Talk About Homosexuality
Iknow

Columbus, GA

#575 Sep 2, 2013
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Again - you can denounce Jesus til the cows come home but it doesn't change reality - and fact.
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I'm not sure what "bible" you are reading, but God's Word is crystal clear on homosexuality - as well as all other sin in our society.
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And no, I'm not trying to tell you what to do with your life - or with your eternal soul. That decision is squarely on each person's shoulders - not mine. God allows us ALL to make our own choices in life - BUT - as with a traditional family in regards to a parent-child relationship, there ARE consequences attached to every one of our decisions.
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For example - a six year old wants the cookies before dinner. The parent says 'no'. The child can either obey the parent, or suffer the consequences. It's the child's decision whether he or she wants to obey the rule.
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If he/she obeys, there is healthy discipline which will help the child mature in knowing their boundries.
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If he/she chooses to not obey, then the child will have to learn that with every decision made, there are consequences.
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Yes, it really is that simple.
Iknow

Columbus, GA

#576 Sep 2, 2013
And to NorCal Native - I'm not ignoring you, and I read what you wrote.
What you wrote is your opinion - as what I wrote is my opinion.
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Again - ALL of us must make our own decisions in life - who/what we are going to follow and who we are going to worship.
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At the end of the day (and time), it comes down to only two choices: God or satan. If you go against God, then you are aligning yourself with satan.
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Politics, race, gender, etc. aren't even an issue in what truly matters - I pray that you will come to understand that.
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Iknow

Columbus, GA

#577 Sep 2, 2013
Also - it might be helpful for you to know that God, Jesus, the Holly Spirit and God's Word - are not "religion". God is God - He is not a "religion" - He is God, our Holy Creator.
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Mankind is who is responsible for creating (making up) all of these "religions" in our society today.
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So don't blame God for something we (mankind) decided to create.
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Society (via satan) has billions of people deceived though - and he will carry those who follow him straight down to the pit of hell. THAT is his goal. And from reading some of these comments, it appears that, sadly, he is doing a great job.
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Don't allow satan to steal your eternal life - he dresses things up to appear pretty and normal. He does this for one purpose - to DECEIVE us.
Be smarter than him.
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Since: Jun 11

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#578 Sep 2, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Well, another person who thinks that everyone should adhere to their personal religious beliefs......and YES, it is DISCRIMINATION........regardle ss of how your god or you see it!!!
I betting you discriminate against something or someone from the minute you wake up in the morning until the minute you go to sleep at night just like everyone else does.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

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#579 Sep 2, 2013
Iknow wrote:
Same old babbling regarding what some want to believe, sorry.....God NEVER mentioned homosexuality in the Bible.......and those who INSIST that God did, are wrong.......and you are entitled to be an Evangelistic Fundamentalist all ya want.......but until you LIVE by your bible word for word, chapter for chapter......DON'T even try to use your bible to bash me.......besides, I don't believe in that mythical book anyways.......I believe in my spiritual path with God Himself and He alone will judge me.....and until that time......you and every other mortal Fundamentalist can take your beliefs and shove them some place because I'm tired of ya walking over my right to believe as I do!!!

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#580 Sep 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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I betting you discriminate against something or someone from the minute you wake up in the morning until the minute you go to sleep at night just like everyone else does.
You'd be wrong regarding that!!!

Since: Jun 11

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#581 Sep 2, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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You'd be wrong regarding that!!!
You just discriminated.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#582 Sep 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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You just discriminated.
I didn't discriminate against you......I started you were wrong regarding what you stated about me.....obviously you don't know the difference!!!

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#583 Sep 2, 2013
Sorry, should read STATED, not started......lol!!!

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MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#584 Sep 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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You just discriminated.
It is clear that you don't know the difference between discrimination and opinions.....and that's truly sad.......I have LOTS of opinions about many things, but I don't discriminate against ANYONE because I'm not in a position to!!!
Iknow

Columbus, GA

#585 Sep 2, 2013
NoCal Native - I'm not "bashing" you, at all. I'm trying to show you that Jesus knows NONE of us are perfect - far from it.
But you only need to trust HIM for your eternal salvation - and He can, and will, wash your heart clean.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#586 Sep 2, 2013
Iknow wrote:
NoCal Native - I'm not "bashing" you, at all. I'm trying to show you that Jesus knows NONE of us are perfect - far from it.
But you only need to trust HIM for your eternal salvation - and He can, and will, wash your heart clean.
Yes, you are bashing me with your personal religious beliefs EVEN after I've told you that I DON'T believe as you do......therefore to continue to try and show me what you believe thinking that I am going to change my beliefs to fall in line with yours is considered HARASSMENT.......I don't need Jesus to do ANYTHING for me......I have the HIGHEST of powers looking after me and my soul....his name is GOD!!!
Iknow

Columbus, GA

#587 Sep 2, 2013
NoCal Native - if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal Saviour, your soul is lost. That is not me attacking or discriminating against you, either.
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It sounds like you have created a "god" in your mind who is all accepting, and all agreeable with what makes *you* not feel guilty.
That isn't a "god" - that is a genie - which God Almighty is not.
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Iknow

Columbus, GA

#588 Sep 2, 2013
Jesus forgives - and He can and will change us - our hearts, minds and mentalities.
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But it's up to US to reach out and call on Him.
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But don't call on a "god" that you, or society, has created in their minds who will allow them to do whatever feels good to them - because guess who that would be - yes, satan - he'll help you to fulfill your wildest fleshly fantasies. But - like I said before - for every decision, there are consequences.
I don't think you want satan's consequences.
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“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#589 Sep 2, 2013
Iknow wrote:
NoCal Native - if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal Saviour, your soul is lost.
Actually, there you go again with trying to inject your beliefs over mine......and you'd be wrong.

Why would I need the son of God to watch over me when God Himself is already doing that?

And it is you and those like you that have made God into their own image.....especially when you god has issues with the same things you do!!!

Since: Jun 11

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#590 Sep 2, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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It is clear that you don't know the difference between discrimination and opinions.....and that's truly sad.......I have LOTS of opinions about many things, but I don't discriminate against ANYONE because I'm not in a position to!!!
Having an opinion IS discrimination! You are basing your behavior on what you think about something or someone! So who would you prefer as a next door neighbor? Ghetto trash or gay ghetto trash?
I am going to discriminate by offering my opinion. Having had both, neither one.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#591 Sep 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Having an opinion IS discrimination!
And this comment alone proves my point!!!

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#592 Sep 2, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
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Having an opinion IS discrimination! You are basing your behavior on what you think about something or someone! So who would you prefer as a next door neighbor? Ghetto trash or gay ghetto trash?
I am going to discriminate by offering my opinion. Having had both, neither one.
Wiki say:

Discrimination is the prejudicial and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated." It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination

And the dict say:

discriminate &#8194;

to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discri...

So - your "opinion" that everyone other than you sux is not discrimination, MarkEden - that's just hate.

Discrimination is not what you THINK about people - it is how you treat people.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#593 Sep 2, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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Wiki say:
Discrimination is the prejudicial and/or distinguishing treatment of an individual based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated." It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction, influencing the individual's actual behavior towards the group or the group leader, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination
And the dict say:
discriminate &#8194;
to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality: The new law discriminates against foreigners. He discriminates in favor of his relatives.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/discri...
So - your "opinion" that everyone other than you sux is not discrimination, MarkEden - that's just hate.
Discrimination is not what you THINK about people - it is how you treat people.
This truly might help some understand the difference between an opinion and a physical action known as discrimination.

Since: Jul 12

Welch, WV

#594 Sep 2, 2013
Iknow wrote:
Your stance is similar to the black community's claim of "racism" every time someone "offends" them by saying or doing something they don't agree with.
Are you suggesting that there are no legitimate claims of racism?
Iknow wrote:
And yes, being homosexual is being made "law" across the globe - but that doesn't change God's law(s). Mankind can change all the laws he wants but it won't change what God's Word has said. And yes, God has the final say in this issue - and every other secular debate.
Actually, the US has been pretty consistent about allowing homosexuality - I'm not sure when it was last "against the law" - the real law, the one that in enforced and applies towards all citizens. The current issue is that homosexuals would like for the GOVERNMENT (not you) to allow them the same benefits that they allow heterosexual people. People like you who have decided against acknowledging homosexual relationships are PREVENTING these efforts towards equal rights. Why do you feel like your religious beliefs should rule the government?
Iknow wrote:
If you read the Bible, you will understand that in the end days, as we are now in, sin rules the day - evil takes over the good in this world - but only for a lit'l while. The gay lifestyle will become the "norm" and people such as myself will become the persecuted.
I don't read the Bible much, but I do remember the part about how no one could possibly know when Jesus is returning - why do you feel certain that these are "end days"? Is your inability to prevent homosexuality and enforce your view on other people the way you are being persecuted?
Iknow wrote:
All of this (ALL) has already been revealed to us via the Holy Bible. The homosexuals can claim to not believe in God or the Bible all they want, but that doesn't change anything, not one single thing of God's plan.
Some gay people claim to know God despite your interpretation of the Bible. Religious beliefs are personal and "chosen", not applicable to those who have no interest in them.
Iknow wrote:
The good news? Jesus will heal you of the desire to lust after another person - be it homosexual or straight. BUT - He leaves it up to us to ask. That's all - just ask Him with all sincerity.
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Why do you assume gay people lust after other people? If a gay person does not lust after someone, does that make them not gay? I am a married heterosexual person - is it OK for me to act lustfully towards my spouse? I thought that was why I got a license. If gay people had licenses, would it be OK for them to lust after the person they desire? OR, are you saying that God is just against sex? I wonder why he created us with sexual desires if he did not mean for us to use them. Hmm.

I do not believe God created me to deny my sexuality - I believe my parents created me WITH their sexuality. Thanks, Mom and Dad!

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