OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39350 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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You have some funny thinking..Tamara..since you love to point out that I've been over there a time or two...Yes you can make the Muslim crazies in the ME riot when you burn the Koran...
All the way from your computer in OKC you know.....lol
You don't know anything except from the know nothings on these board or Fox news...
If you knew anything, you might have known just how far the 'help' was from Benghazi, and that it was a mission that had some 'weird' things going on about Syria...arms and fighters....Which would make it a high target for the fighters backed by Saudi to take out..And I believe I posted a couple of times on here of that fact.
Plus most of this was reported by a blog called 'Emptywheel' before the mission or the ambassador was even attacked or the staff were killed. Cause not much captures your attention that doesn't have to do with Medicare.
What is the difference here? You are interested in healthcare and you getting the best health insurance to take care of your needs and me being interested in what is going on with medicare? I myself see no difference. But I do realize that you think people that has gotten to the age to be on Medicare should not get the same care for something requiring serious medical care. It just amazes me how you think because before I ever got close to being on Medicare I never ever gave one resenting thought towards the care people got while on Medicare. I just hope that when ever you reach that age and medicare is still in play that the younger generation are not as resentful as you. If Obamacare is a big interest to you then why is it so strange that medicare is a big interest to me. Mainly since the government both Democrats and Republicans is jacking medicare around! You better pray, darn you don't believe in that, "HOPE" your illness never becomes to costly in the future. The way things are going you might be told that you are not cost effective and take a pain pill for the pain!
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#39351 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
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we know since the Boston Bombings that the bombers were involved with the AQ the bombs were a specialty of AQ.
The connection must be true because no one else on the planet
can build a bomb but AQ. The bombers couldn't have possibly
learned how elsewhere.

Great logic shown there.
Great minds at work.
Maddy

United States

#39352 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>Many did get into an uproar over The first Iraq deal. What were you doing? My guess would be you were to busy..... Oh I let this one rest tonite!
Hello Tamara, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier to your kind post. I read it with the intent to respond thanking you but then I read the lies justminute posted and I saw red! I just hate liars!

You had posted about the length of time it took for medicare to process and finalize a billing and I read in an article today something you might find interesting. According to the Center for Investigative Reporting review of Internal Veterans affairs documents, veterans with disability benefits wait times are up 2000% under the Obama Administration. Your question about how responsive medicare will be under ObamaCare changes, I would have to side with others who believe it will be worse, much worse. No policies I've seen of any consequence this administration has put into effect has worked the way they said it would work.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39353 May 5, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
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Well since Iraq didn't have WMD....and we went to war for that reason...it seems to me that many in the US can get into an uproar over crazy things too.
In fact, the US has always had their fingers in some funny places for a good long while...especially if they happen to have oil there.
I don't have to stir up trouble in my backyard...really when it concerns any religion trouble always follows...no matter what country or what religion..
One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Stephen

United States

#39354 May 5, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
<quoted text>
The connection must be true because no one else on the planet
can build a bomb but AQ. The bombers couldn't have possibly
learned how elsewhere.
Great logic shown there.
Great minds at work.
Pull your head out of your azz long enough to find out Tamerlan was posting AQ videos on his FB page and was accessing radical islamist websites on his computer constantly seem to be his only interest other than porn. He also went back to an area to visit "family" which is a hot bed of AQ activity.

Great minds do have to work unlike yours which post nonsense and lies.
Zane

United States

#39355 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Yep, I remember Misty saying the same thing and the reason she said is that they didn't have approval to do more as that was the mandate, and the mandate was limited. So Bush Sr. only completed the mandate. Misty said it was a mistake because the lost of life would have been much less than what it ended up being when we went back to Iraq.

Not the first time politicians screwed up a military plan of action.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39356 May 5, 2013
Maddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Tamara, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier to your kind post. I read it with the intent to respond thanking you but then I read the lies justminute posted and I saw red! I just hate liars!
You had posted about the length of time it took for medicare to process and finalize a billing and I read in an article today something you might find interesting. According to the Center for Investigative Reporting review of Internal Veterans affairs documents, veterans with disability benefits wait times are up 2000% under the Obama Administration. Your question about how responsive medicare will be under ObamaCare changes, I would have to side with others who believe it will be worse, much worse. No policies I've seen of any consequence this administration has put into effect has worked the way they said it would work.
I am not looking for things to get better for medicare or anything to do with veterans. For some odd reason after these people go to war to protect this country and are treated so poorly when they come home I have never understood. The only real experience I had with a VA hospital is when my Grandfather was in one for kidney cancer. I was 18 at the time. Ever since then I have never heard any good reports about the VA hospital system. I talked to a Vet the other day. He had one knee replacement and was needing another one. I ask when will he be going in and his answer was since the VA was doing it he was not able to get for 2 years. I was shocked beyond words. But what scares me the most is that maybe how our whole care system may end up in the future.
What is so funny about the paper work on that bill is I had gotten the paper work from my supplement ins. and the bill from the hospital and it has been done and paid for before 2013 ever got started. So to be getting medicare paper work on it yesterday just seemed to rather slow.
Maddy

United States

#39357 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>I am not looking for things to get better for medicare or anything to do with veterans. For some odd reason after these people go to war to protect this country and are treated so poorly when they come home I have never understood. The only real experience I had with a VA hospital is when my Grandfather was in one for kidney cancer. I was 18 at the time. Ever since then I have never heard any good reports about the VA hospital system. I talked to a Vet the other day. He had one knee replacement and was needing another one. I ask when will he be going in and his answer was since the VA was doing it he was not able to get for 2 years. I was shocked beyond words. But what scares me the most is that maybe how our whole care system may end up in the future.
What is so funny about the paper work on that bill is I had gotten the paper work from my supplement ins. and the bill from the hospital and it has been done and paid for before 2013 ever got started. So to be getting medicare paper work on it yesterday just seemed to rather slow.
I'm fairly certain we will all be shocked when this is all said and done. To many doctors, actuaries and now even high ranking democrats are talking about how dysfunctional ObamaCare is. Sad because real people with real problems are going to be hurt badly because of politicians playing with our healthcare. You did know that congress is exempt from ObamaCare didn't you? They make laws and mandates we the American public must live with but exempt themselves and their families!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39358 May 5, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>One more thing, since the US did go into Iraq (Desert Storm) under Bush Sr. I just wish we had finished the job and hopefully we would not had to go back in under Bush Jr.
Bush Sr. knew that we had no business going all the way into Iraq. Look at it now, the Iraqi's hate us, it's almost at civil war. Wow, that spreadin democracy thingee sure doesn't work...

Not to mention that it's making a sure lock on people that doesn't like us...

The region: Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan..oh...but Saudi's are our friends....where all the hijackers are from...

Now Eqypt, Syria...now we are going further into Africa with our drones...

But Republican armchair diplomats and military experts are sure a dime a dozen around here...and haven't been right about a single thing yet...
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39359 May 5, 2013
All of you Republican naysayer's about Obamacare are just saying what Repubs said during Johnson's Medicare and Medicaid advancements...or when FDR brought in Social Security...

Because the Repubs in D.C. knew once something like Obamacare, which is their plan, by the way, get's established like SS, Medicare and Medicaid the American people once it goes online next year will like it...

And they will like it a whole bunch more when it's worked further into a national health insurance program like Medicare for all...

You Repubs had years and years to solve the health insurance problem and all you have done in these years was to ignore a festering problem that was never going away...

If your not part of the solution, then your part of the problem..so either lead the American people or get out of the way. The Republican solution is to do nothing, so we are getting you out of the way...
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#39360 May 5, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
Great minds do have to work unlike yours which post nonsense and lies.
Great minds such as yours are an embarrassment to
even ordinary commoners. Great minds were sure
Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction too.

Tell us more about how bomb making can only be
learned from AQ.
Dano

United States

#39361 May 5, 2013
Which party has had control over congress considerably longer than the other? Surely the party which had control had to the greatest extent responsibility to address America's issues?
Dano

United States

#39362 May 5, 2013
I didn't read any posts which claimed only Al Qaida was capable of making bombs so is that just random misinformation or are you genuinely confused on what has actually been posted?
Dano

United States

#39363 May 6, 2013
Who is sending drones? And which party does the "mission" belong to?... and still the dimwit has the audacity to blame the republicans for everything, next the drones entering Africa and Egypt as she claims will be Brush II's fault.
Dano

United States

#39364 May 6, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
Pull your head out of your azz long enough to find out Tamerlan was posting AQ videos on his FB page and was accessing radical islamist websites on his computer constantly seem to be his only interest other than porn. He also went back to an area to visit "family" which is a hot bed of AQ activity.
Great minds do have to work unlike yours which post nonsense and lies.
Evidence everywhere and still the libs want to blame someone else since they couldn't get the white supremacist Christian lie to stick!
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39365 May 6, 2013
Deaths at American Embassies sure bring out the wingnuts, but they were missing in action during GW Bush administration:

US Embassy and Consulate Attacks under George W. Bush

US Consulate at Lokata, 5 killed
US Consulate at Karachi, 12 killed
US embassy at Tahkent, 2 killed
US compound at Sandi Arabia, 9 killed
US Consulate in Karachi, 2 killed
US Embassy at Syria, 4 killed
US Embassy at Yeman, 2 killed
US Embassy at Istanbul, 9 killed
US Embassy at Yeman, 16 killed

Total Deaths: 60
Outraged Republicans: 0
Justaminute

Oklahoma City, OK

#39366 May 6, 2013
Oh yeah wasn't a Rice girl involved with the State Department then too...yeah Condaleza Rice...so if the Secretary of State and the Prez are responsible, then not only did they ignore the warnings that Ben Ladin determined to attack within the US but they sure ignored security at US Embassies as well...

No wonder Repubs didn't think twice about cutting funding for State Dept security in the ME, it's not like all the attacks during their time in office occurred in the ME...wait a sec...it did....

Republican response: It was Clinton's fault...or Jimmy Carter's.....

Republicans, the party of personal responsibility, as long as they can blame it on a Dem...themselves..not so much.
Gotcha

Dawsonville, GA

#39367 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Deaths at American Embassies sure bring out the wingnuts, but they were missing in action during GW Bush administration:
US Embassy and Consulate Attacks under George W. Bush
US Consulate at Lokata, 5 killed
US Consulate at Karachi, 12 killed
US embassy at Tahkent, 2 killed
US compound at Sandi Arabia, 9 killed
US Consulate in Karachi, 2 killed
US Embassy at Syria, 4 killed
US Embassy at Yeman, 2 killed
US Embassy at Istanbul, 9 killed
US Embassy at Yeman, 16 killed
Total Deaths: 60
Outraged Republicans: 0


And how many of those did Bush try to do a cover up on? Saying it was a video that caused.

The number is not the issue, cover up is the game.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#39368 May 6, 2013
Maddy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm fairly certain we will all be shocked when this is all said and done. To many doctors, actuaries and now even high ranking democrats are talking about how dysfunctional ObamaCare is. Sad because real people with real problems are going to be hurt badly because of politicians playing with our healthcare. You did know that congress is exempt from ObamaCare didn't you? They make laws and mandates we the American public must live with but exempt themselves and their families!
Oh yes I knew that. That should tell someone that they in the long run are screwed. If I was young and not on Medicare I would be very worried where thing are going. Then if I added that I or one of my family members (which I do have a couple) had serious illness I really would be scared. What dear little Miss Justi does not understand It is just not people on medicare I am scared for but it is people with families and some are lucky they don't have to deal with serious illnesses and some do. But then this healthcare plan Obamacare is not good enough for the people that decided US people should have but not them is crap!
Dano

United States

#39369 May 6, 2013
Justaminute wrote:
Oh yeah wasn't a Rice girl involved with the State Department then too...yeah Condaleza Rice...so if the Secretary of State and the Prez are responsible, then not only did they ignore the warnings that Ben Ladin determined to attack within the US but they sure ignored security at US Embassies as well...
No wonder Repubs didn't think twice about cutting funding for State Dept security in the ME,
The security is handled by pentagon funding not the state department, didn't your progressive liberal talking points inform you?

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