Washington County Jailers & Jail

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Constance

Tulsa, OK

#1 Dec 18, 2010
Apparently, Kentucky considers the position of County Jailer in a very high regard, in matters of training, and ethical conduct. County jailers in Kentucky are elected.

Is there any valid reason why Washington County should not attain to the same high level of professional service in the detention center here in Bartlesville, and elect jailers on the same basis as the State of Kentucky? Especially in view of the growing number of inmates that lead to overcrowding and the need for building the new, enlarged correctional facility?

Kenton County Jailer, Terry Carl and the Command Staff

"The Commonwealth of Kentucky is the only state in the union that elects a County Jailer as a bi-partisan constitutional officer.

That is to say that Kentucky is the only state that the people elect their Jailer in the same fashion that they elect their Sheriff or other officials.

The constitutional duties of a Kentucky Jailer are defined within Chapters 71.00 and 446.00 of the Kentucky Revised Statutes.

All County Jailers are "Sworn State Peace Officers" as are their deputies with all rights and responsibilities connected to the power of arrest and other functions of office."

http://www.kentoncounty.org/county_officials/...
SDGASFD

Bartlesville, OK

#2 Dec 19, 2010
Maybe you should move there.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#3 Dec 20, 2010
SDGASFD wrote:
Maybe you should move there.
Maybe so, it sounds like a well organized, fair and balanced city where one wouldn't have to live in fear.

Anytime a Washington County deputy pulls over a woman on her way to church, not speeding or breaking a law, for having a Jesus surround on her car's license plates, something is wrong with the picture. Bad wrong! Yes, this happened right here in WA County.
What

United States

#4 Dec 20, 2010
Sounds like someone got pulled over. I guess you should know the laws. Your not suppose to have anything obstructing your license plate. Because you personally think it was a good choice to place it there doesn't make it right. I guess because you say its a Jesus symbol your trying to envoke outrage from people.
I guess my question is did you get a ticket or just informed of the law. You failed to mention that in your post.

“Kitty”

Since: Apr 09

kansas city

#5 Dec 20, 2010
there's nothing wrong with a jesus plate. Freedom of speech. If ppl can speak spanish in the usa she can have that. Police pull over ppl they don't know or don't like. It's been that way forever.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#6 Dec 20, 2010
What wrote:
Sounds like someone got pulled over. I guess you should know the laws. Your not suppose to have anything obstructing your license plate. Because you personally think it was a good choice to place it there doesn't make it right. I guess because you say its a Jesus symbol your trying to envoke outrage from people.
I guess my question is did you get a ticket or just informed of the law. You failed to mention that in your post.
I didn't say that it was me that was pulled over, because it wasn't. This happened to a woman I know.

There wasn't anything obstructing her license plate. When she asked the deputy why he'd stopped her, he couldn't give a reasonable answer. Then she asked him, "Well, if I wasn't breaking any laws, why did you pull me over?" It was only then he again fumbled around and said it was because of the Jesus surround on her license tags. So, I suppose it was the deputy who was outraged, or was he following orders?

Why would you say that I'm trying to evoke outrage when I'm only reporting something unfair that happened that was clearly against this woman's rights? There is no law against having a Jesus bumper sticker or any other unobtrusive mention of Jesus as long as it complies with the law....or maybe that's changing in America and in Washington County.
GetAGrip

Bartlesville, OK

#7 Dec 22, 2010
Constance wrote:
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I didn't say that it was me that was pulled over, because it wasn't. This happened to a woman I know.
There wasn't anything obstructing her license plate. When she asked the deputy why he'd stopped her, he couldn't give a reasonable answer. Then she asked him, "Well, if I wasn't breaking any laws, why did you pull me over?" It was only then he again fumbled around and said it was because of the Jesus surround on her license tags. So, I suppose it was the deputy who was outraged, or was he following orders?
Why would you say that I'm trying to evoke outrage when I'm only reporting something unfair that happened that was clearly against this woman's rights? There is no law against having a Jesus bumper sticker or any other unobtrusive mention of Jesus as long as it complies with the law....or maybe that's changing in America and in Washington County.
So u are saying that a washington county deputy pulled your friend over because he hates jesus? Holy crap! That has to be the stupidest thing Ive heard in a long time! Listen, try to keep the ignorance to a minimum here. This did not happen. At least not the way u are claiming it did.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#8 Dec 23, 2010
GetAGrip wrote:
<quoted text> So u are saying that a washington county deputy pulled your friend over because he hates jesus? Holy crap! That has to be the stupidest thing Ive heard in a long time! Listen, try to keep the ignorance to a minimum here. This did not happen. At least not the way u are claiming it did.
Did I say the Washington County Deputy pulled my friend over because he hated Jesus? No, I did not. But when he couldn't give her a reasonable explanation for stopping her, he did tell my friend with his own words the reason he pulled her over was because of the Jesus surround on her license plates. This did happen, and just the way my friend said it did. She is not a liar.
What

United States

#9 Dec 29, 2010
Oh then it must be true because your friend said it happened. I have been on this website for about a week and all I see is flamable comments from you and they all seem to point towards officials in general. Sounds like someone that has a chip on their shoulder.

I think it discredits anything you post on here. I'm sure the "friend" can probably only be seen from you as well.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#10 Dec 30, 2010
What wrote:
Oh then it must be true because your friend said it happened. I have been on this website for about a week and all I see is flamable comments from you and they all seem to point towards officials in general. Sounds like someone that has a chip on their shoulder.
I think it discredits anything you post on here. I'm sure the "friend" can probably only be seen from you as well.
"Officials"? You're talking about public servants, right? The ones who are paid by tax money?

I post a lot of things online unrelated to public servants. If you'd been on here more than a week you'd realize that, but it appears that you've come on here as a newbie with guns blazing looking for someone to hassle.

As for public servants, including cops and politicians, it's as American as apple pie to hold them up to public scrutiny and hold them acccountable to those they are paid to serve. If you don't like that, too bad.

As for my friend, like I said, she's not a liar. This is not a fictional story made up to discredit any branch of law enforcement.
GetAGrip

Bartlesville, OK

#11 Jan 1, 2011
Constance wrote:
<quoted text>
"Officials"? You're talking about public servants, right? The ones who are paid by tax money?
I post a lot of things online unrelated to public servants. If you'd been on here more than a week you'd realize that, but it appears that you've come on here as a newbie with guns blazing looking for someone to hassle.
As for public servants, including cops and politicians, it's as American as apple pie to hold them up to public scrutiny and hold them acccountable to those they are paid to serve. If you don't like that, too bad.
As for my friend, like I said, she's not a liar. This is not a fictional story made up to discredit any branch of law enforcement.
U are the type of person the media leaches to. U see two or three bad stories about cops in the national news, immediately believe everything u see and here. U think those few incidents make all cops bad. U are the one that gets stopped 4 some reason or another, n get an attitude, cuz u think the cop only stopped u to get a hard on, from his power trip. U need to change your attitude. One day one of those officers might just save ur life. He might risk his life for yours. He deals with scum every day, to keep them from hurting YOU in some way. If you dont like the way things are done here in washington county, then move to mexico, where the drug lords rule. Maybe that would suit u better.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#12 Jan 1, 2011
GetAGrip wrote:
<quoted text> U are the type of person the media leaches to. U see two or three bad stories about cops in the national news, immediately believe everything u see and here. U think those few incidents make all cops bad. U are the one that gets stopped 4 some reason or another, n get an attitude, cuz u think the cop only stopped u to get a hard on, from his power trip. U need to change your attitude. One day one of those officers might just save ur life. He might risk his life for yours. He deals with scum every day, to keep them from hurting YOU in some way. If you dont like the way things are done here in washington county, then move to mexico, where the drug lords rule. Maybe that would suit u better.
You are the type of person that needs to get dry behind the ears before you start telling other people what they think and why.

You are the type of person that needs to learn how to text on a forum differently than using teen age cell phone texting so that what you're saying sounds half way intelligent.

You are the type of person that needs to learn not to use that old, "well if you don't like it here and the way we do things around here then you'd better move to Mexico", type argument as a last resort to attempt to validate you'e pathetic reasoning.

By the way, I don't get pulled over, but if I did, for such a biased and abusive excuse as my friend was, I would have a problem with it. She should have reported the assclown to his superiors. What he did was a serious abuse of power whether you know it or not junior.

I don't have a problem whatever with good cops. They know who they are, and they're not the ones who need to be called out.

If you're happy with the ones biased and abusing their authority to the extent they pull over some harmless woman driving home from church because she has a Jesus bumper sticker or surround on her license plates, then please, do the public a huge favor and don't become a cop when you grow up.

“Kitty”

Since: Apr 09

kansas city

#13 Jan 3, 2011
maybe someone stoled a car or something that fits your friends car and didn't want to say anything about it. You never know.
GetAGrip

Choctaw, OK

#14 Jan 4, 2011
Constance wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the type of person that needs to get dry behind the ears before you start telling other people what they think and why.
You are the type of person that needs to learn how to text on a forum differently than using teen age cell phone texting so that what you're saying sounds half way intelligent.
You are the type of person that needs to learn not to use that old, "well if you don't like it here and the way we do things around here then you'd better move to Mexico", type argument as a last resort to attempt to validate you'e pathetic reasoning.
By the way, I don't get pulled over, but if I did, for such a biased and abusive excuse as my friend was, I would have a problem with it. She should have reported the assclown to his superiors. What he did was a serious abuse of power whether you know it or not junior.
I don't have a problem whatever with good cops. They know who they are, and they're not the ones who need to be called out.
If you're happy with the ones biased and abusing their authority to the extent they pull over some harmless woman driving home from church because she has a Jesus bumper sticker or surround on her license plates, then please, do the public a huge favor and don't become a cop when you grow up.
Whoa!, is that the best you got? Calling me young? That is not even what this forum is about. You should learn how to communicate, with the rest of the public. I can go back in this thread and another you have been posting on and see that you contradict yourself numerous times.
The story of the deputy that pulled a woman over because she had a jesus bumper sticker is far fetched. If it happened, then why wasn't it reported? If it happened, exactly the way you claim it did, then your "friend" should have done something about it. If you have nothing but your word, than I find that there is no validity to it. You can't even keep your own opinion straight. One minute I do blame the Sheriff, one minute I don't blame him. Which is it, huh?
By the way, a very large majority of the public uses cellphones. Don't U have the intelligence to know that U means You. Is that to hard for U to figure out. CUZ, if U DNT LIK IT U CAN KISS MY @$$!!!!
Contance

Tulsa, OK

#15 Jan 4, 2011
I think you do protest too much. You must either be a cop, or related to one to carry on and then become so enraged.

Sorry, I don't happen to live in the fantasy world that there are no rogue cops,cops on power trips, or cops that may have started good but for whatever reason turned bad.

Nor do I have to swear out an affidavid when commenting on an occurance between a motorist and a Washington County Deputy.

Bartlesville and Dewey has had it's share of this kind of thing in the past, most branches of law enforcement either have in the past, or will in the future. The best thing Law Enforcement can do is to police themselves and the best thing the public can do is hold them accountable.

Case in point:
"Corruption in Tulsa Police Force"
http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/continuing...
GetAGrip

Choctaw, OK

#16 Jan 4, 2011
I havent protested any more than you. You just don't like the fact that not everyone will get sucked up in your bullshit drama. Yes, there are bad cops out there. There are bad people in every walk of life. It is a fact of life. Priests, elected officials, cops, walmart employees, military, pizza delivery, you name it there are turds.

That's quite funny. I'm not enraged about anything, I just called you out, and you can't handle it. You don't have to show proof of what happened, I don't have to believe your bull crap. That is all there is to it.
You need to understand one thing about me, I am not a cop or a cops relative. But I have the utmost respect for someone who puts their life on the line for complete strangers. I certainly don't try to defamate their character with dumb shit every time I get a chance.
Constance

Tulsa, OK

#17 Jan 4, 2011
Good cops aren't the problem.

Neither are Walmart employees, pizza delivery people, or any other average citizen who have nothing to do with this discussion.

The issue,(again), are those who have any kind of authority, or control over others, who may be in a position to abuse that authority. That *does* include law enforcement of *all* branches, as well as military personel, clergy, politicians, teachers, day care personel, nursing home employees, and the list goes on. Because of this, those in such positions need to be held to a higher standard of accountibilty than average citizens.

No one is trying to discredit cops who honor their sworn duty to uphold the law. Those who don't need to be exposed, not made excuses for.

I love Jesus

Germany

#18 Jan 6, 2011
I love Jesus and I'm proud of it!
Brilliant

United States

#19 Jan 6, 2011
Constance wrote:
Good cops aren't the problem.
Neither are Walmart employees, pizza delivery people, or any other average citizen who have nothing to do with this discussion.
The issue,(again), are those who have any kind of authority, or control over others, who may be in a position to abuse that authority. That *does* include law enforcement of *all* branches, as well as military personel, clergy, politicians, teachers, day care personel, nursing home employees, and the list goes on. Because of this, those in such positions need to be held to a higher standard of accountibilty than average citizens.
No one is trying to discredit cops who honor their sworn duty to uphold the law. Those who don't need to be exposed, not made excuses for.
Well said, couldn't agree more!

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#20 Jan 10, 2011
the law is the law,regardless of weather you think it should apply or not,
in the bible it says to obey the laws of the land....while i'm not sure that who ever wrote that particular book (Leviticus) had in mind pacifically the right to frame your licence plate...but I am sure it applies

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