OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 11, 2010

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Tyler, TX

#44438 Jul 4, 2013
An "Independent" is just a wantabee Repug who doesn't have the guts to say krappy things and be an idiot all the time.

Tyler, TX

#44439 Jul 4, 2013
Radical Conservative Christians won't like these quotes and guess what? I don't care if they don't.

Tyler, TX

#44440 Jul 4, 2013
And to those religious conservatives I say: If God did not want the USA to have separation of church and state he would never have allowed this country to have been formed the way it was!
It just means to those religious conservatives that they must work harder to see to it that their religious point of view gets seen and heard, something they are loathe to do, for they would want it to be law, thereby making the government the arbiter of their religious views and the force by which we would all have to comply...don't the Taliban do that somewhere?

Tyler, TX

#44441 Jul 4, 2013
The key word here in all of these is 'enlightenment'. These men were doing their best to ensure that the dark ages didn't follow them to the New World. They wanted gov't of the people, by the people and for the people. Today, it's gov't for the corporations and screw Joe Public until he squeaks, then some more. I want to be mega rich and enlightenment can go hang.

Tyler, TX

#44442 Jul 4, 2013
Oppression and corruption were trademarks of the Republic of Rome, in which the modern GOP have willingly followed to the 'T,' with the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer, ignoring the true meaning of said 'scriptures' they have so boisterously claimed to be theirs to carry as sword and shield, and in doing so, have failed all Americans.

Edmond, OK

#44443 Jul 4, 2013
Dr Jones wrote:
21.“Manufacturers, who listening to the powerful invitations of a better price for their fabrics, or their labor, of greater cheapness of provisions and raw materials, of an exemption from the chief part of the taxes burdens and restraints, which they endure in the old world, of greater personal independence and consequence, under the operation of a more equal government, and of what is far more precious than mere religious toleration–a perfect equality of religious privileges; would probably flock from Europe to the United States to pursue their own trades or professions, if they were once made sensible of the advantages they would enjoy, and were inspired with an assurance of encouragement and employment, will, with difficulty, be induced to transplant themselves, with a view to becoming cultivators of the land.”
~Alexander Hamilton: Report on the Subject of Manufacturers December 5,
22.“In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”
~Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)
23.“That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forebearance, love, and charity towards each other.”
~George Mason, Virginia Bill of Rights, 1776
24.“It is contrary to the principles of reason and justice that any should be compelled to contribute to the maintenance of a church with which their consciences will not permit them to join, and from which they can derive no benefit; for remedy whereof, and that equal liberty as well religious as civil, may be universally extended to all the good people of this commonwealth.”
~George Mason, Virginia Declaration of Rights, 1776
Now what is your point?
There is very little respect of late being shown to this country and what it was founded on. I do not expect the government to follow anyone religion but I damn sure do not want it ran by Satan. I damn sure donot want it run by Muslim's law. But if it takes a person believing in God thru some kind of religion to make the right choices in life then so be it. A person that truly believes in God is not going to rob, steal or do the wrong thing in their choices in life. But a person that does under handed things can not lay true claim to be following God as most of us know him. So what is going to wake the people running this government do the right thing by this country and it's people?
Packing Heat

Tyler, TX

#44444 Jul 4, 2013
I have three more equally important quotes for you:

"Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" - James Madison, Memorial & Remonstrance Against Religious Assessments, 1785.

"Whilst we assert for ourselves a freedom to embrace, to profess and to observe the Religion which we believe to be of divine origin, we cannot deny an equal freedom to those whose minds have not yet yielded to the evidence which has convinced us." -(same as above).

""In a free government the security for civil rights must be the same as that for religious rights." - probably James Madison (possibly Alexander Hamilton), Federalist Paper #51, 1788.

Tyler, TX

#44445 Jul 4, 2013
At one time churches were taxed just like any other organization. It never harmed them a bit. The Southern Baptist are more than just lobbyist - many are now in Congress working to force their religious convictions on all of us. Taxing churches would hopefully suppress those in the business (literally) of religion from becoming wealthy at the expense of their congregations. There are far too many multi-million dollar cathederals and millionaire (or billionaire) Evangelical preachers in this country. Not only should we tax them, they should be forced to read the NT and what it says about the rich.

Tyler, TX

#44446 Jul 4, 2013
A better, and more productive action would be to tax any church which participates or allows others on their property to participate in, any political actions. For example, any attempt by an organized religion to influence legislation (such as the Catholics fighting the ACA) would immediately remove tax exempt status from that entity. that is the way it is supposed to be. Stealing a conservative concept from them, let's just enforce the laws we already have.

Tyler, TX

#44447 Jul 4, 2013
“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”.
~Thomas Jefferson

Tyler, TX

#44448 Jul 4, 2013
I am an ex-Pentecostal and I can tell you that they most definitely want a state religion - Christianity. Not only Christianity, but their form of Christianity. "No one" covers a lot of people. Americans, especially other Christians had better take warning. Your brand of Christianity could well end up on the hate list.

Tyler, TX

#44449 Jul 4, 2013
Christians in Oklahoma have already tried to make Christianity the state religion, and Christian prayers are routinely used here to open city- and county-level public meetings--not to mention public school events. What those Christians want is for government to quit interfering with their attempts to force Christianity into every occasion and down every citizen's throat, and they are very open about what they want.

Tyler, TX

#44450 Jul 4, 2013
"We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love one another"-Jonathan Swift.

"In all ages of the world, priest have been enemies of liberty"-David Hume.

"I drive by the homeless sleepin on a cold dark street.
Like bodies in and open grave.
Underneath the broken old neon sign.
That used to read JESUS SAVES.

A mile away live the rich folk.
And I see how they're living it up.
While the poor they eat from hand to mouth.
The rich is drinkin' from a golden cup.

And it just makes me wonder.
Why so many lose, so few win"- Poison.

Tyler, TX

#44451 Jul 4, 2013
When has it been unusual for a Christian to lie to save the word of their god? We all know that Mary lied when she told Joseph she was having a baby but it was no his. How traditional was that family? And to flee to a manger to avoid the gossip is so Kardashian. That whole story is so hard to swallow from beginning to end.

Tyler, TX

#44452 Jul 4, 2013
The Supreme Court has gutted the Voting Rights Act (VRA). Chief Justice Roberts displayed a chart that showed the success of the VRA and used that success to give an ill-advised reason for gutting it.

One would think that the ‘Red States’ would let the dust settle before they began their re-introduction of modern day Jim Crow. Unfortunately before the ink was dry, Texas started the reinstitution of voter suppression.

Texas was not alone however. North Carolina, Mississippi, Oklahoma, & other states have joined the voter suppression movement.

Does anyone believe the Right Wing Supreme Court Justices regret their vote? It is highly unlikely as they are nothing but pawns of the Plutocracy. They knew that voter suppression is the only way to maintain the status quo and the last vestige of rule by the few.

Tyler, TX

#44453 Jul 4, 2013
As Americans celebrate the 4th of July, most believe they are celebrating freedom. They believe they are celebrating a country that has grown as it delivered equal rights progressively to all. While this has been true for a long time, 30 years of financial erosion of the middle class has effectively derailed those rights. As the middle class struggles to keep their heads above water, they have little time to discern their rights that were chipped away by the Supreme Court and their politicians.

The 4th of July presents a good time to discuss in a non-threatening but patriotic manner the freedoms that have been lost over these years both financially and through the ballot box with friends and strangers alike. As the parades end and the fireworks go off, just maybe a seed will be planted that forces the apathetic to engage.

Tyler, TX

#44454 Jul 4, 2013
Welcome to the United States of Hypocrisy.

Rowlett, TX

#44455 Jul 4, 2013
Packing Heat wrote:
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Topix did delete my posts and does censor my posts and have responded as to why they did you ignorant assclown, in the following response.
Topix doesn't censor you. I have seen your posts.
And if they did they wouldn't respond to you.

You just nuts.
Packing Heat

Vinita, OK

#44456 Jul 4, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
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Topix doesn't censor you. I have seen your posts.
And if they did they wouldn't respond to you.
You just nuts.

Please, STFU and Kill Yourself!

Cushing, OK

#44457 Jul 4, 2013
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