Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#206 Jul 17, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
I know I am wasting my time on these atheism threads and this will be my last message.
http://www.nccs.net/articles/ril16.html
Aw, I hate to hear that, Bobby - I feel like we have had some in-depth and meaningful conversations here.

Do you find it intimidating that an actual homosexual person has entered the conversation? I can't help but notice that our regular posters who claim not to "hate" homosexuals have dropped out of the discussion. Hmm.

Assuredly, your posts on my "atheist" threads have not been a waste of time for me - I have thoroughly enjoyed hearing your point of view - I hope that you have taken my point of view into consideration.

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#207 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong. Creator is mention in the Declaration. We are endown by our creator with certain enalienable right, among these are life, liberty, and the pursue of happiness. These are the same laws that what the book calls the Laws of Moses. If you read the book you should of know this. Therefore the basic laws of the constitution is base on the reason why we Declared to the world our reason to rebel against the crown. HA HA HA. I am going out on a limb. You watch CNBC and MSNBC cable network news. They are very good at twisting words around. Most signer of the Declaration and the Constitution were Freemaion. Again, research what they are suppose to believe.
That's it? Christians think our nation was formed from Christianity because the Declaration of Independence says "the Creator"? Wow.

I cannot help it if most people in this nation claim Christianity as their religion - that is their choice - our laws accommodate them by allowing them to embrace whatever religion they choose. Certainly, most of our founding fathers shared a belief in GOD and that would be a logical explanation to why "the Creator" was mentioned - but they were careful not to include Christianity specifically, since it was their true intentions to allow everyone to follow the religion of their choice. Perhaps it was beyond their realm of understanding that some people do not believe in "the Creator". I do not know, but I am certainly not required by the government to believe in the Creator - what kind of a "Christian" nation wouldn't require that?

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#208 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> I am not asking you what this says, but I am asking you if you can explain it. E=MC2
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'll try:

E=MC2 is Einstein's theory of relativity, of course, and that means.. uh... time is relative? If a person travels faster than light, that person has actually traveled through time?

The internet says: Einsteinís theory is hard to follow because it is extremely hard to illustrate in a kinesthetic way. Essentially, his idea is that time is less of a steady linear constant than most people think. He tells us to think of time more like light: it appears the same from different angles but travels in bendable waves that will hit the people standing closest to it before the people standing further away. According to him, if time is like light then if a human being could travel at the speed of light they would live infinitely longer than the stationary observer.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/physics/...

For example: Imagine you are wearing a watch that says 12:00 noon and also, your friend is wearing a watch that says the same. You stand in place while your friend takes a 5 minute trip faster than the speed of light. According to this theory, when your friend returns, your watch will say: 12:05 and his watch will say: 12:05 and some additional seconds because he will have traveled into the future ever so slightly.

I could be wrong, I have not attended school for many years.

What is your point?

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#209 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
There are....and again, I have no issue with folks interpreting the bible or scripture as they see fit, HOWEVER.....they are not the authority on scripture in my opinion and everyone is entitled to believe what they feel is best for them.......frankly, I don't tell others how to believe and I get tired of them telling me that how I believe is wrong and just because of who I am that I'm going to some eternal hell spot......my response back to them is that I do not fear God, nor am I concern for whatever final judgment God hands down to me......He alone knows everything about me.....and He alone will judge me based on what He knows....not what others feel or think!!!
One should take time to read the Gospels according to Thomas, Peter, Judas and Mary Magdalene, also look at the Book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher......all of these give insight in to various aspects of the lives who supposedly lived in biblical times!!!
I have also been bothered by the books NOT included in the Bible and the Books literally thrown out of the Bible - it is as if Christians have chosen what parts of history that they WANT to abide by. I know that the actual Christians that I have been speaking with honor the Bible that they have been taught to honor - the "version" is another individual choice. I can't imagine why books written by Jesus's actual disciples have been omitted - it would lead me to believe that they say things that Christians don't want to hear.

I do not believe in Hell and so I am not concerned that you or anyone else will spend your afterlife there. If you take the Bible literally, I would imagine that MOST people would go there because following all of the Bible's rules is nearly impossible - I don't think I know anyone who would actually qualify to go to Heaven. However, I know very few Christians who DON'T think they are going to Heaven.

I would guess that your faith is based on a personal relationship with God - all Christians encourage people to have a personal relationship with God, so I cannot understand how yours can be dismissed and theirs can be honored.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#210 Jul 17, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
I have also been bothered by the books NOT included in the Bible and the Books literally thrown out of the Bible - it is as if Christians have chosen what parts of history that they WANT to abide by. I know that the actual Christians that I have been speaking with honor the Bible that they have been taught to honor - the "version" is another individual choice. I can't imagine why books written by Jesus's actual disciples have been omitted - it would lead me to believe that they say things that Christians don't want to hear.
I do not believe in Hell and so I am not concerned that you or anyone else will spend your afterlife there. If you take the Bible literally, I would imagine that MOST people would go there because following all of the Bible's rules is nearly impossible - I don't think I know anyone who would actually qualify to go to Heaven. However, I know very few Christians who DON'T think they are going to Heaven.
I would guess that your faith is based on a personal relationship with God - all Christians encourage people to have a personal relationship with God, so I cannot understand how yours can be dismissed and theirs can be honored.
It's a bit curious why these 14 books where a part of the bible for most of it's existence until the last 100 years:
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Apocrypha...

I have read parts of everything I mentioned and it is curious in the Gospel according to Thomas that when the men went to the tomb of Jesus, not only did they carry Jesus out, but a walking talking cross followed them.

And the scholars have studied these 4 Gospels and have stated that if they be forgeries, then so are the books of Mark, John, Matthew and Luke!!!
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#211 Jul 17, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
I am seeing your point of view, but you are mistaken about my personal brain-washing. In my case, I was taught that the Bible and Christianity were the ultimate TRUTH only to realize later in life that religion is based on BELIEF and one religion is as "true" as the next. That's why religious beliefs are a choice.
Your story from Job supports my theory that the Bible contradicts itself - later, we are assured that Jesus is "God's only son" - how can both be true?
I agree that science and religion are not always in conflict, but there is a great difference between the two. Christianity claims to have stated the "truth" and is firm to hold tightly to these teachings regardless of the situation. Science is constantly disregarded and replaced with new Science - it is modern and reflects all that we know NOW. Many "scientific facts" have been debunked and replaced with more accurate "facts", which can be debunked again and again - science is an on-going process. Religion claims to already know everything - I find that to be an outrageous claim.
You know that religion has existed much longer than Christianity and that religion is a way to explain things that people do not or cannot understand. We refer to "old religions" as myth - my opinion is that modern religion is also myth - an outdated myth that no longer properly serves the society and so I suggest that Christianity is in decline. I suspect that this has happened naturally, but many blame the Devil.
Again, It does not say that Jesus is the only son, it says only Begotten son, another words came human. The bible does not contradicts itself, we contradicts the bible because of our ignorance of who we are. Has you say, science is an on going process. Like the bible you claim to say full of "myths" and contradicts, this is the same process also. The more we learn, the more we understand who we are. Today, base on science, there is no way that we are alone in the universe, but for some reason, this contradict the bible. It does not. it is confirming. The question we should be asking is, with the universe full of life, why are we alone. This is the theme of the bible. To redeem us back to the family of the universe. But you mention the devil. Yes he does exist, but not the way we believe he exist. His group in the universe does not want us to be part of the truth. To them we are nothing more then a low life ant, who don't deserve the fulfillment of the promise that the bible talk about.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#212 Jul 17, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
I have also been bothered by the books NOT included in the Bible and the Books literally thrown out of the Bible - it is as if Christians have chosen what parts of history that they WANT to abide by. I know that the actual Christians that I have been speaking with honor the Bible that they have been taught to honor - the "version" is another individual choice. I can't imagine why books written by Jesus's actual disciples have been omitted - it would lead me to believe that they say things that Christians don't want to hear.
I do not believe in Hell and so I am not concerned that you or anyone else will spend your afterlife there. If you take the Bible literally, I would imagine that MOST people would go there because following all of the Bible's rules is nearly impossible - I don't think I know anyone who would actually qualify to go to Heaven. However, I know very few Christians who DON'T think they are going to Heaven.
I would guess that your faith is based on a personal relationship with God - all Christians encourage people to have a personal relationship with God, so I cannot understand how yours can be dismissed and theirs can be honored.
I am a believer. But you are right, hell that we are taught is not in the bible. In fact the word hell is from the greek language meaning grave. That we are all going to In reality, it is not until the final judgement take place, which has not even come close to happening. This mean when a person dieds, what happens. There is a lot of hints of reincarnation. One of the biggest prophecy is the return of Elijah. Base on what Christians believe that Jesus was the anointed one, Elijah was to return. So who was Elijah. Today this belief is still carry out by the jews at Passover. On the first night, a plate is set and nobody sit there. Why? waiting for the return of Elijah, so that the anointed can come. Read the last chapter of the OT, last paragraph. When done, ask yourself, if jesus is the anointed one, who was Elijah. Then read Matthews, and the sermon on the mount. Jesus gives you your answer. PS, reincarnation was a common belief back then, but the Catholic CHurch did away with this and created Purgatory. Truth be told, it the same thing. Suffer for what you did before you are handed the redemption. Reincarnation, pay for what you did in the previous life. Live by the sword, die by the sword, revenge is my say the lord. And we have a old saying, what goes around, comes around.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#213 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
The bible does not contradicts itself, we contradicts the bible because of our ignorance of who we are.
Interesting......because here are some general contradictions:
God is satisfied with his works. Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6

Robbery commanded>Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36
Robbery forbidden>Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15

Killing commanded>Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden>Ex 20:13

Slavery and oppression ordained>Gen 9:25/Lev 25:45,46/Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden>Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradic...

Just to name a few!!!
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#214 Jul 17, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting......because here are some general contradictions:
God is satisfied with his works. Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6
Robbery commanded>Ex 3:21,22/ Ex 12:35,36
Robbery forbidden>Lev 19:13/ Ex 20:15
Killing commanded>Ex 32:27
Killing forbidden>Ex 20:13
Slavery and oppression ordained>Gen 9:25/Lev 25:45,46/Joel 3:8
Slavery and oppression forbidden>Is 58:6/ Ex 22:21/ Ex 21:16/ Matt 23:10
http://www.evilbible.com/Biblical%20Contradic...
Just to name a few!!!
Again, we don't understand because of our ignorance. We are thinking from a human stupid point of view. Has the bibles calls a natural born sinner. Another words our stupidity of ourselves. Go back and try to understand the Nephims in Gen 6-6.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#215 Jul 17, 2013
killedjoe wrote:
<quoted text> Again, we don't understand because of our ignorance. We are thinking from a human stupid point of view. Has the bibles calls a natural born sinner. Another words our stupidity of ourselves. Go back and try to understand the Nephims in Gen 6-6.
Sorry, but you may be ignorant, but that doesn't mean all are and I'm certainly not regarding these contradictions.......all one has to do is use a little common sense to see that these contradictions are clearly made because of man's interpretations with all of the translations......God's words have NO contradictions to them....however the bible does!!!
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#216 Jul 18, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
Aw, I hate to hear that, Bobby - I feel like we have had some in-depth and meaningful conversations here.
Do you find it intimidating that an actual homosexual person has entered the conversation? I can't help but notice that our regular posters who claim not to "hate" homosexuals have dropped out of the discussion. Hmm.
Assuredly, your posts on my "atheist" threads have not been a waste of time for me - I have thoroughly enjoyed hearing your point of view - I hope that you have taken my point of view into consideration.
Nothing of interest going on with this thread. I think any Christian who tries to convert an atheist on this thread is just playing games, just as the atheist who tries to discourage or disprove the faith a Christian has is just playing games. The fact is that we are alive, who read these threads, and there are none who don't believe who care about what any believer believes, unless they can use their beliefs against them.

So who cares what you think who don't believe there is a God and that all will be held accountable one day?

The resurrection is the problem, if true. All will be resurrected - some to the resurrection of the just - others to the resurrection of condemnation - both will have an eternity facing them then. So Christians believe this and don't desire any perish and try to share their concern for unbelievers - and their care is used against them. So current events shows a major effort trying to convict those who care by those who don't?

So you might better understand why I don't post on this thread - it's the blind condemning the deaf...or something like that...

Either it's true that God winked at ignorance in the past, but now commands that all repent - or He didn't. Disprove the resurrection and you disprove all Christianity. Why waste our time with any other argumentation aside from disproving the resurrection of Jesus Christ? If you do care so much, or are so smart as to judge others beliefs - just prove the resurrection didn't happen.....
Anonymous Proxy

Anonymous Proxy

#217 Jul 18, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
malakos(nor effeminate)
Thayer Definition:(
1) soft, soft to the touch
2) metaphorically in a bad sense
2a) effeminate
2a1) of a catamite
2a2) of a boy kept for homosexual relations with a man
2a3) of a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness
2a4) of a male prostitute
arsenokoit&#275;s( nor abusers of themselves with mankind)
Thayer Definition:
1) one who lies with a male as with a female, sodomite, homosexual
There is nothing to explain the bible is plain.
There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Anonymous Proxy

Anonymous Proxy

#218 Jul 18, 2013
(ESV) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

(GW) Don't you know that wicked people won't inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals,

(LEB) Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners,

(Murdock) Or do ye not know, that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not mistake; neither whoremongers, nor idol-worshippers, nor adulterers, nor debauchers, nor liers with males,

(RV) Or know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with men,

(WNT) Do you not know that unrighteous men will not inherit God's Kingdom? Cherish no delusion here. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor any who are guilty of unnatural crime,
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#219 Jul 18, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but I'll try:
E=MC2 is Einstein's theory of relativity, of course, and that means.. uh... time is relative? If a person travels faster than light, that person has actually traveled through time?
The internet says: Einsteinís theory is hard to follow because it is extremely hard to illustrate in a kinesthetic way. Essentially, his idea is that time is less of a steady linear constant than most people think. He tells us to think of time more like light: it appears the same from different angles but travels in bendable waves that will hit the people standing closest to it before the people standing further away. According to him, if time is like light then if a human being could travel at the speed of light they would live infinitely longer than the stationary observer.
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/physics/...
For example: Imagine you are wearing a watch that says 12:00 noon and also, your friend is wearing a watch that says the same. You stand in place while your friend takes a 5 minute trip faster than the speed of light. According to this theory, when your friend returns, your watch will say: 12:05 and his watch will say: 12:05 and some additional seconds because he will have traveled into the future ever so slightly.
I could be wrong, I have not attended school for many years.
What is your point?
Your some what close. Ok, here it goes, E=MC2 is the belief that everything in the universe is relative also. The average person uses about 5-7% of there brain. Think of the great wonders we have done, also think of the horror we done to each other. If mankind learns to use 100% of his brain, the need of a human body would become "relative" Meaning our thought become pure energy, and a body is not needed. Most people don't see this nor understand this. Einstein even talk about it after the discovery of E=MC2. Before this Einstein believe in nothing, after this, his belief in a universal being was everything. This is what the bible talks about, but we don't see it. Think about Jesus after he died. His thought patterns and physical patterns was able to go from one demension to another. One minute eating solid food, next what we call spiritual. We are stuck in a one thought pattern. Because of this, the bible calls it sin. We have been "cut off" from the universe. Trust me, there is more, but this is the only way I can explain it.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#220 Jul 18, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but you may be ignorant, but that doesn't mean all are and I'm certainly not regarding these contradictions.......all one has to do is use a little common sense to see that these contradictions are clearly made because of man's interpretations with all of the translations......God's words have NO contradictions to them....however the bible does!!!
This has been the problem for mankind. Everything he does, is from a human point of view to help better himself. We don't thing in "universal terms". This is why people see the bible has a book that don't make sense.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#221 Jul 18, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing of interest going on with this thread. I think any Christian who tries to convert an atheist on this thread is just playing games, just as the atheist who tries to discourage or disprove the faith a Christian has is just playing games. The fact is that we are alive, who read these threads, and there are none who don't believe who care about what any believer believes, unless they can use their beliefs against them.
So who cares what you think who don't believe there is a God and that all will be held accountable one day?
The resurrection is the problem, if true. All will be resurrected - some to the resurrection of the just - others to the resurrection of condemnation - both will have an eternity facing them then. So Christians believe this and don't desire any perish and try to share their concern for unbelievers - and their care is used against them. So current events shows a major effort trying to convict those who care by those who don't?
So you might better understand why I don't post on this thread - it's the blind condemning the deaf...or something like that...
Either it's true that God winked at ignorance in the past, but now commands that all repent - or He didn't. Disprove the resurrection and you disprove all Christianity. Why waste our time with any other argumentation aside from disproving the resurrection of Jesus Christ? If you do care so much, or are so smart as to judge others beliefs - just prove the resurrection didn't happen.....
Very similar to 2 Protestantism discussing what the Bible says.

Complete waste of time.
killedjoe

Lindenhurst, NY

#222 Jul 18, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing of interest going on with this thread. I think any Christian who tries to convert an atheist on this thread is just playing games, just as the atheist who tries to discourage or disprove the faith a Christian has is just playing games. The fact is that we are alive, who read these threads, and there are none who don't believe who care about what any believer believes, unless they can use their beliefs against them.
So who cares what you think who don't believe there is a God and that all will be held accountable one day?
The resurrection is the problem, if true. All will be resurrected - some to the resurrection of the just - others to the resurrection of condemnation - both will have an eternity facing them then. So Christians believe this and don't desire any perish and try to share their concern for unbelievers - and their care is used against them. So current events shows a major effort trying to convict those who care by those who don't?
So you might better understand why I don't post on this thread - it's the blind condemning the deaf...or something like that...
Either it's true that God winked at ignorance in the past, but now commands that all repent - or He didn't. Disprove the resurrection and you disprove all Christianity. Why waste our time with any other argumentation aside from disproving the resurrection of Jesus Christ? If you do care so much, or are so smart as to judge others beliefs - just prove the resurrection didn't happen.....
You are 100% correct. Nothing happen to anybody no matter what kind of life one leads. We have not yet understand the truth. This is the promise. After the "new earth" is form, we will all know what "truth" is. Once you understand, this is where the separation take place. Another word on the "new earth" maybe no money exist, everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, all have nice houses etc etc etc. But some folk may not be happy when this takes place. They want to go place to the old system of hate, corruption, greed, killing one another for money. These folks are the one that will this time pay. Has the bible say, the unrightious will not inherit the earth. When we know the answer to all the questions of the universe, and still want the old system, the Elohim will stop it this time and say, this time you knew the truth and you still want the pain of what was. The Elohim will then say, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."

Since: Jun 11

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#223 Jul 18, 2013
Anonymous Proxy wrote:
<quoted text>There is no interpretation for any real Christian to do , it is self-explanatory.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
It is interesting to note there will be very very few heterosexuals in the Kingdom of God given their innate propensity toward fornication and adultery.

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#224 Jul 18, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
Nothing of interest going on with this thread. I think any Christian who tries to convert an atheist on this thread is just playing games, just as the atheist who tries to discourage or disprove the faith a Christian has is just playing games. The fact is that we are alive, who read these threads, and there are none who don't believe who care about what any believer believes, unless they can use their beliefs against them.
I find this thread to be interesting and I have enjoyed comparing my personal beliefs to yours. Some good points have been made that I had never considered before AND I have learned quite a lot about "Christians" having very different beliefs. I did not expect anyone here to convert me to Christianity, but I have enjoyed discussing it. I have been inspired to actually read what is inside the Bible rather than generalizing its message.
Barnsweb wrote:
So who cares what you think who don't believe there is a God and that all will be held accountable one day?
The resurrection is the problem, if true. All will be resurrected - some to the resurrection of the just - others to the resurrection of condemnation - both will have an eternity facing them then. So Christians believe this and don't desire any perish and try to share their concern for unbelievers - and their care is used against them. So current events shows a major effort trying to convict those who care by those who don't?
So you might better understand why I don't post on this thread - it's the blind condemning the deaf...or something like that...
No, you are right, I do not understand. How have your beliefs been used against you? Why do you find it to be a waste of time to explain your beliefs to others?
I guess I'm supposed to imagine that it is coincidence that the previous posters have "had enough" just as soon as I invited a gay person to join the conversation. It is the same as saying you don't "hate" gays but you sure don't want anything to do with them. That is the REASON why I wanted you Christians to talk about homosexuality - you judge their beliefs without inspecting them at all - the Bible has done all the judging for you. You are satisfied for it to be this way as if homosexuality is not a problem at all as long as you never have to look at it. Now you will put your blinders back on and ignore me like you intend to ignore all others you do not like.
Barnsweb wrote:
Either it's true that God winked at ignorance in the past, but now commands that all repent - or He didn't. Disprove the resurrection and you disprove all Christianity. Why waste our time with any other argumentation aside from disproving the resurrection of Jesus Christ? If you do care so much, or are so smart as to judge others beliefs - just prove the resurrection didn't happen.....
It is not my goal to disprove Christianity - I cannot do it and I do not want to do it. You beliefs are just fine to me - our gay guest's beliefs are just fine too - they are all different from my own, but our religious beliefs are not the topic of THIS thread - it is homosexuality.

My point is: homosexual lifestyles are HERE and they do EXIST. The "gay agenda" is to have our government recognize and honor this FACT. You are allowing your religious beliefs to take a stance against homosexual lifestyles - claiming that if allowed and accepted by society, that your religious beliefs are threatened. And SO you refuse to acknowledge or accept that this is the reality of gay people - you would rather talk about something else. Homosexuality is not worth your time and thoughts - it just needs to go away.

I guess you can go on with your life thinking like that - many people will - but I wish it didn't have to be this way. Isn't there a way for same-sex marriage to be allowed in YOUR state without you imagining that it is bringing on the end of times? Will you be doing your part to prevent equal rights? THAT is what concerns me.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#225 Jul 18, 2013
Live in a State the approves of it. The whole world is not going to change because a few cry 'wolf' or demand what has been culturally unacceptable for thousands of years to suddenly be proclaimed as acceptable behavior.

Just seems like a ridiculous goal that is not going to be true, unless the Gay agenda folks can get Islam to foster gay behavior. Last I heard they were still killing people for being 'gay.'....

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