Jesus is King
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#85 Nov 5, 2013
Mike_Peterson wrote:
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As the Creed infallibly teaches, the Second Coming is associated with the end of the world and the Last Judgment. Therefore, it is NOT associated with any earlier time - such as to establish a "Millennium." The Catholic Church specifically condemns "millenarianism," according to which Jesus will establish a throne in this world and reign here for a thousand years [CCC 676]. She teaches instead that Jesus already reigns in eternity (1 Cor. 15:24-27, Rev. 4 & 5) and that in this world His reign, established as a seed, is found already in the Church [CCC 668-669]. This is the 1000 years, which is the Hebrew way of indicating an indefinite long time - in this case, the time between the first and second comings, the era of the Church, in other words the last days in the broadest sense.The Book of Revelation situates this era between the persecutions of the Roman antichrists of the first century and the final unleashing of evil at the end.
Naturally, non-Catholics cannot accept that the Catholic Church represents Christ in this world, so they are forced to look for a personal earthly reign somewhere out in the future. The notion that Jesus will come, reign, and then depart, so that the devil can trick the world again, is incompatible with the incomprehensible dignity of the Lord and His love for His people. Jesus' Coming will be definitive, triumphant and ever-lasting, NOT temporal and limited.
As for the Rapture, the meaning of 1 Thes 4:15-17 is that at the return of Christ (v.15) and the General Resurrection of the Dead (v.16), those who survive the persecution of the Antichrist will have no advantage in being resurrected over those who died before His Coming [CCC 1001]. All will go to meet Him and be with Him forever (v.17; cf. Rev 20:17-21:27).
The Catechism provides us with a general order of events at the End [CCC 673-677]. Chronologically they are,
1. the full number of the Gentiles come into the Church
2. the "full inclusion of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of the full number of the Gentiles" (#2 will follow quickly on, in the wake of,#1)
3. a final trial of the Church "in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth." The supreme deception is that of the Antichrist.
4. Christ's victory over this final unleashing of evil through a cosmic upheaval of this passing world and the Last Judgment.
Jesus said 'In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments (precepts) of men.' Did Jesus give a 'Creed'? Or is the Creed of Jesus Christ the sum total of His word elevating Torah to new heights with the foundational hope as preached in His opening sermon - "these words", as He clearly said.

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#86 Nov 5, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for keeping this thread fresh.

Your little community is just one of 40,000 heresies out there. I completely understand that you were born in to it and can't help it. The Church understands that.

But when you spread lies or speak from ignorance about the Church, Christ probably doesn't appreciate that.

What you preach about the Bible is false and means something only you. You have no authority.. Since you believe in SS., everybody who reads the Bible is as right as you.

I would consider other employment. You are making a living by by risking people's souls.
Thanks again for keeping this fresh. Pope-ers get real defensive when they are challenged.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#87 Nov 5, 2013
Who sowed the seed of the enemy in His field?? Who was Jesus speaking about?(Mt. parable of the wheat and tares)

I think it was the CC - that's who put up Paul's writings as Scripture -

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#88 Nov 5, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>And we know the Church of Christ denomination is a Campbell/Sommer concoction which owes its order of service and worship space interiors to the Baptist Church.
Try again

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#89 Nov 5, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>Mark, you really should back off some. You remind me of someone who had a love relationship go sour and then picked up the first bad girl on the rebound.

Having been a life long member of the CoC, Sunday before last I walked out and told them not to expect me back, as I come to Church to worship God and learn about Jesus - not Paul.

So last Sunday we went to a First Christian Church/ Disciples of Christ. Before communion they gave a short quote from Alexander Campbell about our need to have the same faith as those original Christians, followed by a Scripture reading, then communion (open).

Never in the CoC service have I heard a quote from Alexander Campbell - but the other Church did. So if you are an equal opportunity criticizer, why not pick on them too - or more? Yet they use instruments in worship - is that your real issue with CoC?

What does the CC have in actuality that the CoC doesn't? You don't make it a focus about Paul...what's your real beef? Honestly? Do you just like to pick on her because of sour grapes?

Just wonderin'
Bitterness is very evident in his posts.

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#90 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Try again
Why is the Campbell/Sommer origin of the Church of Christ denomination kept hidden away from the folks in the pews? Why is the Church of Christ denomination's direct connection to the Baptist Church kept hidden away from the folks in the pews? Am I to understand you know more about the Catholic Church than you do about your own little denomination?

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#91 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Bitterness is very evident in his posts.
Bitterness? Hardly. I'm just amazed and quite amused that you deny and ignore the history of your own little denomination.

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#92 Nov 5, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>Why is the Campbell/Sommer origin of the Church of Christ denomination kept hidden away from the folks in the pews? Why is the Church of Christ denomination's direct connection to the Baptist Church kept hidden away from the folks in the pews? Am I to understand you know more about the Catholic Church than you do about your own little denomination?
This is a lie that comforts you.

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#93 Nov 5, 2013
MarkEden wrote:
<quoted text>Bitterness? Hardly. I'm just amazed and quite amused that you deny and ignore the history of your own little denomination.
Do you believe Campbell was a time traveler?
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#94 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Thanks again for keeping this fresh. Pope-ers get real defensive when they are challenged.
The Bible tells the Church he started to do defend it. Your challenge, if you call it is calling me a Pope-er, which I do not deny. I like Proud Papist or one of my favorite blogs, Shameless Popery better.

With your ignorance of history, you can only challenge other low end prots.

Vicar of Christ.
Mike Peterson

Birmingham, AL

#95 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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It leads to heaven. It's shallow thinking to think geographic location is even a factor.
But, when your head is on earth and needs to be replaced every few years then I guess you're bound to think in earthly terms. So sad.
The Bible says geography is a factor. Matthew 24:14 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

It took you 2000 years to get a few in Texas and Tenn. You have no chance for the rest.

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#96 Nov 5, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible tells the Church he started to do defend it. Your challenge, if you call it is calling me a Pope-er, which I do not deny. I like Proud Papist or one of my favorite blogs, Shameless Popery better.

With your ignorance of history, you can only challenge other low end prots.

Vicar of Christ.
That's lie that comforts you...for now.

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#97 Nov 5, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible says geography is a factor. Matthew 24:14 14 And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

It took you 2000 years to get a few in Texas and Tenn. You have no chance for the rest.
Amen to Matthew 24:14

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#98 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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This is a lie that comforts you.
Deny the truth if you wish...just makes you look really really stupid.

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#99 Nov 5, 2013
Mike Peterson wrote:
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The Bible tells the Church he started to do defend it. Your challenge, if you call it is calling me a Pope-er, which I do not deny. I like Proud Papist or one of my favorite blogs, Shameless Popery better.
With your ignorance of history, you can only challenge other low end prots.
Vicar of Christ.
I don't believe he is now ignorant of the history of the Church of Christ denomination. He made a career choice to be a CofC preacher before he heard of Daniel Sommer and is too embarrassed to admit he was duped.

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#100 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
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Bitterness is very evident in his posts.
Stupidity is very evident in yours.

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#101 Nov 5, 2013
Proverbs 12:1

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#102 Nov 5, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
Proverbs 12:1
Via stulti recta in oculis ejus;
qui autem sapiens est audit consilia.

A fool is ever right to his own thinking; the wise listen to advice.

Proverbs 12:15
Annoying Proxy

Chicago, IL

#103 Nov 5, 2013
Annoying Catholicism 101:

1.The Pope is not infallible.
2.We should not worship Mary.
3.Priests cannot forgive sins.
4. Pedophile priests have administered the Eucharist
in the Catholic church all the while denying
communion to saved, baptized, children.

I could go on and on in Post 101 about Annoying Catholicism 101 but I shall refrain and suggest that you follow the money trail.
Annoying Proxy

Chicago, IL

#104 Nov 5, 2013
Have a nice, big, ole, Catholic evening everyone.

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