. It should stand for:
Circular reasoning
Empowering
Nonstop
Idiocy
Seriously, can it be any more obvious that it is nothing but a bush-league trick to try and get a particular dooctrinal stance to fit, using disjointed verses taken wildly out of their individual context?
Bad Intel, is what this sort of thing is called.
Agree. Common sense needs to go a long way toward interpretation.
Dave P

Winder, GA

#73 Oct 3, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text> So your answer is for you as a christian and for other christians today it is NOT a command????? If this is not right please correct me.
Do you need a COMMAND to greet the brethren?
Does a handshake violate the "command" to greet with a holy kiss?
What is the SPIRIT of this "command"?
William

Birmingham, AL

#74 Oct 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Agree. Common sense needs to go a long way toward interpretation.
2 Timothy 2:15 in a King James Bible is a real good place to start.

Since: Jun 11

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#75 Oct 3, 2013
JustChristian wrote:
<quoted text>When it comes to a simple yes and no answer and people avoid you do have problems. By the way its ok to ask questions even if it pushes your thoughts to the limit of your creed doesnt it?
Two questions for you:

1. Who is Daniel Sommer?

2. Who is David Lipscomb?

Do these questions push your thoughts to the limit of your creed? They should.

Since: Sep 13

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#76 Oct 3, 2013
Based on Sommer's life, it appears that former Disciple's of Christ member, Paulette Adams, who appeared on the Journey Home last month was pretty much correct.

She claimed that the "Christian Church" divided up during the Civil War, pro and anti - slavery.

When the war ended the Southern Churches were broke, busted and disgusted.

They petitioned the Northern Churches for money to rebuild buildings and for pianos and organs.

North said no and they split up into the Church of Christ (pro slavery) and the Disciples of Christ.

That is when the COC went with no instruments according to her. They pretended it was doctrine but it started as lack of funds.

Since: Jul 10

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#77 Feb 9, 2014
William wrote:
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If I were a Jew at that Pentecost and heard what Peter said then you can bet that I would have. Those people witnessed the death of their long-prophesied messiah and had a hand in killing him. Peter's exhortation is a murder indictment against the Jews, and he tells them to repent of what they did and own up to it. Repentance for them wasn't some admonition to "stop sinning and get right with the Lord by not sinning anymore," as any hack Church of Christ preacher will try to get you believe regarding what repentance actually is.
But since I am not a Jew, nor was I there at that Pentecost, I would not obey it, since the Acts 2 sermon isn't written to the likes of me. Or you. Or any one else alive today.
It was written for EVERYBODY that day in order to be saved from their sins, just like it says, for the remission of your sins. Three thousand souls were added to the church that day, and that church is the Church of Christ, Romans 16;16, Matthew 16,18, Mark 16;16, Acts 2;38

Since: Jul 10

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#78 Feb 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Based on Sommer's life, it appears that former Disciple's of Christ member, Paulette Adams, who appeared on the Journey Home last month was pretty much correct.
She claimed that the "Christian Church" divided up during the Civil War, pro and anti - slavery.
When the war ended the Southern Churches were broke, busted and disgusted.
They petitioned the Northern Churches for money to rebuild buildings and for pianos and organs.
North said no and they split up into the Church of Christ (pro slavery) and the Disciples of Christ.
That is when the COC went with no instruments according to her. They pretended it was doctrine but it started as lack of funds.
The Churches of Christ never used instruments, even when Jesus was with his apostles they sung. I do know of Churches of Christ that have started using instruments and that's sad. Those Churches of Christ who have strayed from the truth by adding instruments are to be looked upon as any man made church because of their sin in not worshipping in spirit and in truth.. The problem for all of these Churches of Christ who have erred from the truth are the fault of the elders, as they were the one's responsible for allowing it, and the seriousness of what they have done is enormous. Many new believers have become confused and those who were planning to become a Christian are also confused by what has happened to these churches that have gone by the wayside making the elders accountable to all of these souls that have become loss because of it.

Since: Jul 10

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#79 Feb 9, 2014
Whitman wrote:
http://answeringthecoc.wordpre ss.com/2013/02/28/johnny-rober tsons-church-of-christ/
Johnny Robertson insist that their church [oops I mean place they meet for worship] is not a denomination.
There is but one true church and yes those of us that are in that church are the one's that are saved, you to can be in that church if you desire to become a Christian. Go to the nearest Church of Christ and study with them and when you're ready, by believing that Jesus is the Son of God then be baptized and you to are saved. There are some Churches of Christ that have gone astray from the truth and that would be those that use instruments, which I urge you to stay away from.

Since: Jul 10

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#80 Feb 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
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Did see one episode about two weeks ago about a black woman who was a Disciples of Christ member left and became catholic. Interesting to see the mindset behind such a move.
Sad, lady goes to one false church to another, how ironic.

Since: Jul 10

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#81 Feb 9, 2014
Dave P wrote:
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Agree. Common sense needs to go a long way toward interpretation.
Explain to me why you feel this way.

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#82 Feb 9, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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It took me a few years too. The mind gets it before the heart. Then the courage dealing with family and friends takes a while.
The Journey Home. Monday nights on EWTN and on EWTN.com
Trivia:
They talk about how the CC treats women. One woman with a vision ended up with a world wide tv and radio network.
Mother Angelica. Great woman. I sure there will be a movement to make her a Saint when she dies.
God made man to be the head of the household and in church service. It's the same way as far as preaching, serving the Lord's supper, leading prayer, song leader , man is to be the one that God wants doing these positions. Women are very important in church and do have many responsibilities to tend to. I urge you to get right with God by going to the nearest Church of Christ and studying with them and when you're ready and believe that Jesus is the Son of God then all that's left is to be baptized to start your life doing God's will.

Since: Jul 10

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#83 Feb 9, 2014
Olethros wrote:
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I'm not in the Church of Christ cult. I have freedom. It's the Church of Christ that imposes slavery on people. Slavery to rules and regulations and the law. Jesus came to fulfill the law and get rid of it.
I don't do kissing and our church has instruments. Your church doesn't kiss and doesn't have instruments. According to the CoC we are all sinning.
Church of Christ is a gang of cultists. There is nothing to discuss with them. Mark Mcminnis and Micah Robertson running around like idiots wanting people to "discuss" with them. They only want attention because they're such losers.
Sir I will refrain from calling you a loser but I will have to tell you that as you are right now, your soul is lost and I urge you to listen to them so you can get right in the eyes of God. We are not a cult, no slavery is imposed on anyone, I would like for you to elaborate more on what you mean by slavery though, if you don't mind. What church do you attend? There is but one church talked about in the bible, why are you not able to see that if I may ask? Please let me know of the things that bother you and maybe I can help you see what you may be having trouble seeing.

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