Tulsarick

Tulsa, OK

#1348 Aug 27, 2012
These last 2 stories seem like bs. If Glanz in fact met with Chub why didn't he record it? As far as Chub killing the 2 men that seems preposterous. After being shot himself & confirming EC was dead he got another gun, chased 2 men while wounded in the dark & was able to kill them, hide their bodies & their transportation? And Chub never mentioned this because he was afraid ? If in fact Chub confessed to a relative on his deathbed couldn't he have been imagining this due to whatever drugs were in his system?
enigma

Redlands, CA

#1349 Aug 27, 2012
Tulsarick wrote:
These last 2 stories seem like bs. If Glanz in fact met with Chub why didn't he record it? As far as Chub killing the 2 men that seems preposterous. After being shot himself & confirming EC was dead he got another gun, chased 2 men while wounded in the dark & was able to kill them, hide their bodies & their transportation? And Chub never mentioned this because he was afraid ? If in fact Chub confessed to a relative on his deathbed couldn't he have been imagining this due to whatever drugs were in his system?
You are 100% right on!
CharlotteS

Ashburn, VA

#1351 Aug 27, 2012
If some of you care to read the article from the Bartlesville newspaper it is on the net. My niece had no trouble finding it. I do not have a link to it. Here is the correct name for the paper etc. "Bartlesville Examiner-Enterprise", date Aug. 26, 2012. "Who killed E. C. Mullendore ?" by Mike Erwin.

"Afterwards, at least one other ranch hand was involved in disposing of the two bodies.....".

Now as to some of the theories: at least one very large ranch in this area ( which I will not name ) feeds to it's hogs almost all the dead livestock on it's place. The man in Canada who a few years ago fed bodies of people he killed to his hogs was said to have no evidence of human bodies on his place. Hogs will kill newborn calves and eat them I'm told. Hogs are a danger to the tall grass prarie preserve and many had to be killed to keep it from being destroyed a few years ago.

Now as to whatever the killers were driving and where it went putting it in one of the big washed out places on some ranches and covering it would not be a big job with a bulldozer. Of course driving it to some large city and leaving it for the chop-shop trade would have been easy also. The Mullendore ranch hired some ex-convicts and I would think those men would have some connections to people who would help them get rid of that little problem. Those ex-cons could have pretended that they had stolen the car. Lots of people who know things about this case are not talking.
CharlotteS

Ashburn, VA

#1352 Aug 27, 2012
Homer_J wrote:
Do remember the care in building the dam for that lake and the welding of that metal corner post , believe it had a top on it.
VBG. Yep, more than one plain old posthole in our area has something besides dirt in the bottom of it. Like deer bones etc. before we had an open hunting season on them. One lady here in the Osage told me of a spot that she discovered on their farm after they bought it. The "spot" was very much like an old grave that had began to sink. There was no stone to mark it.
smoking gun

United States

#1354 Aug 29, 2012
Noone is telling the true story of what happened that night. There is a witness willing to tell all. Let's get this mystery solved!!!
Texas

Dalhart, TX

#1356 Aug 29, 2012
What is stopping that person from speaking up. As your last line said, Let's get this mystery solved!
enigma

Redlands, CA

#1357 Aug 31, 2012
smoking gun wrote:
Noone is telling the true story of what happened that night. There is a witness willing to tell all. Let's get this mystery solved!!!
E.C. is dead and the only other witness that was there when it all happened is dead! Unless you have a time machine to go back in time and see what really happened then it's over.
CharlotteS

Ashburn, VA

#1358 Aug 31, 2012
enigma wrote:
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E.C. is dead and the only other witness that was there when it all happened is dead! Unless you have a time machine to go back in time and see what really happened then it's over.
I think that you are correct. Too many theories have been put forth and argued over. The water has been muddied very badly.
smoking gun

Ocean Springs, MS

#1359 Aug 31, 2012
CharlotteS wrote:
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I think that you are correct. Too many theories have been put forth and argued over. The water has been muddied very badly.
Have posted twice on this thread contact numbers to sheriff dept. and DA. Both times these posts have been deleted. There is a witness who has stepped forward and spoken to both of the above. He was there the night the murder happened and has kept quiet because of who was involved. He has stepped forward now and wants to set the record straight. Unfortunately the sheriff's dept and the Osage Co. DA are unwilling to listen. There is alot of corruption in both those offices. There always has been. Could it be someone is afraid of the truth coming out?
Family member

Euless, TX

#1361 Sep 1, 2012
smoking gun wrote:
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Have posted twice on this thread contact numbers to sheriff dept. and DA. Both times these posts have been deleted. There is a witness who has stepped forward and spoken to both of the above. He was there the night the murder happened and has kept quiet because of who was involved. He has stepped forward now and wants to set the record straight. Unfortunately the sheriff's dept and the Osage Co. DA are unwilling to listen. There is alot of corruption in both those offices. There always has been. Could it be someone is afraid of the truth coming out?
I'm sure they're both very scared. It would look pretty bad if ol' Wayman and the DA back then had their hands in the money pot and helped cover up evidence and everything. I have a feeling if it got out how many people were paid by the mob to destroy evidence and cover things up, most of your "good ol boys" in Washington Co. and Osage Co. would loose that reputation along with the places they worked for, ie sheriff's dept. and DA. I predict that before this is all said and done, their images will be tarnished forever.
enigma

Redlands, CA

#1362 Sep 2, 2012
Family member wrote:
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I'm sure they're both very scared. It would look pretty bad if ol' Wayman and the DA back then had their hands in the money pot and helped cover up evidence and everything. I have a feeling if it got out how many people were paid by the mob to destroy evidence and cover things up, most of your "good ol boys" in Washington Co. and Osage Co. would loose that reputation along with the places they worked for, ie sheriff's dept. and DA. I predict that before this is all said and done, their images will be tarnished forever.
Yada yada yada Wayman wasn't even there that night and didn't meet Chub until many years later. The proof is in the pudding either put up or go away!
Texas

Dalhart, TX

#1363 Sep 2, 2012
smoking gun wrote:
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Have posted twice on this thread contact numbers to sheriff dept. and DA. Both times these posts have been deleted. There is a witness who has stepped forward and spoken to both of the above. He was there the night the murder happened and has kept quiet because of who was involved. He has stepped forward now and wants to set the record straight. Unfortunately the sheriff's dept and the Osage Co. DA are unwilling to listen. There is alot of corruption in both those offices. There always has been. Could it be someone is afraid of the truth coming out?
Why don't you contact the FBI and the OSBI?

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Family member

Euless, TX

#1364 Sep 3, 2012
enigma wrote:
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Yada yada yada Wayman wasn't even there that night and didn't meet Chub until many years later. The proof is in the pudding either put up or go away!
What difference does it matter of he was there that night? Was he not the sheriff at that time? I don't know what planet you're from, but here on earth, the sheriff is in charge of the sheriff's
Dept. All orders, legal or not, come from the sheriff. So, just because he wasn't out there that night doesn't mean he didn't give orders for messing everything up.
smoking-gun

United States

#1366 Sep 5, 2012
Texas wrote:
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Why don't you contact the FBI and the OSBI?
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Family member is correct in everything they say. A large amount of the law enforcement in both Washington and Osage Counties are underhanded and think nothing of covering up their own mistakes or those of their peers. It's a "I'll scratch your back you scratch mine" kind of mentality there. They are very confident about the way they run things. Why not...they have ran things this way since the beginning. It's very hard to buck the system. None of them want their own sins uncovered, much easier to railroad a witness who can help solve a murder that has sat unsolved for so many years. This is what is happening now to this witness. Local legal help did him no good, after speaking to DA about matter his council quit him. That's how it works there. What he is needing is legal council from out of that area. As it is now the witness stepped forward, they rejected his claims and left him on his own without a pot to piss in. Not only does the Osage have long arms and long memories so does an organization to the northeast. If he could recieve good council pro bono he could step forward and lay this case to rest without fearing for his life. He does know the story of what happened that night.
jOE

Muskogee, OK

#1367 Sep 5, 2012
Why doesn't he contact the state grand jury?
Family member

United States

#1368 Sep 5, 2012
Since Texas wants the truth to come out and justice brought forth, why doesn't this individual hire one of them high dollar Texas lawyers to represent the eye witness?
CharlotteS

Sand Springs, OK

#1370 Sep 6, 2012
Family member wrote:
Since Texas wants the truth to come out and justice brought forth, why doesn't this individual hire one of them high dollar Texas lawyers to represent the eye witness?
Vbg, now that's a "plan".
smoking-gun

United States

#1371 Sep 6, 2012
A good legal council is needed to help this witness come forward. Legal council that can't be influenced by Washington and Osage Countie's under-handed authorities. It is an unfortunate fact that this council would have to practice law somewhere besides Northern Oklahoma. Perhaps even another state. Any and all help from parties wanting to lay this case to rest would be greatly appreciated.
Homer_J

Dallas, TX

#1372 Sep 6, 2012
Read the Lost City of Z author, currently working on Osage Murders,maybe of some help.
CharlotteS

Tulsa, OK

#1373 Sep 6, 2012
smoking-gun wrote:
A good legal council is needed to help this witness come forward. Legal council that can't be influenced by Washington and Osage Countie's under-handed authorities. It is an unfortunate fact that this council would have to practice law somewhere besides Northern Oklahoma. Perhaps even another state. Any and all help from parties wanting to lay this case to rest would be greatly appreciated.
Exactly. A relative said to me this afternoon, "That person who was there should write their own book". Maybe if the witness can't afford a lawyer the lawyer would represent the witness for a percentage of the profits from the book sales.

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