Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#61 Nov 3, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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An ignorant statement.
Some of the Great Catholic Philosophers of recent years.....
I didn't say philosophy makes you an Atheist - obviously, there are many philosophers who are not.

I say: philosophy promotes and encourages Atheism - it would have any student consider that Atheism is a potential truth and sometimes, students agree with that philosophy. Deep, critical thinking combined with hardcore logic leads to rejecting ideas that one considers to be illogical - like: religious ideas that people have previously accepted as truth only because they have been taught to do so. The simple question, "Why?", can send a student down a philosophical path that is as individual as, well, individuals.

I have studied the history of philosophy only slightly - after being presented with origins and basic difficult questions like: Why do we exist? What is our purpose? How do you know what is true and what is not?- I have been more interested in practicing critical thinking than studying other people's philosophies.

Here is an analogy: suppose "What is the meaning of life?" is a math problem. Some people would simply look at how another person has applied math skills and accept that the answer is correct. I, as a Jr. Philosopher, would want to solve the problem myself, applying my own math skills and achieving a solution that I can compare with other solutions that other people have calculated. Even then, each of the solutions presented, correct or not, are available for consideration and that is the purpose of philosophy: to consider what could be true.

I'm sure that you've noticed that I am LIKE a
Christian in many ways - I look like one, I act like one, I'm polite, I'm charitable, I show empathy, I observe Christian holidays, I support Christian activities, I study Christian ideas - but you also know that I am NOT a Christian by my PHILOSOPHIES. The only difference between you and me are our thoughts - I only differ with Christian ideas when they are illogical - logic destroyed my faith.

Philosophy created this Atheist.

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#62 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Everyone worships- just the who, what, when, where, why, and how is different.
How am I worshiping?

I do not pray. I do not participate in religious ceremonies. I do not sacrifice anything in honor of anyone.

I love my children. Do I worship them? I love my family. I love my home. I love my job. I love my life. Do I worship them?

I respect some people - people with good ideas - artists, mostly. Do I worship them?

I like TV and the internet. I like cats. I like books. I like musical instruments. I possess all of those things - do I worship them?

How do you worship?
William

Flint, TX

#63 Nov 3, 2013
How many cats do you have?

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#64 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
How many cats do you have?
143 - I NEED them for my Cat Shrine. They all sleep in the bed with me.

I have several cats and several children who pity stray cats. Our animal control does not handle cats, only dogs, and so, cats and kittens are abandoned around shopping centers and restaurants and left to die. What can I say? I couldn't turn my back on every one of them. I like cats!

William

Flint, TX

#65 Nov 3, 2013
That is awesome.

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#66 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
That is awesome.
Thanks?

Do you co-exist with animals, William? It is taken for granted here, were we all co-exist with wild and farrow animals - most people are allowed to have pets in their homes - small properties often have farm animals in their yards - foxes, deer, bear, coyotes are shot if they start "coming around". Taking in stray cats may seem noble, but really, I enjoy having animals in my house - finding a little cat to live in my house is as easy as driving around a parking lot - and they're FREE! Sure, they are nasty and dirty, maybe sick and certainly sad and hopeless - but nursing the lil thing to health and cleaning it up is part of the challenge and the fun of it. The reality is that I choose one among hundreds and it hurts as much to turn my back on them as it would to turn my back on some "special" cat who crossed my path.

I cannot help everyone
I can only help a few
I cannot do everything
But I can help
And so can you.

Do you think that by saving a few abandoned cats that I have actually helped anyone other than a couple of cats? I know that my children desire to co-exist with animals and I'm sure that's a result of being raised around pets. I'd suggest that raising animals teaches empathy and skills for being responsible for other people.

Here's an idea: Free stray cats for all the inner-city children!

You know why that wouldn't work? Those children ALREADY do not know how to have empathy for others, for a little animal, for someone at their mercy. They would not care for them properly, they would neglect them, they would not protect them, they would abuse them, they would abandon them, they would kill them.

UNLESS, they have developed empathy some other way and then the health of their adopted pet would be evidence of how well and confidently they are able to care for other PEOPLE. If a person can take responsibility for the care and welfare of an animal, they will know how to do so for a person. If a person doesn't take care of their dog, don't let them take care of your kid.
William

Flint, TX

#67 Nov 3, 2013
My cat, Buddy, approves. Buddy is an orange tabby that sleeps 20 hours a day.

Best cat ever.
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#68 Nov 3, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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143 - I NEED them for my Cat Shrine. They all sleep in the bed with me.
I have several cats and several children who pity stray cats. Our animal control does not handle cats, only dogs, and so, cats and kittens are abandoned around shopping centers and restaurants and left to die. What can I say? I couldn't turn my back on every one of them. I like cats!
Good. Fellow cat lover here too. Thanks for caring when so many others wouldn't.
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#69 Nov 3, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
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How am I worshiping?
I do not pray. I do not participate in religious ceremonies. I do not sacrifice anything in honor of anyone.
I love my children. Do I worship them? I love my family. I love my home. I love my job. I love my life. Do I worship them?
I respect some people - people with good ideas - artists, mostly. Do I worship them?
I like TV and the internet. I like cats. I like books. I like musical instruments. I possess all of those things - do I worship them?
How do you worship?
Worship isn't about doing religious acts in a church building, but that's the idea most have. Worship has to do with attitude and reverence. What we care about, what we spend time doing, where all of our care and efforts go. We can worship family, job, tv, internet, books, music, etc.

We can use all of these ideas to get closer to God, serve Him, bring others to Him, etc; or all of them can go and be used for our own personal pleasures and pursuits. So actually, it comes down to this- in one form or another we either worship God or self; and if self these things become our idols.

Example- sports can become idolatry. Ask William about Alabama football, me about Kentucky basketball. I know about West Virginia football too. How many men have all of their conscious time taken up with sports? Idolatry.
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#70 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
My cat, Buddy, approves. Buddy is an orange tabby that sleeps 20 hours a day.
Best cat ever.
Our cat is named Mr. Sally. That is correct. When my wife picked him out, she didn't notice a couple of "things" in the downtown area. She named him Sally.

One day, I was asleep (3rd shift). She barged into the bedroom, woke me up and screamed. "SALLY ISN'T A GIRL!" I said what? How do you know?

"HE WAS LICKING HIS YOU-KNOW-WHAT!"

Lol. It was hilarious.
William

Little Rock, AR

#71 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
Example- sports can become idolatry. Ask William about Alabama football, me about Kentucky basketball. I know about West Virginia football too. How many men have all of their conscious time taken up with sports? Idolatry.
There are plenty of people here who worship Alabama football. Bear Bryant as God, Nick Saban as the messiah, and HD television as a kind of holy spirit. Auburn fans, like me, are of the devil. Tennessee and LSU fans too.

Strange culture, especially since most of Alabama's fans couldn't find Tuscaloosa on a map.
William

Little Rock, AR

#72 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Our cat is named Mr. Sally. That is correct. When my wife picked him out, she didn't notice a couple of "things" in the downtown area. She named him Sally.
One day, I was asleep (3rd shift). She barged into the bedroom, woke me up and screamed. "SALLY ISN'T A GIRL!" I said what? How do you know?
"HE WAS LICKING HIS YOU-KNOW-WHAT!"
Lol. It was hilarious.
Sounds like a typical weekend on Bourbon Street!
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#73 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
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There are plenty of people here who worship Alabama football. Bear Bryant as God, Nick Saban as the messiah, and HD television as a kind of holy spirit. Auburn fans, like me, are of the devil. Tennessee and LSU fans too.
Strange culture, especially since most of Alabama's fans couldn't find Tuscaloosa on a map.
Had to chuckle because I know it's true. Don't forget about "Big Ears" Tommy Tuberville as the spirit of Antichrist.

Here, Adolph Rupp is the Father, Pitino WAS the Son (Calipari now), and Cawood Ledford was the Spirit. Kentucky fans prefer radio to television- watch on tv, listen to radio broadcast. Rupp Arena is the temple. Louisville, Indiana, Duke, UNC are the evil ones here. Idolatry run rampant- actually turned me off against basketball.

Anyway, I think it's funny that although Alabama gets all the attention, Auburn has had two of the best pure athletes I have ever seen- Bo Jackson and Cam Newton. War Eagle!
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#74 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
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Sounds like a typical weekend on Bourbon Street!
Funny- but left me with horrible mental images lol.
William

Little Rock, AR

#75 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Had to chuckle because I know it's true. Don't forget about "Big Ears" Tommy Tuberville as the spirit of Antichrist.
Here, Adolph Rupp is the Father, Pitino WAS the Son (Calipari now), and Cawood Ledford was the Spirit. Kentucky fans prefer radio to television- watch on tv, listen to radio broadcast. Rupp Arena is the temple. Louisville, Indiana, Duke, UNC are the evil ones here. Idolatry run rampant- actually turned me off against basketball.
Anyway, I think it's funny that although Alabama gets all the attention, Auburn has had two of the best pure athletes I have ever seen- Bo Jackson and Cam Newton. War Eagle!
I never liked Tuberville. We used to call him Lonesome Tommy because he always had one foot out the door. I like Malzahn. A lot.

Going to see UK when they come to Auburn this winter. Not that Auburn has a prayer.
William

Talladega, AL

#76 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
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Funny- but left me with horrible mental images lol.
The Church of Christ probably won't be having any tent meetings there.

Good Catholic town though!
Dave P

Dahlonega, GA

#77 Nov 3, 2013
William wrote:
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I never liked Tuberville. We used to call him Lonesome Tommy because he always had one foot out the door. I like Malzahn. A lot.
Going to see UK when they come to Auburn this winter. Not that Auburn has a prayer.
Malzahn is showing a lot of promise and so is his team. For me, Auburn is the only SEC West team that isn't evil. I can root for them- but hate the rest, especially the Mississippi schools and Arkansas.

We need a good basketball program back at Auburn. Makes things interesting. Sorry William but you're right- Auburn has no shot against our boys this season. We're expecting Title #9 this year.

Since: Jul 12

Oceana, WV

#78 Nov 3, 2013
No thank you, I would rather not ask any of you about sports until I actually need to know something about sports - obviously you all have been hording up the answers to any and all sports questions.

But I do not consider what you are doing to be worshiping sports. Look at how happy and excited you are to change the subject to sports - I recognize passion when I see it. You SHOULD do whatever makes you happy and passionate - indulging in what makes you happy is not worshiping - it is doing what comes natural to you.
William

Opelika, AL

#79 Nov 3, 2013
Dave P wrote:
We need a good basketball program back at Auburn. Makes things interesting. Sorry William but you're right- Auburn has no shot against our boys this season. We're expecting Title #9 this year.
The coach is a protege of Calipari. Tony Barbee. This is year number 4 for him on a 5 year contract. He needs to start winning some games.

I don't know who we'd get, otherwise. At this point, I would take Bruce Pearl.
Dave P

Morehead, KY

#80 Nov 3, 2013
Awesome_Steve_Monkey wrote:
No thank you, I would rather not ask any of you about sports until I actually need to know something about sports - obviously you all have been hording up the answers to any and all sports questions.
But I do not consider what you are doing to be worshiping sports. Look at how happy and excited you are to change the subject to sports - I recognize passion when I see it. You SHOULD do whatever makes you happy and passionate - indulging in what makes you happy is not worshiping - it is doing what comes natural to you.
In Alabama and Kentucky, it is beyond passion- I'd call it obsession. A dude in Alabama KILLED TREES because he hated Auburn. I get updates from people about kids who will be playing basketball at Kentucky 3-4 YEARS FROM NOW. People can't sleep at night. It is worship at these places.

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