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I know you don't live by the "Laws of Nature".
Nor by the laws of the constitution, they even like to re-write history-being from california- the ninth circuit court-they need to secede from the union.

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Nor by the laws of the constitution, they even like to re-write history-being from california- the ninth circuit court-they need to secede from the union.
Sorry, but California is not going anywhere and it is the Evangelistic Fundamentalist that are violating the Constitution and the laws!!!
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It is stated very plainly in the Bible that this activity is unrighteous. There is nothing to be confused about or to be "misinterpreted."
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.(I Corinthians 6:9, 10 NKJV)
Nor liars, nor bigots nor "gay haters" shall inherit the kingdom of God. Do you understand? I hope you do. You need to read the KJV in it's entirety

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Nor by the laws of the constitution, they even like to re-write history-being from california- the ninth circuit court-they need to secede from the union.
California needs to leave the United States? What? Where will we make movies and photograph celebrities?

California is has an established gay community so many gay people go there to find it. It was this sort of unity that gave rise to the gay rights movement. I know some people just HATE that - but it IS reality and your emotions about it don't matter. They are not bothering you - why are you so bothered by them?

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Sorry, but Gays and Lesbians should NEVER have to lead a chastity life in order to please others or religious folks.......in fact there are many Gays and Lesbians who have strong religious convictions even if others disagree with them!!!
Secondly.....we don't live by "Laws of Nature"......we live by the laws of the Constitution and no where in that document does it state that a married couple MUST procreate in order to have their marriage be valid in the eyes of the State or Federal Government!!!
Are you saying that if an opposite-sex couple can not naturally produce children because of infertility, being sterile or past the age of childbearing that those couple's marriage is not valid? Really, according to who? Certainly NOT the state or federal government!!!
I've known of one "gay church" - a Christian church that does not teach against homosexuality and attracts gay people who feel rejected by most Christian churches. Are there many "gay churches" in your town? Do gay people have any trouble finding a place to get married?

I have suggested that the actual gay agenda is to see that all bans on gay marriage are removed - one state at a time, if necessary. Some in this forum have suggested that the "gay agenda" is an evil plot to take over the world or something to that effect. They think that allowing gay marriage will deteriorate the morals and ethics of society and it is the beginning of the end of life as we know it. I am exaggerating, but that is how these arguments seem to me - I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that homosexuality is bad or a sin or worthy of eternal Hellfire. I can joke about that since I don't believe in Hell, but that's a serious judgement for a gay person who does believe in it.

Do you have any suggestions to how Christians can accept a homosexual lifestyle as a normal, healthy lifestyle?

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California needs to leave the United States? What? Where will we make movies and photograph celebrities?
California is has an established gay community so many gay people go there to find it. It was this sort of unity that gave rise to the gay rights movement. I know some people just HATE that - but it IS reality and your emotions about it don't matter. They are not bothering you - why are you so bothered by them?
They just have to have their nose in other people's business!!

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I've known of one "gay church" - a Christian church that does not teach against homosexuality and attracts gay people who feel rejected by most Christian churches. Are there many "gay churches" in your town? Do gay people have any trouble finding a place to get married?
I have suggested that the actual gay agenda is to see that all bans on gay marriage are removed - one state at a time, if necessary. Some in this forum have suggested that the "gay agenda" is an evil plot to take over the world or something to that effect. They think that allowing gay marriage will deteriorate the morals and ethics of society and it is the beginning of the end of life as we know it. I am exaggerating, but that is how these arguments seem to me - I cannot wrap my mind around the idea that homosexuality is bad or a sin or worthy of eternal Hellfire. I can joke about that since I don't believe in Hell, but that's a serious judgement for a gay person who does believe in it.
Do you have any suggestions to how Christians can accept a homosexual lifestyle as a normal, healthy lifestyle?
Let me see if I can answer your questions and go from there......remember that this is only my opinion, and some anti-gay folks will certainly disagree with me.

First off....there is no such thing as a "GAY" agenda......in fact the only folks who seem to know about it are those who are rather anti-gay to begin with........but if you do happen to get a copy of this supposed "GAY" agenda.....please post it as I'm certain we'd love to laugh at it:-)

Secondly.......there is NO such thing as "GAY" or "SAME-SEX" marriage......and NO "GAY" or "SAME-SEX" marriage licenses have EVER been issued in the States. It is just a Marriage License issued by the State to all legally married couples regardless of gender make-up. Some States use Party A/Party B instead of Groom/Bride and most Counties here in California have gone to a selection box.....a box that states Bride or Groom on the first line and a box to check for Bride or Groom on the second line......and the couple regardless of gender make-up can take on either the Groom's last name, the Bride's last name, can hyphen the two last names or choose a different last name if they so desire!

Thirdly........in my immediate location, there are no churches that marry Gay and Lesbian couples as it is a rural county here in California, but we did call around and found a couple of Churches willing to marry us and the Minister who did was from a UU congregation. There are several others like Lutheran, Episcopalian, MCC and others.......couples looking to find a Minister, Priest, Rabbi or other religious clergy just need to call and ask, if the answer is no....be polite and move on to the next one.

I hope this helps and I do agree that Gays and Lesbians are not committing any sin seeing as God is the supposed creator and He obviously created them to be who they are......I'm not going to get into this people are born this way, but it has been shown to be a factor of genetics, biology, hormones and environmental factors in the womb. How these come together no one truly knows and in my opinion it is irrelevant........as the younger generation grows into adulthood.......you will probably see more acceptance regarding Gays and Lesbians!!!

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I hope this helps and I do agree that Gays and Lesbians are not committing any sin seeing as God is the supposed creator and He obviously created them to be who they are......I'm not going to get into this people are born this way, but it has been shown to be a factor of genetics, biology, hormones and environmental factors in the womb. How these come together no one truly knows and in my opinion it is irrelevant........as the younger generation grows into adulthood.......you will probably see more acceptance regarding Gays and Lesbians!!!
Well you are wrong on two or three points here. Genetics has nothing to do with being a Homosexual. Choice does. Gods word disagrees with you about whether or not it is a sin to practice Homosexuallity. Man does not decide what is sin and what is not sin only God does that, and he decided long ago it is sin.

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Well you are wrong on two or three points here. Genetics has nothing to do with being a Homosexual. Choice does. Gods word disagrees with you about whether or not it is a sin to practice Homosexuallity. Man does not decide what is sin and what is not sin only God does that, and he decided long ago it is sin.
There ya go again......trying to speak FOR God.....why do supposed Christians do that? Do you not trust God? God NEVER said a word about Homosexuality......and God does decide what sin is, but NOT you:-)

Actually being Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual is as innate as being straight is.......it's NOT a choice on who we are......just who we love, marry and are intimate with!!!

By the way, know this.......you have a right to disagree with me, believe as you want to and express your feelings about this subject......but your religious beliefs END where mine begin and your religious beliefs DON'T run this Country.

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There ya go again......trying to speak FOR God.....why do supposed Christians do that? Do you not trust God? God NEVER said a word about Homosexuality......and God does decide what sin is, but NOT you:-)
Actually being Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual is as innate as being straight is.......it's NOT a choice on who we are......just who we love, marry and are intimate with!!!
By the way, know this.......you have a right to disagree with me, believe as you want to and express your feelings about this subject......but your religious beliefs END where mine begin and your religious beliefs DON'T run this Country.
Have a great day!!!
That is crazy talk, people make choices all the time, both good and bad.

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That is crazy talk, people make choices all the time, both good and bad.
That may be true......but one's sexual orientation is NOT a choice......NEVER has been and NEVER will be.......in fact the only folks who clearly have a choice about their sexual orientation would be those who are Bisexual.

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NN: Let me see if I can answer your questions and go from there......remember that this is only my opinion, and some anti-gay folks will certainly disagree with me.

ASM: Thank you, NN, for joining us.

NN: First off....there is no such thing as a "GAY" agenda......in fact the only folks who seem to know about it are those who are rather anti-gay to begin with........but if you do happen to get a copy of this supposed "GAY" agenda.....please post it as I'm certain we'd love to laugh at it:-)

ASM: I support gay rights, but I actually do little to support it other than run my mouth - perhaps that is why I am passionate about getting people to TALK about it - like I'm doing my part somehow.

NN: Secondly.......there is NO such thing as "GAY" or "SAME-SEX" marriage......and NO "GAY" or "SAME-SEX" marriage licenses have EVER been issued in the States. It is just a Marriage License issued by the State to all legally married couples regardless of gender make-up. Some States use Party A/Party B instead of Groom/Bride and most Counties here in California have gone to a selection box.....a box that states Bride or Groom on the first line and a box to check for Bride or Groom on the second line......and the couple regardless of gender make-up can take on either the Groom's last name, the Bride's last name, can hyphen the two last names or choose a different last name if they so desire!

ASM: I have described the ban of "gay marriage" as sexual discrimination - people are not allowed a standard marriage agreement because of their gender and I have always imagined that the solution to this issue is to simply issue marriage licences without any reference to gender. I still feel the need to differentiate between heterosexual and homosexual marriage since there are still laws that differentiate. The "goal" or "agenda" of the "gay rights" movement is to remove gender as a condition to enter any legal agreement. Am I right?

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NN: Thirdly........in my immediate location, there are no churches that marry Gay and Lesbian couples as it is a rural county here in California, but we did call around and found a couple of Churches willing to marry us and the Minister who did was from a UU congregation. There are several others like Lutheran, Episcopalian, MCC and others.......couples looking to find a Minister, Priest, Rabbi or other religious clergy just need to call and ask, if the answer is no....be polite and move on to the next one.

ASM: So, you are saying: you understand that performing same-sex marriages is very offensive to some church leaders and so you choose to be respectful to those churches who decline to perform your same-sex marriage? THESE Christians probably think it is nice of you to do that, but firmly believe that not ALL gay couples will act this way. They expect to be legally required to perform gay marriages. Is this a substantiated fear?

NN: I hope this helps and I do agree that Gays and Lesbians are not committing any sin seeing as God is the supposed creator and He obviously created them to be who they are......I'm not going to get into this people are born this way, but it has been shown to be a factor of genetics, biology, hormones and environmental factors in the womb. How these come together no one truly knows and in my opinion it is irrelevant........as the younger generation grows into adulthood.......you will probably see more acceptance regarding Gays and Lesbians!!!

ASM: I don't really care WHY there are gay people - I just want everyone to acknowledge that there ARE gay people - and those people should be treated equally under the law. However you got to be gay, it happened, and now: you are gay, that's OK, and there's no reason to change yourself - unless YOU believe that being gay is a sin and YOU choose not to sin - it that case, it is OK to be gay and refrain from sexual activity and participate in Fundamentalist Christianity (?)- those Christians that specifically do not support homosexuality. I am learning that homosexuality=sin is NOT taught by some Christians. I am learning that "Christianity" covers a much broader collection of ideas than I had at first suspected.

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I still feel the need to differentiate between heterosexual and homosexual marriage since there are still laws that differentiate. The "goal" or "agenda" of the "gay rights" movement is to remove gender as a condition to enter any legal agreement. Am I right?
It's not so much to remove gender as a condition to enter into a legal agreement, it's about allowing Gays and Lesbians the same right to marry the person of their choosing without regard to a specific gender make-up........a lot like marriage was before the Loving decision in 1968.

With Section 3 of DOMA basically gone, marriage doesn't need to be defined as just between a man and a woman.......those who are legally married will now be treated the same at the State level and pretty much the federal level with regards to rights, benefits and privileges......where the difference will remain is under Section 2 of DOMA, which states that one state is still allowed to discriminate by not recognizing the marriage of a Same-Sex Couple from one of the 13 states that currently allow it!

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ASM: So, you are saying: you understand that performing same-sex marriages is very offensive to some church leaders and so you choose to be respectful to those churches who decline to perform your same-sex marriage? THESE Christians probably think it is nice of you to do that, but firmly believe that not ALL gay couples will act this way. They expect to be legally required to perform gay marriages. Is this a substantiated fear?
NN: I hope this helps and I do agree that Gays and Lesbians are not committing any sin seeing as God is the supposed creator and He obviously created them to be who they are......I'm not going to get into this people are born this way, but it has been shown to be a factor of genetics, biology, hormones and environmental factors in the womb. How these come together no one truly knows and in my opinion it is irrelevant........as the younger generation grows into adulthood.......you will probably see more acceptance regarding Gays and Lesbians!!!
ASM: I don't really care WHY there are gay people - I just want everyone to acknowledge that there ARE gay people - and those people should be treated equally under the law. However you got to be gay, it happened, and now: you are gay, that's OK, and there's no reason to change yourself - unless YOU believe that being gay is a sin and YOU choose not to sin - it that case, it is OK to be gay and refrain from sexual activity and participate in Fundamentalist Christianity (?)- those Christians that specifically do not support homosexuality. I am learning that homosexuality=sin is NOT taught by some Christians. I am learning that "Christianity" covers a much broader collection of ideas than I had at first suspected.
I know that certain Christians feel that allowing Gay and Lesbian couples to marry infringes upon their religious freedoms, but in reality it doesn't........because of the separation of Church and State, Churches will NEVER be forced to perform ANY marriage that is not within their doctrine.....plain and simple.........there are also certain Christians who will say but what about this Church that was sued in New Jersey.......and my comment would be that the Church itself wasn't sued, but the Pavilion that had been used by the public was denied to a Lesbian couple for their Civil Union reception.......and with the legislators passing these Marriage Equality Acts.......they are putting in more exceptions to prevent these types of lawsuits.......but they only cover the Church itself not florists, cake decorators or others who claim religious convictions as to why they should be allowed to discriminate!

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Well you are wrong on two or three points here. Genetics has nothing to do with being a Homosexual. Choice does. Gods word disagrees with you about whether or not it is a sin to practice Homosexuallity. Man does not decide what is sin and what is not sin only God does that, and he decided long ago it is sin.
How can you determine that genetics have nothing to do with homosexuality? Certainly your biological chemical make up has everything to do with your personality. Perhaps a gay person has gay thoughts and chooses to ignore them - does that make him less gay?

I will agree that it is any person's choice to engage in any sexual activity but you are equating homosexual activity to homosexual people. Gay people are gay, even when no sexual activity is involved. You are saying that gay people can choose to be heterosexual by avoiding homosexual activity. That's not true. "Gay" describes a person's personality, not their activities.

You decide what is sinful when you decide to trust and respect the words of the Bible or the teachings of a church. You "know" what is sinful because you believe what you have been taught - other Christians interpret that the Bible does not damn homosexuality - you all have different opinions of what you "know" to be true - what you "know" to be God's will is your opinion and yours only really applies to you.

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That may be true......but one's sexual orientation is NOT a choice......NEVER has been and NEVER will be.......in fact the only folks who clearly have a choice about their sexual orientation would be those who are Bisexual.
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Participating in sex is the choice and Homosexual practice is spoken of God as sin as you well know. If you dont then you dont read the bible which is the word of God.

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There ya go again......trying to speak FOR God.....why do supposed Christians do that? Do you not trust God? God NEVER said a word about Homosexuality......and God does decide what sin is, but NOT you:-)
Actually being Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual is as innate as being straight is.......it's NOT a choice on who we are......just who we love, marry and are intimate with!!!
By the way, know this.......you have a right to disagree with me, believe as you want to and express your feelings about this subject......but your religious beliefs END where mine begin and your religious beliefs DON'T run this Country.
Have a great day!!!
God speaking

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8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 [f]and [g]immoral men [h]and homosexuals [i]and kidnappers [j]and liars [k]and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

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Participating in sex is the choice and Homosexual practice is spoken of God as sin as you well know. If you dont then you dont read the bible which is the word of God.
That is correct that who we decide to be intimate with is a choice......that applies to anyone regardless of sexual orientation....BUT who I am and who I am attracted to is NOT a choice and I'm not going to live my life by your religious beliefs or bible!!!

Oh and I've read the bible.....no where in it does God EVER speak about Homosexuality......Paul/Saul does....but NOT God......and the only thing that God actually gave us were the 10 Commandments.......everything else in the bible was written by mere mortal man who wanted to be Gods(just like you do) and control the masses!!!

That being said, you still are allowed to believe as you see fit.....but you are NOT allowed to dictate your beliefs on me!!!

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Not God speaking......just man writing!!!

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