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#226
Jul 18, 2013
 
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Again, It does not say that Jesus is the only son, it says only Begotten son, another words came human. The bible does not contradicts itself, we contradicts the bible because of our ignorance of who we are. Has you say, science is an on going process. Like the bible you claim to say full of "myths" and contradicts, this is the same process also. The more we learn, the more we understand who we are. Today, base on science, there is no way that we are alone in the universe, but for some reason, this contradict the bible. It does not. it is confirming. The question we should be asking is, with the universe full of life, why are we alone. This is the theme of the bible. To redeem us back to the family of the universe. But you mention the devil. Yes he does exist, but not the way we believe he exist. His group in the universe does not want us to be part of the truth. To them we are nothing more then a low life ant, who don't deserve the fulfillment of the promise that the bible talk about.
OK - your view of the Bible is a little different from what I have been hearing up until now. Your explanation is confusing - are these your original ideas or are you sharing the philosophies of your church? Denominations of Christianity have been discussed here - are these ideas supported by any denominations of Christianity?

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#227
Jul 18, 2013
 
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<quoted text> I am a believer. But you are right, hell that we are taught is not in the bible. In fact the word hell is from the greek language meaning grave. That we are all going to In reality, it is not until the final judgement take place, which has not even come close to happening. This mean when a person dieds, what happens. There is a lot of hints of reincarnation. One of the biggest prophecy is the return of Elijah. Base on what Christians believe that Jesus was the anointed one, Elijah was to return. So who was Elijah. Today this belief is still carry out by the jews at Passover. On the first night, a plate is set and nobody sit there. Why? waiting for the return of Elijah, so that the anointed can come. Read the last chapter of the OT, last paragraph. When done, ask yourself, if jesus is the anointed one, who was Elijah. Then read Matthews, and the sermon on the mount. Jesus gives you your answer. PS, reincarnation was a common belief back then, but the Catholic CHurch did away with this and created Purgatory. Truth be told, it the same thing. Suffer for what you did before you are handed the redemption. Reincarnation, pay for what you did in the previous life. Live by the sword, die by the sword, revenge is my say the lord. And we have a old saying, what goes around, comes around.
I have never met a Christian who does not believe in Hell before.

"What goes around, comes around" is Karma - something I was introduced to by a representative of Krishna and that is a denomination of Hindu beliefs, if I am correct. I bought a shirt from him that said "Hare Krishna" because he told me it meant: Praise God - it did, alright, for anyone who considered Krishna to be God. lol I was young.

I thought that reincarnation was another Indian or Asian idea - I have never met any Christian who believed that either.

What is your belief when it comes to Heaven?

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#228
Jul 18, 2013
 
NorCal Native wrote:
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Interesting......because here are some general contradictions:
God is satisfied with his works. Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6
Robbery commanded>Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36
Robbery forbidden>Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
Killing commanded>Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden>Ex 20:13
Slavery and oppression ordained>Gen 9:25/Lev 25:45,46/Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden>Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradic...
Just to name a few!!!
I mentioned some contradictions as well and was accused a being a typical Atheist. The consensus was that out of context, verses may SEEM contradictory - however when you take into consideration the author and who the text is addressed to, they you may realize that what you think is contradictory, is not. The only way I knew to argue that point was to put some serious studying into verses and history - honestly, it was just more work than I wanted to do.

Leviticus is a rotten little book that Atheists like to quote and Christians like to disassociate themselves from. All those terrible rules like: women aren't allowed to talk and you can sell your children into slavery (among others) do not really apply to us and can be disregarded.

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#229
Jul 18, 2013
 
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Again, we don't understand because of our ignorance. We are thinking from a human stupid point of view. Has the bibles calls a natural born sinner. Another words our stupidity of ourselves. Go back and try to understand the Nephims in Gen 6-6.
You know, I HAVE tried to study some verses that were suggested to me - but in your case, I'm just going to trust what you are telling me - I am having a hard time understanding your point of view.

I would have to disagree about being too ignorant to truly understand the Bible - I do not claim to understand it because I have not studied it well enough to understand it. The Christians who have previously posted on this thread have studied it thoroughly - even though opinions of it differ - they each feel confident that they understand it clearly.

My opinion is that the Bible was written by humans for humans and so, it was written FOR people to be able to understand it. Are you saying that the true messages of Christianity cannot necessarily be found in the Bible?

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#230
Jul 18, 2013
 
NorCal Native wrote:
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Sorry, but you may be ignorant, but that doesn't mean all are and I'm certainly not regarding these contradictions.......all one has to do is use a little common sense to see that these contradictions are clearly made because of man's interpretations with all of the translations......God's words have NO contradictions to them....however the bible does!!!
So, you are saying that the Bible is sometimes incorrectly interpreting God's true message? The Bible was inspired by God's words but has been manipulated throughout time to say something that was not originally said?

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#231
Jul 18, 2013
 
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Actually: are you not interpreting that "effeminate" means homosexual people even though the dictionary disagrees?

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#232
Jul 18, 2013
 
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(ESV) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
(GW) Don't you know that wicked people won't inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,
(LEB) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners,
(Murdock) Or do ye not know, that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not mistake; neither whoremongers, nor idol-worshippers, nor adulterers, nor debauchers, nor liers with males,
(RV) Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,
(WNT) Do you not know that unrighteous men will not inherit God's Kingdom? Cherish no delusion here. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor any who are guilty of unnatural crime,
You are re-enforcing my point by showing the same verse to SOMETIMES mention homosexual people and SOMETIMES vaguely refer to people who could be homosexual or maybe not..

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#233
Jul 18, 2013
 
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Your some what close. Ok, here it goes, E=MC2 is the belief that everything in the universe is relative also. The average person uses about 5-7% of there brain. Think of the great wonders we have done, also think of the horror we done to each other. If mankind learns to use 100% of his brain, the need of a human body would become "relative" Meaning our thought become pure energy, and a body is not needed. Most people don't see this nor understand this. Einstein even talk about it after the discovery of E=MC2. Before this Einstein believe in nothing, after this, his belief in a universal being was everything. This is what the bible talks about, but we don't see it. Think about Jesus after he died. His thought patterns and physical patterns was able to go from one demension to another. One minute eating solid food, next what we call spiritual. We are stuck in a one thought pattern. Because of this, the bible calls it sin. We have been "cut off" from the universe. Trust me, there is more, but this is the only way I can explain it.
I LOVE this theory! I have never heard it explained this way before. I cannot figure out what it has to do with the Bible, but it IS an idea to ponder.

I rejected Christianity because my ideas ventured so far from the teachings of Christianity. I do not believe that people have souls, but I do believe that people are fueled by a collective energy - my energy is the same as yours. I'd love to hear more about this.

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#234
Jul 18, 2013
 
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> This has been the problem for mankind. Everything he does, is from a human point of view to help better himself. We don't thing in "universal terms". This is why people see the bible has a book that don't make sense.
OK - let me take your ideas one step further. You are saying: God is not only the God of Earth, but the God of the Universe, yes? If there is life on other planets, they too owe their existence to the same God that Earthlings worship. Have you watched "Ancient Aliens" on the History Channel that claims that "angels" are actually references to aliens?

My question is: if there are other Universes, did God create those also?
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#235
Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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You know, I HAVE tried to study some verses that were suggested to me - but in your case, I'm just going to trust what you are telling me - I am having a hard time understanding your point of view.
I would have to disagree about being too ignorant to truly understand the Bible - I do not claim to understand it because I have not studied it well enough to understand it. The Christians who have previously posted on this thread have studied it thoroughly - even though opinions of it differ - they each feel confident that they understand it clearly.
My opinion is that the Bible was written by humans for humans and so, it was written FOR people to be able to understand it. Are you saying that the true messages of Christianity cannot necessarily be found in the Bible?
There is no such thing has the true message of Christianity. Jesus confirm the teaching of the law of Moses and the prophets. The true message is the bible, which we don't understand it. If we knew, the hate, greed and the killing would stop on what we do to each other. But the promise that the bible does say is "the truth will set you free" We just don't know what truth is yet.
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#236
Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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I have never met a Christian who does not believe in Hell before.
"What goes around, comes around" is Karma - something I was introduced to by a representative of Krishna and that is a denomination of Hindu beliefs, if I am correct. I bought a shirt from him that said "Hare Krishna" because he told me it meant: Praise God - it did, alright, for anyone who considered Krishna to be God. lol I was young.
I thought that reincarnation was another Indian or Asian idea - I have never met any Christian who believed that either.
What is your belief when it comes to Heaven?
I am not preaching reincarnation or pushing it. All I am saying is read the last chapter of the OT. To this day the jews at Passover on the 1st night set a plate at the table and no one sit there. The promise is that right before the anointed one appears Elijah will return and point him out. We believe that jesus is the anointed one, but were is Elijah. Also after you read the last chapter in the OT, then go to Matthews and the Sermon on the Mount. After you read it, you decide what to make of it.

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#237
Jul 18, 2013
 
Mike Peterson wrote:
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Very similar to 2 Protestantism discussing what the Bible says.
Complete waste of time.
It must NOT be a waste of time since you like to spend your time arguing against it.

You like to brag about how much work the Catholic Church does for society. I agree! The Catholics are responsible for helping many, many people throughout many, many years. You make it seem as if Protestants are not doing God's work at all - that is simply not true. Even if you disagree with the teachings, can you not see how Protestant Christianity is for people who could not or would not honor the rigid rules that Catholicism requires? Catholicism is for YOU, but is not suited for everyone and that's why everybody is not Catholic.
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#238
Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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OK - let me take your ideas one step further. You are saying: God is not only the God of Earth, but the God of the Universe, yes? If there is life on other planets, they too owe their existence to the same God that Earthlings worship. Have you watched "Ancient Aliens" on the History Channel that claims that "angels" are actually references to aliens?
My question is: if there are other Universes, did God create those also?
E=MC2 created everything. From Science we are taught that energy always existed. We are taught that Matter and anti-matter always exist, why can't you understand that "there are more things in heaven and earth then dreams are made of." Why were there 10 plaques against the Egyptians thru Moses. Because that is how many major gods that they worship. 1st commandment to Moses, I AM THE LORD< DON"T HAVE ANY GODS BEFORE ME. Read the book of the dead. They talk about how great each of the 10 gods are, but all 10 finish with saying that there is one who is greater. No where in the bible that says these gods don't exist. It does say that they are False gods. Your question is getting closer. Maybe I'll help you. Jesus say said that in those days to come, do not be dismay by the many wonderous signs in the heaven, for they are not who you think they are. When jesus left, was it not said he would return in the same fashion and place.

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#239
Jul 18, 2013
 
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> You are 100% correct. Nothing happen to anybody no matter what kind of life one leads. We have not yet understand the truth. This is the promise. After the "new earth" is form, we will all know what "truth" is. Once you understand, this is where the separation take place. Another word on the "new earth" maybe no money exist, everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, all have nice houses etc etc etc. But some folk may not be happy when this takes place. They want to go place to the old system of hate, corruption, greed, killing one another for money. These folks are the one that will this time pay. Has the bible say, the unrightious will not inherit the earth. When we know the answer to all the questions of the universe, and still want the old system, the Elohim will stop it this time and say, this time you knew the truth and you still want the pain of what was. The Elohim will then say, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
killedjoe, I would disregard you as nutty if I didn't LOVE your ideas so much! Your ideas are similar to mine in some very strange ways, since I consider my ideas to be Atheist and you consider yours to be Christian.

I have expressed before that whatever happens when you die will happen when I die because we are the same and our thoughts do not matter. That's not really what you are saying, but you ARE saying that our actions on Earth do not matter. Or are you saying that? You are hard to understand - have I mentioned that?

Who in the world is Elohim?

Are you sure you're a Christian? I'm trying to be open-minded, but I'm starting to think that you are beyond the realm of Christianity..
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Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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I LOVE this theory! I have never heard it explained this way before. I cannot figure out what it has to do with the Bible, but it IS an idea to ponder.
I rejected Christianity because my ideas ventured so far from the teachings of Christianity. I do not believe that people have souls, but I do believe that people are fueled by a collective energy - my energy is the same as yours. I'd love to hear more about this.
Yes, we do have a soul. But it is not what most people think it is. In the beginning when Man was created, has the "body" was form from the dust of the ground, has the book says, he became a "breathing soul". The soul is who we are. Your right, energy of ourselves is all the same, that why the 2 greatest commandments are Love the Lord, and love each other. We are all one.

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#241
Jul 18, 2013
 
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It is interesting to note there will be very very few heterosexuals in the Kingdom of God given their innate propensity toward fornication and adultery.
Aw, MarkEden, not again. You just like saying mean things about gay people. Sometimes you can be so cruel.

I know you like to insult me as well - but my life has allowed me the unique talent to disregard your insults and forgive you each time you do it. You cannot hurt my feelings, MarkEden, too many other people like you have hurt them before and I have learned to accept that you are simply challenged by empathy. I accept YOU for exactly who you are.

You are slandering homosexual people by insinuating that they care only about homosexual activities. I would expect a reduction of homosexual "fornication" in proportion to the number of gay people who are allowed to legally marry - then their activities will simply be considered "relations" such as those of legally married men and women. As far as adultery goes - isn't that a sin of married people? Geez - Gay people have not been married that long - perhaps you need to give the heterosexual married people a talking-to.
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Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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killedjoe, I would disregard you as nutty if I didn't LOVE your ideas so much! Your ideas are similar to mine in some very strange ways, since I consider my ideas to be Atheist and you consider yours to be Christian.
I have expressed before that whatever happens when you die will happen when I die because we are the same and our thoughts do not matter. That's not really what you are saying, but you ARE saying that our actions on Earth do not matter. Or are you saying that? You are hard to understand - have I mentioned that?
Who in the world is Elohim?
Are you sure you're a Christian? I'm trying to be open-minded, but I'm starting to think that you are beyond the realm of Christianity..
Our action on earth in today system does matter. What we do has effect on everybody around us. On the job, at home, relaxing. How we react to thing has a chain reaction to people around us. I get piss off on the job with the people I work with, That will effect the people around me. Same at home etc etc. The Elohim is the name of god. This is the original wording from Moses. In the first 5 book of the bible, God is hardly mention. Ex: And the lord came to Abraham. The lord spoke to Jacob etc etc. Elohim is the one speaking when he said "let US make man in OUR image. Please notice I cap the us and our. Does it sound like he was talking to a group or himself.

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#243
Jul 18, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
Live in a State the approves of it. The whole world is not going to change because a few cry 'wolf' or demand what has been culturally unacceptable for thousands of years to suddenly be proclaimed as acceptable behavior.
Just seems like a ridiculous goal that is not going to be true, unless the Gay agenda folks can get Islam to foster gay behavior. Last I heard they were still killing people for being 'gay.'....
Of course it will - the ban of gay marriage will be deemed unconstitutional one court case after another until ALL states allow gender-less marriage licenses. Its OK, you don't have to believe me.

I don't think Muslims are going to be convinced to support gay rights or homosexual lifestyles any more easily than Christians will be, but I'm just predicting with the base belief that Muslims will not be taking over the world. If Muslims do take over our government, the gays will no longer be concerned about retirement benefits or inheritance taxes. But then, neither will Christians.

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Jul 18, 2013
 
Barnsweb wrote:
Live in a State the approves of it. The whole world is not going to change because a few cry 'wolf' or demand what has been culturally unacceptable for thousands of years to suddenly be proclaimed as acceptable behavior.
Just seems like a ridiculous goal that is not going to be true, unless the Gay agenda folks can get Islam to foster gay behavior. Last I heard they were still killing people for being 'gay.'....
Sorry, but there are Gays and Lesbians who live in EVERY State and therefore they should have a right to marry in the state they reside in:-)
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Jul 18, 2013
 
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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So, you are saying that the Bible is sometimes incorrectly interpreting God's true message? The Bible was inspired by God's words but has been manipulated throughout time to say something that was not originally said?
Here a point of mistranslation, from the greek language. When Jesus was born we are taught that the angels appeared to the shepards in the field and announce "Peace on earth, good will toward men for we have great tidings". In the language that the Apostles spoke it saying is, "Peace on earth to men of good will, for we have great tidings." If the bible says we are not to get involved with star readings and the occult, then why is they are star in the heavens when jesus was born.

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