Is Roman Catholicism a FALSE GOSPEL
Jimmy Crack Corn

Fremont, CA

#21 Jul 20, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Whoever hears the Church hears Jesus.
Ssshhhh. Can you hear him.
Of course you can't. You hate his Church.
This is another way of explaining where I believe you are confused Mike. The head(Jesus) has the mouth whose purpose is to speak. The body(church) follows the head and does not speak. When the body(church) does make a noise which Catholics may have confused with speaking it may be coming from not the mouthpiece but a body orifice which is usually accompanied by an unpleasant odor when it makes a noise. That is not to be confused with the body (or church) speaking.
Jimmy Crack Corn

Fremont, CA

#22 Jul 20, 2014
Only Jesus speaks. The church listens. We hear his voice.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#23 Jul 20, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Whoever hears the Church hears Jesus.
Ssshhhh. Can you hear him.
Of course you can't. You hate his Church.
Can you hear him? Of course you can't, you hate his living word.

Spirit of God

Rom. 8:9, "However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."
Spirit of Christ

Matt. 10:20, "For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."

John 14:17, "that is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him, but you know Him because He abides with you, and will be in you."

Acts 8:39, "And when they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord snatched Philip away; and the eunuch saw him no more, but went on his way rejoicing."

You can see that the Spirit works in his people.

Mike do you believe this is or rather can be for you???

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#24 Jul 20, 2014
In Luke 10:16, That verse is a verse of authority and it is a verse of infallibility as well. It is a verse also of obedience for those who were sent. Now there are well over 40,000 non-Catholic sects, each with at least one preacher and all of them are preaching something different from one another. So, given the fact that there can be only one truth and with obedience to only one authority, which one of those tens of thousands is the model of obedience and has the authority and infallibility given to him or her by Jesus Christ?

Which one of the tens of thousands of them could lay claim to Luke 10:16?
"...and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me." What else could this part of Luke 10:16 mean other than to be applied to those who reject the teaching of His "Apostolos" and their successors through the one Church which He founded?

Since: Sep 13

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#25 Jul 20, 2014
Jesus said, "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."
Jimmy Crack Corn

Manassas, VA

#26 Jul 20, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Which one of the tens of thousands of them could lay claim to Luke 10:16?
"...and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me." What else could this part of Luke 10:16 mean other than to be applied to those who reject the teaching of His "Apostolos" and their successors through the one Church which He founded?
In all fairness Mike don't these churches have equally the same right to claim they ae the church even though they believe differently than the Catholic church and separated from them over those beliefs? Didn't the Catholic church do exactly that in 1054 AD when they split from the teaching of the church for first 1054 years of it's existence? What is the difference regardless of who is right or wrong when the Catholics changed things and split from the rest of the church. The non Catholics remained unchanged in their beliefs, so tell me who left the church? How can you look in the mirror and put down these Protestant churches for doing the same thing you Catholics done?

Since: Sep 13

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#28 Jul 23, 2014
Wanda wrote:
Looks like Mike has a hang up about God and the Bible. He won't have doubt when the flames of hells fire are jumping up and nipping at his weiner dog.
I am a Proud Papist. No hang ups at all. The Church owns the Bible.

Hey Wanda.

Does God want everybody in the world to believe like you? Do you have the fullness of the Truth?

If you don't why in the world would you want to stay that way? If you do, who taught you?

Jesus gave all authority to the Church and none to a book. The Church decided what was the written word of God that was profitable for teaching.

Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#29 Jul 23, 2014
The trial of Galileo Galilei is one of the most infamous and embarrassing moments in Catholic history. It still hasn’t gone away. Galileo seems to have been always at odds with the Catholic Church’s hegemony on all education, even though he was good friends with Pope Urban VIII, and dedicated some of his works to him. But he discovered, via his own pet design for the refracting telescope, that Jupiter has moons, and Jupiter’s moons orbit Jupiter, NOT Earth. Know what that means? Orbits are based on gravity, not mankind’s arrogance. This idea is called heliocentrism, which is, Mr. Sun is at the center of the solar system, and Earth, like everything else nearby, orbits Mr. Sun.

Galileo was of the opinion that Nicholas Copernicus was right. The Earth is not the center. The Church didn’t want to hear that. Galileo went to Rome to persuade the Church not to ban Copernicus’s works, and instead of convincing them, the Church officials turned on Galileo and demanded that he desist with his ideas of Heliocentrism. He refused, but did back off for a few years. Urban VIII tried what he dared to help him, but the facts themselves were deemed vehemently heretical, and Galileo was finally brought before an Inquisition (more on those later), and forced under threat of excommunication and torture to “abjure, curse, and detest” heliocentrism.

The legend goes that, seated in a chair in a bare room before the table of Inquisitors, Galileo sighed, put his hands behind his back, crossed his fingers and said something to the effect of,“Fine. The Earth does not move around the Sun.” Then, under his breath, he muttered,“E pur si muove,” which is,“And yet it moves.” How much of this is true cannot be ascertained for certain, but at one point he did let his Italian temper get the better of him (after several years of aggravation), when he stood and bellowed,“The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven! It does NOT tell you how the heavens go!”

The Catholic Church did not lift its ban on heliocentrical thought until 1758. It was not until 1992, 350 years after his death, that a pope, John Paul II, formally apologized for the Church placing Galileo under house arrest for the last 9 years of his life, and denouncing his discoveries which, ironically, were also incorrect as Galileo taught that the Sun was the center of the universe – not just our solar system. John Paul II’s successor, Benedict XVI, is on record as stating that the Catholic Church’s “verdict against Galileo was rational and just and the revision of this verdict can be justified only on the grounds of what is politically opportune.” Politically, mind you; not factually.
Jimmy Crack Corn

Fremont, CA

#30 Jul 25, 2014
The more I learn of the Catholic church the more I doubt them even being Christian. They certainly have no right to speak of Protestant error. Did you hear the joke about Joe Biden when he refused to kiss the Popes ring? He simply turned,dropped his pants, bent over, and said "You First".
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#31 Jul 26, 2014
Burl Ives - Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn) Live 1964



Love it... brings back a lot of old memories...
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#32 Jul 26, 2014
My grandpa played the banjo- he played and sang most all of those old songs. As a child we lived with him on the old farm until my parents finally moved to their own place. The story is that he was born in a covered wagon during their attempt to get free land in the Oklahoma land rush.
Mike_Peterson

Jackson, MS

#33 Jul 26, 2014
Bobby wrote:
The trial of Galileo Galilei is one of the most infamous and embarrassing moments in Catholic history. It still hasn’t gone away. Galileo seems to have been always at odds with the Catholic Church’s hegemony on all education, even though he was good friends with Pope Urban VIII, and dedicated some of his works to him. But he discovered, via his own pet design for the refracting telescope, that Jupiter has moons, and Jupiter’s moons orbit Jupiter, NOT Earth. Know what that means? Orbits are based on gravity, not mankind’s arrogance. This idea is called heliocentrism, which is, Mr. Sun is at the center of the solar system, and Earth, like everything else nearby, orbits Mr. Sun.

Galileo was of the opinion that Nicholas Copernicus was right. The Earth is not the center. The Church didn’t want to hear that. Galileo went to Rome to persuade the Church not to ban Copernicus’s works, and instead of convincing them, the Church officials turned on Galileo and demanded that he desist with his ideas of Heliocentrism. He refused, but did back off for a few years. Urban VIII tried what he dared to help him, but the facts themselves were deemed vehemently heretical, and Galileo was finally brought before an Inquisition (more on those later), and forced under threat of excommunication and torture to “abjure, curse, and detest” heliocentrism.

The legend goes that, seated in a chair in a bare room before the table of Inquisitors, Galileo sighed, put his hands behind his back, crossed his fingers and said something to the effect of,“Fine. The Earth does not move around the Sun.” Then, under his breath, he muttered,“E pur si muove,” which is,“And yet it moves.” How much of this is true cannot be ascertained for certain, but at one point he did let his Italian temper get the better of him (after several years of aggravation), when he stood and bellowed,“The Bible tells you how to go to Heaven! It does NOT tell you how the heavens go!”

The Catholic Church did not lift its ban on heliocentrical thought until 1758. It was not until 1992, 350 years after his death, that a pope, John Paul II, formally apologized for the Church placing Galileo under house arrest for the last 9 years of his life, and denouncing his discoveries which, ironically, were also incorrect as Galileo taught that the Sun was the center of the universe – not just our solar system. John Paul II’s successor, Benedict XVI, is on record as stating that the Catholic Church’s “verdict against Galileo was rational and just and the revision of this verdict can be justified only on the grounds of what is politically opportune.” Politically, mind you; not factually.
Do you believe Galileo's theory?
Jimmy Crack Corn

Burbank, CA

#34 Jul 27, 2014
Bobby wrote:
Burl Ives - Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn) Live 1964
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Rr4jeaaVGCAXX
Love it... brings back a lot of old memories...
Burl Ives had never entered my mind in years until I watched that song. He was one of my favorites especially around the holidays.
Jimmy Crack Corn

Burbank, CA

#35 Jul 27, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you believe Galileo's theory?
Whether you believe it or not there surely must have been some reason for the church issuing an apology. Could it have been they were in more error than Galileo? in an infallible way of course.
Mike_Peterson

Jackson, MS

#36 Jul 27, 2014
Jimmy Crack Corn wrote:
<quoted text>Whether you believe it or not there surely must have been some reason for the church issuing an apology. Could it have been they were in more error than Galileo? in an infallible way of course.
Do you believe Galileo's theory ? Not a hard question
William

Birmingham, AL

#37 Jul 27, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
Do you believe Galileo's theory? Not a hard question.
Galileo believed Galileo's theory.

And look what it got him from the Catholic church.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#38 Jul 27, 2014
William wrote:
<quoted text>
Galileo believed Galileo's theory.
And look what it got him from the Catholic church.
What did it get him?

Do you believe Galileo's theory?
William

Birmingham, AL

#39 Jul 27, 2014
Mike_Peterson wrote:
What did it get him?

Do you believe Galileo's theory?
Everyone except Catholics believe Galileo's theory. Even you don't believe it, to this very day.

You probably are in the same crowd that believes that we never went to the moon.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#40 Jul 27, 2014
Only the Roman Catholic Church has authority to interpret Scripture

CCC 100, "The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him."

Everyone else is a peon-just paying his dues.

Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store.
Mike_Peterson

Byram, MS

#41 Jul 27, 2014
William wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone except Catholics believe Galileo's theory. Even you don't believe it, to this very day.

You probably are in the same crowd that believes that we never went to the moon.
Galileo believed the universe revolved around the sun instead of the earth.

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