killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#328 Jul 20, 2013
William wrote:
"We are all sinners. But if you read the revelation, people of the cloth have a lot to answer to."
So, their sins are "worse" than "non-cloth" sins?
That what it say. Spread God's word and then saying homo is OK, adultery is OK. What do you think. You can question all you. When to time comes, if you want, go ask this to the eternal.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#329 Jul 20, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>I don't understand your question. The Spirit of God was poured out on the of Pentecost but the blasphemy I thought was when they attributed the work of the Holy Spirit to the devil. Some say they knew it was the Holy Spirit and it was not ignorance which made it blasphemy, bible doesn't say that. But I don't think I understand your question.
Thru out the Bible in both the OT and NT, the Ord said thru the Prphets and jesus that the Glory of the lord will come down upon you. On the night that Jesus was arrested, all the Apostle ran like "chicken little". Peter stay near, but when question, he denied him. When the Holy Ghost came or The Lord's glory, they had no fear on what could happen to them. They went and proclaim the word of the LOrd. Glory is Wisdom, Knowledge of who we are.
Donna

Martinsville, VA

#330 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
We aren't discussing the bible, one's religious views or your particular religious beliefs and this Country is not guided by your beliefs.........and for those who don't believe in your God, they are free NOT to be governed by your God!!!
If you want to discuss religion.....go to the Christian Forum!
Yes,you can choose not to believe the truth about God, but the bible says-
>Fools say to themselves, "There is no God." They are corrupt and commit evil deeds; not one of them practices what is good.Psalm 14:1
Yes,you can choose not to be governed by God -BUT- then you give yourself over to another ruler the devil.
>This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God's child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.1John 3:10

No matter how you cut it,everyone is under the rule of someone.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#331 Jul 20, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Your right, Don't steal, let us go and rob a house. Don't lie, let go to court to tell the judge, even we know that he commit the murder, let say he didn't. Let kill anybody we don't like, cause we are not govern by God's rules. Anything else that that has a moral code that is of god, that you don't want to think is right. the difference here you have the right not to believe that they are not god's laws, and here you can scream on the corner and say it. Try saying this some where else and see where it's get you. Remember to become a nation, we declared to the world in 1776, that we are endowed by our CREATOR, what part you don't understand, with certain right. LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PERSUE OF HAPPINESS. The laws of the land is base on this Declaration. Media has you brainwash and blind.
So, are you saying that only Homosexuals do those things? I mean this thread is supposedly discussing Homosexuality......and yet, more religion is being discussed....wonder why?

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#332 Jul 20, 2013
Donna wrote:
No matter how you cut it,everyone is under the rule of someone.
You're right.....and we as Citizens of the United States of America are under the LAWS of the Constitution......NOT some bible!!!

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#333 Jul 20, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
Remember to become a nation, we declared to the world in 1776, that we are endowed by our CREATOR, what part you don't understand, with certain right. LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PERSUE OF HAPPINESS. The laws of the land is base on this Declaration. Media has you brainwash and blind.
Our Creator in the Declaration of Independence DOES NOT necessarily mean GOD......that's why this Country has NO National Religion!!!!

The laws of this land are based on the CONSTITUTION......not the Declaration of Independence!!!

One is how we are governed and the other is a nice document, but has NO legal standing!!!!

Civics 101 teaches that!!!
William

Birmingham, AL

#334 Jul 20, 2013
"They are corrupt and commit evil deeds; not one of them practices what is good."

NOT ONE of them practices what is good. This includes ALL of us, not just a homosexual.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#335 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
So, are you saying that only Homosexuals do those things? I mean this thread is supposedly discussing Homosexuality......and yet, more religion is being discussed....wonder why?
There you go again, twisting words for your liking. I never said what you claim to say I said. Read my respond to the question that the constitution is not God's law. If you are going to disagree, at least think on what your saying. Again, the media has you blind. If you defend homosexuality, then you are condemning the bible and the moral code that it request us to live by. Talk homo, your going to get bible responds. Most people really think that homosexuality is a sickness. I don't know.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#336 Jul 20, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>I basically agree with what you say and that disturbs me. I have slapped myself three times already.
Because all Protestants have about 1/2 the truth.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#337 Jul 20, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> We are all sinners. But if you read the revelation, people of the cloth have a lot to answer to.
And members of the CC have a lot more to answer to. If you know the fullness of the truth you are given more. If you are given more, more is expected of you.

If you are born into heresy, you have some degree in Invincible Ignorance.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#338 Jul 20, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
And members of the CC have a lot more to answer to. If you know the fullness of the truth you are given more. If you are given more, more is expected of you.
If you are born into heresy, you have some degree in Invincible Ignorance.
Did you come up with that one? Quite poetic:'Invincible Ignorance:-)

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#339 Jul 20, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> There you go again, twisting words for your liking. I never said what you claim to say I said. Read my respond to the question that the constitution is not God's law. If you are going to disagree, at least think on what your saying. Again, the media has you blind. If you defend homosexuality, then you are condemning the bible and the moral code that it request us to live by. Talk homo, your going to get bible responds. Most people really think that homosexuality is a sickness. I don't know.
Sorry, but speaking about Gays and Lesbians has NOTHING to do with your bible or religious beliefs because we DO NOT live by the Bible...plain and simple!!!

I condemn the bible as nothing more than a story book and it has NO MORAL code......and it doesn't request ANYONE to live by it......I am a moral person, but it doesn't mean I live by that silly mythical book!!!

There is NOTHING wrong with being Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex or Straight......ALL are normal variations of human sexuality......and to ASSume that it is a sickness is just garbage........I'm neither sick nor abnormal......I'm just not interested in being intimate with men.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#340 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Our Creator in the Declaration of Independence DOES NOT necessarily mean GOD......that's why this Country has NO National Religion!!!!
The laws of this land are based on the CONSTITUTION......not the Declaration of Independence!!!
One is how we are governed and the other is a nice document, but has NO legal standing!!!!
Civics 101 teaches that!!!
You have a very good talent of twisting words around. You should get a job at NBC, better yet MSNBC. editing tape to make it look like some one said something , when they never said. Ok, I'll play your game. Who is the Creator mention in the Declaration. I am curious how you are going to twist it to look like something you can see. Just to let you know is that the Declaration is the reason the colonies went again the crown. It gave reasons like their right has Englishman were not in existent. Soldiers enter people homes with a warrant, It gave arrest without trial or charges. Etc Etc. Today we call them the "Bill of Rights" in the Constitution. The right were violated because these were the right of LIFE LIBERTY AND THE PERSUe of HAPPINESS. I guess your a typical american who never read the declaration thru but whatever the Media says it must be true. Now with these violations done to the colonies, the right of the people were written into constitution.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#341 Jul 20, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
And members of the CC have a lot more to answer to. If you know the fullness of the truth you are given more. If you are given more, more is expected of you.
If you are born into heresy, you have some degree in Invincible Ignorance.
Correct
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#342 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
You're right.....and we as Citizens of the United States of America are under the LAWS of the Constitution......NOT some bible!!!
If it not under "some bible" like you say, why is it we swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth. Why do we when a new mayor senator, gov, congress, even the president, an oath is sworn with the person right hand on the bible and his left hand held to the pledge.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#343 Jul 20, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you come up with that one? Quite poetic:'Invincible Ignorance:-)
Can't take credit. It comes from the Church, a doctrine that is thousands of years old. In the CCC is refers more to morality.

But here are some examples from an author in the religious sphere.

•the rejection of Christianity by many Jews, who are still awaiting the kind of Messiah that they have been told will come as the descendant of King David to restore Israel to its rightful glory among the nations

•Protestants who simply can’t wrap their head around the scandals that Jesus warned would come “necessarily”(Mt. 18:7; Lk. 17:1) in the Church, and thus do not investigate what the Church teaches, but have turned to a book (the Bible), a very fallible source for direction and salvation

•the Sister Churches of Orthodoxy, still nursing grievances from past millennia, and, despite agreement with Catholics on many doctrinal and moral teachings, eschewing Christian unity because of disbelief that the Apostle Peter could have made the mistake of conferring primacy on the Church of Rome rather than an on Eastern capitol such as Constantinople

•Muslims and Mormons who are completely engulfed in the close embrace of a massive and tightly knit post-Christian cult, facing social ostracism or worse for “apostasy”

•pagans who have simply never been exposed to the beauty of the faith, or have been forcibly kept away by authorities from any opportunity of exposure
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#344 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but speaking about Gays and Lesbians has NOTHING to do with your bible or religious beliefs because we DO NOT live by the Bible...plain and simple!!!
I condemn the bible as nothing more than a story book and it has NO MORAL code......and it doesn't request ANYONE to live by it......I am a moral person, but it doesn't mean I live by that silly mythical book!!!
There is NOTHING wrong with being Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex or Straight......ALL are normal variations of human sexuality......and to ASSume that it is a sickness is just garbage........I'm neither sick nor abnormal......I'm just not interested in being intimate with men.
You better pray to the person you don't believe in and make sure that no foreign land come here and take over. Have you been any where in this world and saw real proverty. Have you ever saw a young person fighting a dog for scapes By you saying your sexual being has nothing to do with the bible which you say are just stories and it is not a moral code really scares me. The fact that you say it not a moral code to live by alone say to me that you think that it alright to anything you want and not worry about what effect you have on your fellow man.
Mike Peterson

Jackson, MS

#345 Jul 20, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but speaking about Gays and Lesbians has NOTHING to do with your bible or religious beliefs because we DO NOT live by the Bible...plain and simple!!!
I condemn the bible as nothing more than a story book and it has NO MORAL code......and it doesn't request ANYONE to live by it......I am a moral person, but it doesn't mean I live by that silly mythical book!!!
There is NOTHING wrong with being Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Questioning, Intersex or Straight......ALL are normal variations of human sexuality......and to ASSume that it is a sickness is just garbage........I'm neither sick nor abnormal......I'm just not interested in being intimate with men.
Absurd:

Normal
Noun: The usual, average, or typical state or condition.



You can believe or not believe in anything you want, but SSA is deviant from normal.

How can a "variation" be normal.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#346 Jul 20, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't take credit. It comes from the Church, a doctrine that is thousands of years old. In the CCC is refers more to morality.
But here are some examples from an author in the religious sphere.
•the rejection of Christianity by many Jews, who are still awaiting the kind of Messiah that they have been told will come as the descendant of King David to restore Israel to its rightful glory among the nations
•Protestants who simply can’t wrap their head around the scandals that Jesus warned would come “necessarily”(Mt. 18:7; Lk. 17:1) in the Church, and thus do not investigate what the Church teaches, but have turned to a book (the Bible), a very fallible source for direction and salvation
•the Sister Churches of Orthodoxy, still nursing grievances from past millennia, and, despite agreement with Catholics on many doctrinal and moral teachings, eschewing Christian unity because of disbelief that the Apostle Peter could have made the mistake of conferring primacy on the Church of Rome rather than an on Eastern capitol such as Constantinople
•Muslims and Mormons who are completely engulfed in the close embrace of a massive and tightly knit post-Christian cult, facing social ostracism or worse for “apostasy”
•pagans who have simply never been exposed to the beauty of the faith, or have been forcibly kept away by authorities from any opportunity of exposure
There was even a time when Gutenberg invented the printing press, the CC proclaim a doctrine forbidden the people to read the bible.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#347 Jul 20, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
Who is the Creator mention in the Declaration. I am curious how you are going to twist it to look like something you can see. Just to let you know is that the Declaration is the reason the colonies went again the crown. Today we call them the "Bill of Rights" in the Constitution.

I guess your a typical american who never read the declaration thru but whatever the Media says it must be true. Now with these violations done to the colonies, the right of the people were written into constitution.
The Creator can be anyone or thing you want it to be......for some it could be God, for others, who knows!!!

You accuse me of twisting your flipping words and then you turn around and make false claims about what I know regarding both the Declaration and Constitution.......man, either have a discussion or ignore me....but don't accuse me of what you THINK I know!!!

Tell me something.....have you EVER served in the Military? My guess or opinion is that you haven't because you keep insisting that the Declaration of Independence is somehow more important than the Constitution.......and I know that when I sworn an Oath to this Country to protect against ALL enemies foreign and domestic.......it NEVER said a damn thing about the Declaration.......but it clearly mention the Constitution!!!

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