Peter was not a Pope
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#45 Jul 12, 2014
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>Mike do you believe in total submission to the catholic church? Yes or no?
Yes to the Church.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#46 Jul 12, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes to the Church.
That is what I thought. Even when they are wrong, they are still right, because you believe they are infallible. No need to question it, just blindly follow...
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#47 Jul 12, 2014
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>That is what I thought. Even when they are wrong, they are still right, because you believe they are infallible. No need to question it, just blindly follow...
We can question all we want and leave when we want just like those in John 6:66.

But where will we go? You have the words of everlasting life. And Jesus told his Church that whoever hears the Church heArs him the the Father who sent him. Whoever rejects the Church rejects Jesus and God.

If it is in the CCC it is from all of God's words both written and handed down through tradition

Everything you need to know to get yourself and the people you love any others is in there
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#48 Jul 12, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
We can question all we want and leave when we want just like those in John 6:66.
But where will we go? You have the words of everlasting life. And Jesus told his Church that whoever hears the Church heArs him the the Father who sent him. Whoever rejects the Church rejects Jesus and God.
If it is in the CCC it is from all of God's words both written and handed down through tradition
Everything you need to know to get yourself and the people you love any others is in there
Yep, you can't leave for fear of going to hell, because you have no eternal security. That is best way to keep power over the masses in any cult.

The group members feel understood because they all use the same words and it generates a sense of camaraderie and elitism.
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#49 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, you can't leave for fear of going to hell, because you have no eternal security. That is best way to keep power over the masses in any cult.

The group members feel understood because they all use the same words and it generates a sense of camaraderie and elitism.
A protester only will accept Jesus on his own terms.

Jesus. I am letting you be my savior but I will decide what that book means. I am no sheep. America is the land of freedom

That is sad to confuse America with the Kingdom.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#50 Jul 13, 2014
"A protester only will accept Jesus on his own terms."

Exactly! And those terms are plainly written in scripture, not from a foreign book of tradition enforced from the Vatican.

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life."

Rom. 3:22, "even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction."

Rom. 3:24, "being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;"

Rom. 3:26, "for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."

Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one."

Rom. 4:3, "For what does the Scripture say? "And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness."

Rom. 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,"

Rom. 4:11, "And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,"

Rom. 4:16, "Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all."

Rom. 5:1, "therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#51 Jul 13, 2014
We both know that the scripture tells a different story than the one you preach!
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#52 Jul 13, 2014
You see, the law can't save us that is why it was replaced. It's purpose was to reveal out sin to us. Paul revealed this to the early Christians.

Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.

But the early church fought with those who did not want to accept the new terms.

God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God.

For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

Then along came the catholic church who liked the old law and begin to mix law with grace and change the story mixing it with law once again.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#53 Jul 13, 2014
The jewish temple was destroyed and the early church had no temple made with humans hands, but later, little by little the roman church began to revert to the old way of doing things, they even built a new temple in Rome called the vatican.

1 Cor 3:16
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God.

No temple exercises required with incense and men dressed up like kings with the people worshiping them. I am thinking of the popemobile where the masses are held back they just want to touch him-the pope and kiss his ring.

Jesus answered, "It is written:'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"

Now Mike will tell me how ignorant I am...
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#54 Jul 13, 2014
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#55 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
"A protester only will accept Jesus on his own terms."

Exactly! And those terms are plainly written in scripture, not from a foreign book of tradition enforced from the Vatican.

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life."

Rom. 3:22, "even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction."

Rom. 3:24, "being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus;"

Rom. 3:26, "for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."

Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one."

Rom. 4:3, "For what does the Scripture say? "And Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness."

Rom. 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness,"

Rom. 4:11, "And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,"

Rom. 4:16, "Therefore it is of faith that it might be according to grace, so that the promise might be sure to all the seed, not only to those who are of the law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all."

Rom. 5:1, "therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
I am glad that you admit you accept Jesus on your own terms and not his.

All protesters do that. Tens of thousands of I interpretations of the same words.

Unity thru diversity right
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#56 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
We both know that the scripture tells a different story than the one you preach!
I don't preach. You speak for God. Not me.
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#57 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
The jewish temple was destroyed and the early church had no temple made with humans hands, but later, little by little the roman church began to revert to the old way of doing things, they even built a new temple in Rome called the vatican.

1 Cor 3:16
God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can't take credit for this; it is a gift from God.

No temple exercises required with incense and men dressed up like kings with the people worshiping them. I am thinking of the popemobile where the masses are held back they just want to touch him-the pope and kiss his ring.

Jesus answered, "It is written:'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'"

Now Mike will tell me how ignorant I am...
You are ignorant as a Christian. You were born into that ignorance.

I believe everything in the Bible. You believe in the freedom to pick out what to believe.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#58 Jul 13, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are ignorant as a Christian. You were born into that ignorance.
I believe everything in the Bible. You believe in the freedom to pick out what to believe.
On Jesus terms not mine, not yours, not the pope's. And yes, I do not choose the pope as my authority figure

Jesus was sinless and it is because Jesus was sinless that we have hope of an eternity in heaven. If Jesus were not sinless, there would be no sacrifice for sin.

In the scheme of things the pope is just another sinner just like you and me.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#59 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
On Jesus terms not mine, not yours, not the pope's. And yes, I do not choose the pope as my authority figure
Jesus was sinless and it is because Jesus was sinless that we have hope of an eternity in heaven. If Jesus were not sinless, there would be no sacrifice for sin.
In the scheme of things the pope is just another sinner just like you and me.
It is on your own terms. That is what SS means. You are your own Pope. You interpret the Bible on your own terms. To fit your beliefs, just like your any other protestant does.

You accept Jesus on your own terms, the way you come up with the meaning of scripture.

With a book that Jesus never even mentioned. Your own terms.'Jesus, you know I love you and I know you lead only me to to the truth. Everybody is wrong.

You and me Jesus , right. You can be my savior but its got to be easy.I not going to accept what the Bible says about your flesh and blood or even that crap about leaving Peter in charge.

We all really know you left a book in charge where anybody can believe what they want and all can go to heaven. It doesn't matter. Unity in Diversity.

If you want me, then you have to accept what I believe and I know you will, because I read that book, the Catholics created. They created but they don't follow it. I know you meant Bible when you said I will build my church upon you.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#60 Jul 13, 2014
"It is on your own terms. That is what SS means."

No Mike this is what it means:
Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true.“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”(2 Timothy 3:16).

Are some fellowships better than others? Yes. I know catholics who pass by another catholic church to go to one they like better. Nothing wrong with that.

It's time you respect the authority of the scripture! No popes or Mary worship in the scripture.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#61 Jul 13, 2014
On the rare occasions that you read the bible, you are reading in such a way as to twist it into saying what the book of Roman catholic tradition teaches, as it is your dominant means of faith and practice. You could be very happy if the scripture was destroyed, you do not need it.

If you were forced to choose between the bible and the ccc, which would you choose???

Why, because you have been taught that the ccc is above sacred scripture. Only your hierarchy can tell you what scripture means you are too ignorant to read it for yourself. There is that word ignorant-applied properly.
Mike_Peterson

Pearl, MS

#62 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
"It is on your own terms. That is what SS means."

No Mike this is what it means:
Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true.“All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”(2 Timothy 3:16).

Are some fellowships better than others? Yes. I know catholics who pass by another catholic church to go to one they like better. Nothing wrong with that.

It's time you respect the authority of the scripture! No popes or Mary worship in the scripture.
Like everything it means whatever you want. No matter what that is SS was not biblical and not taught by any Christian before 1500.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#63 Jul 13, 2014
Bobby wrote:
On the rare occasions that you read the bible, you are reading in such a way as to twist it into saying what the book of Roman catholic tradition teaches, as it is your dominant means of faith and practice. You could be very happy if the scripture was destroyed, you do not need it.
If you were forced to choose between the bible and the ccc, which would you choose???
Why, because you have been taught that the ccc is above sacred scripture. Only your hierarchy can tell you what scripture means you are too ignorant to read it for yourself. There is that word ignorant-applied properly.
The Church can exist without the Bible. It did for 350 years. You only have a Bible because the Church decided it needed it because of what was going on in the world at the time.

Bobby, if you lived before 1500 AD do you think you would be a Catholic? If not would you be a Muslim or pagan/
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#64 Jul 13, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Like everything it means whatever you want. No matter what that is SS was not biblical and not taught by any Christian before 1500.
You have said in the past that you believe every scripture in the bible, but apparently not.

I already know you deny this:

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Remember you believe in this and that-even when half of it, is not from God.

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