Police Chase Ends In Fatal Traffic Ac...

Police Chase Ends In Fatal Traffic Accident

There are 69 comments on the News on 6 Tulsa story from Apr 16, 2008, titled Police Chase Ends In Fatal Traffic Accident. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

A Bartlesville man is dead after crashing his car while trying to run from an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper.

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Ted G

Tulsa, OK

#1 Apr 16, 2008
Do stupid things and get stupid results. I am glad that the Trooper and no one else was hurt.
Krystal

Edmond, OK

#3 Apr 16, 2008
It may not have been the smartest idea to try to run. But why do police continue to chase somebody for running a stop sign??? Instead of that truck, it could have been a car full people. The officer put a lot of lives in danger as well by continuing to chase a stop sign runner. What about a road block? Spike strips?
Brandi

Edmond, OK

#4 Apr 16, 2008
Krystal wrote:
It may not have been the smartest idea to try to run. But why do police continue to chase somebody for running a stop sign??? Instead of that truck, it could have been a car full people. The officer put a lot of lives in danger as well by continuing to chase a stop sign runner. What about a road block? Spike strips?
I agree that there needs to be some better procedures put in place when it somes to police chases, normal people wouldn't run just for running a stop sign. Some do have stupid minor reasons, like a suspended license, but usually it's something more serious like drugs or guns. That's why cops will chase.
frank

United States

#5 Apr 16, 2008
It doesnt matter if it's a stop sign, when you commit "contempt of cop" be prepared to pay with blood.
larry e cunningham jr

Bartlesville, OK

#6 Apr 17, 2008
In the accident involving Alan Walker, there are alot of discepencies. First of all, in the beginning of the chase the highway patrol said that he ran a stop sign and that is why they began following him, what stop sign? On highway 75 there is no stop signs only stop lights. Then the highway patrol also said that they did not hit him, have you seen the car, if they didn't hit him then what in the word tore up the enitre driver side of the car, and made both airbags deploy, and why was the trunk sitting in the backseat? People that was on the scene stated that while they perfomed CPR that the officer on the scene just stood back and watched. Is that the code now, I thought it was to protect and serve, obviously not when the pursuing officer had previous encounters with Alan, and stated that he did not know who was in the car. There is too many witnesses that state that the officers, yes officers, struck the car several times before Alan lost control and struck the parked truck. What is the true story? We all have seen time and time again where law enforcement will cover for each other and think that they are above the law. This officer did not do his civic duty, not only do I feel he killed my brother but he also endangered the lives of everyone else on the road at that time, and for what? Also, family was listening to the scanner, why wasn't his tag number ran across, and during the pursuit why wasn't there backup called? I know one thing for sure that I would never want the OHP or any other police in the state of Oklahoma helping me, seems like they do more harm than good. What good is it to take an oath promising to protect and serve and do no harm if you don't follow it? my brother was a very sweet guy
larry e cunningham jr

Bartlesville, OK

#7 Apr 17, 2008
get te full story please
jake

United States

#8 Apr 17, 2008
the man commited a felony when he would stop. it it takes is to pull over to the side of the road.
if he didn't have something to hide he would of pull over. he endanger others lifes as well. There was a reason he wouldn't pull over and decided to run.it sad that a life was lost, the decision was his not to stop and that is like playing with a loaded gun. yes get the whole truth did he just commit another crime before that. was he fighting with his girlfriend, boyfriend or who ever. We only know part of the story, was it a sucide by police. he may of been a sweet guy but sweet guys and gals do stupid stuff as well.
Common sense

Oktaha, OK

#9 Apr 17, 2008
larry e cunningham jr wrote:
In the accident involving Alan Walker, there are alot of discepencies. First of all, in the beginning of the chase the highway patrol said that he ran a stop sign and that is why they began following him, what stop sign? On highway 75 there is no stop signs only stop lights. Then the highway patrol also said that they did not hit him, have you seen the car, if they didn't hit him then what in the word tore up the enitre driver side of the car, and made both airbags deploy, and why was the trunk sitting in the backseat? People that was on the scene stated that while they perfomed CPR that the officer on the scene just stood back and watched. Is that the code now, I thought it was to protect and serve, obviously not when the pursuing officer had previous encounters with Alan, and stated that he did not know who was in the car. There is too many witnesses that state that the officers, yes officers, struck the car several times before Alan lost control and struck the parked truck. What is the true story? We all have seen time and time again where law enforcement will cover for each other and think that they are above the law. This officer did not do his civic duty, not only do I feel he killed my brother but he also endangered the lives of everyone else on the road at that time, and for what? Also, family was listening to the scanner, why wasn't his tag number ran across, and during the pursuit why wasn't there backup called? I know one thing for sure that I would never want the OHP or any other police in the state of Oklahoma helping me, seems like they do more harm than good. What good is it to take an oath promising to protect and serve and do no harm if you don't follow it? my brother was a very sweet guy
He RAN from the Law!!! you cant protect people from themselves. Officers always let the First responders and medics perform their job when they are present. Striking the car is called a "pit maneuver" and is used to bring a fleeing suspect to a stop before he can jeapordize more innocent lives, as your brother was doing. Your trying to lay blame in the wrong places. I applaud the OHP Troopers who got the Moron off the road. Sorry it took his life, but better him than a Trooper or an Innocent Citizen
Common sense

Oktaha, OK

#10 Apr 17, 2008
Krystal wrote:
It may not have been the smartest idea to try to run. But why do police continue to chase somebody for running a stop sign??? Instead of that truck, it could have been a car full people. The officer put a lot of lives in danger as well by continuing to chase a stop sign runner. What about a road block? Spike strips?
C'mon, Lets use some sense! If you just don't pursue anyone who runs, then everyone will run. Law abiding citizens who run a stopsign will 'stop', if they dont, their not Law-Abiding are they? Nobody has a right to run! If someone had just raped or murdered and then tried to elude, and the chase was called off because he just "ran a stopsign" you would call the Police "incompetent".
Officers dont have the luxury of knowing who their attempting to stop, what their background is, A lot of Felony Arrest come from traffic stops for minor infractions. Nobody likes a cop till you need them...
Common sense

Oktaha, OK

#11 Apr 17, 2008
And also, the 'Officer' didn't put lives in danger, Alan Walker put lives in danger.

“My score? 148...”

Since: Apr 08

Sand Springs

#12 Apr 17, 2008
larry e cunningham jr wrote:
In the accident involving Alan Walker, there are alot of discepencies. First of all, in the beginning of the chase the highway patrol said that he ran a stop sign and that is why they began following him, what stop sign? On highway 75 there is no stop signs only stop lights. Then the highway patrol also said that they did not hit him, have you seen the car, if they didn't hit him then what in the word tore up the enitre driver side of the car, and made both airbags deploy, and why was the trunk sitting in the backseat? People that was on the scene stated that while they perfomed CPR that the officer on the scene just stood back and watched. Is that the code now, I thought it was to protect and serve, obviously not when the pursuing officer had previous encounters with Alan, and stated that he did not know who was in the car. There is too many witnesses that state that the officers, yes officers, struck the car several times before Alan lost control and struck the parked truck. What is the true story? We all have seen time and time again where law enforcement will cover for each other and think that they are above the law. This officer did not do his civic duty, not only do I feel he killed my brother but he also endangered the lives of everyone else on the road at that time, and for what? Also, family was listening to the scanner, why wasn't his tag number ran across, and during the pursuit why wasn't there backup called? I know one thing for sure that I would never want the OHP or any other police in the state of Oklahoma helping me, seems like they do more harm than good. What good is it to take an oath promising to protect and serve and do no harm if you don't follow it? my brother was a very sweet guy
Mmmk... It was your brother, I get that, obviously you are going to stick up for him.

Lets run through this though. He ran from the cops... Big mistake. Ya know, its great how many people are pro pursuits until someone gets hurt, then all they say is its the cops fault.... no you fucking moron, it's the idiot who runs fault. If the police did not pursue... why would anyone stop? Common sense my friend... Hit him? I don't know I haven't seen the car, side impacts usually do not deploy airbags, and it has to be 30+ mph for this to occur (the impact that is). WHich is all pointless because P.I.T. is a way to stop a pursuit, just as a pike strip is or a road block.

The police officer doesnt know all he did was run a stop sign. What if he ran a stop sign because he is trying to make a hasty retreat from the store he just knocked off? or From a Drive By that just occured?

Lets say your brother was victim of random act of violence, he now lays on the ground bleeding from 5 gun shot wounds. The suspect, who committed the crime, flies by a cop.... oops.. so he tries to pull them over, and they do not stop. Do you want the officer to continue chasing them? Or stop and say meh, perhaps another day. You may be listening to a scanner, doesnt mean you get everything. Tags are ran Via MDT's a majority of the time anyway, something you dont hear as often on the radio anymore.

If you do not think that officer called for backup... well thats just ignorance. No Police officer will get involved in a pursuit and not call for backup, actually, they get backup whether they call for it or not.

SyR

“People R Crazy”

Since: Mar 08

Tulsa, Oklahoma

#13 Apr 17, 2008
Ted G wrote:
Do stupid things and get stupid results.
Exactly!
Nunya

Berryville, AR

#14 Apr 17, 2008
Krystal wrote:
It may not have been the smartest idea to try to run. But why do police continue to chase somebody for running a stop sign??? Instead of that truck, it could have been a car full people. The officer put a lot of lives in danger as well by continuing to chase a stop sign runner. What about a road block? Spike strips?
What about he was running because he was a murderer on his way to your mothers house and didn't want to get caught with a gun???
Nunya

Berryville, AR

#15 Apr 17, 2008
Would you rather have let him get away while they try to organize a road block??You don't like the way they handled it, get your own badge and try it for yourself!!

Since: Mar 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#16 Apr 17, 2008
Why do people run? How can they be so stupid as to think they can out drive someone whom with training and the almighty radio. Crossing city, county and or state lines may have worked 70 years ago but not today. At least an innocent bystander wasn't injured!

Since: Mar 08

Tulsa

#17 Apr 17, 2008
I didn't see where they said the stop sign was on the highway..just that he ran a stop sign in front of a trooper and gave chase.

I grew up in Bartlesville, and I know that all the county roads have STOP SIGNS leading onto the highway. I also know that the HIPOS like to sit at those turns onto county roads from time to time. I also know that if there's no traffic, people just blow through those stop signs.

Sorry for the loss of your brother, but he made a choice to run, and this is the end result.
officer_knows_be st

Tulsa, OK

#18 Apr 17, 2008
Here is the problem people don't know the whole story. For you info Krystal the trooper knew the POS, he is a multiple offender and drug dealer. The trooper also knew that Alan Walker had no license. It is also difficult to do a roadblock or spike strips when there alot of turns. Good job trooper, we both know he had it coming.
Krystal wrote:
It may not have been the smartest idea to try to run. But why do police continue to chase somebody for running a stop sign??? Instead of that truck, it could have been a car full people. The officer put a lot of lives in danger as well by continuing to chase a stop sign runner. What about a road block? Spike strips?
larry e cunningham jr

Bartlesville, OK

#19 Apr 18, 2008
Since your the offficer that knows best if he was a P.O.S. what are you to call someone that? What if that was your family and people was talking about them like that what would you say? What would you do?(say it was your mother or brother) everyone makes mistakes? Do you even live here to know exactly what happended? No you don't, so talk what you know. So what I bet the only side of the story that you know is what that supposed officer did. Everyone was in the wrong. The whole justice system is backwards. No one knows the full story and noone probaby ever will. Since you know so much did you come here and see the wreck and the site? Why are you saying that he is a POS? Do you say that about the rapist, the people that murder their whole families, the people that kill you supposed hero officers? No you don't half the time those stories don't make those people out to look bad. Everyone is saying that he is a bad person because off his previous records, did anyone even stop to think what being in jail all the time does to you? It's supposed to rehabilatate that person but it doesn't it makes them worse sometimes. You don't have the full story and neither do we, but it is not our place to judge, it tells you so in the bible. Those that judge let them be judged, now you sit and think about that before you open your mouth and talk what you don't know.
officer_knows_best wrote:
Here is the problem people don't know the whole story. For you info Krystal the trooper knew the POS, he is a multiple offender and drug dealer. The trooper also knew that Alan Walker had no license. It is also difficult to do a roadblock or spike strips when there alot of turns. Good job trooper, we both know he had it coming.
<quoted text>

Since: Mar 08

Oklahoma City, OK

#20 Apr 18, 2008
larry e cunningham jr wrote:
Since your the offficer that knows best if he was a P.O.S. what are you to call someone that? What if that was your family and people was talking about them like that what would you say? What would you do?(say it was your mother or brother) everyone makes mistakes? Do you even live here to know exactly what happended? No you don't, so talk what you know. So what I bet the only side of the story that you know is what that supposed officer did. Everyone was in the wrong. The whole justice system is backwards. No one knows the full story and noone probaby ever will. Since you know so much did you come here and see the wreck and the site? Why are you saying that he is a POS? Do you say that about the rapist, the people that murder their whole families, the people that kill you supposed hero officers? No you don't half the time those stories don't make those people out to look bad. Everyone is saying that he is a bad person because off his previous records, did anyone even stop to think what being in jail all the time does to you? It's supposed to rehabilatate that person but it doesn't it makes them worse sometimes. You don't have the full story and neither do we, but it is not our place to judge, it tells you so in the bible. Those that judge let them be judged, now you sit and think about that before you open your mouth and talk what you don't know.<quoted text>
Prison is to PUNISH those whom have wronged society! It takes away those privileges that they once enjoyed because they where a bad person by breaking the law!

If it is/was true he was a known drug dealer, if it is/was true he was driving with out a license, then yeah he was a P O S! I don't agree with the way the gentleman put it however; it is America and as a citizen he is entitled to form and or express his opinion in which ever manor he so choses especially in an online forum.

As for the bible it also says if we talk back to our parents we should be killed as children. I don't exactly see that going to happen any time soon! It also tells us to follow the law of the land as the law of the land is also God's law. If he was a dope pusher, driving with out a license then yeah he was breaking the law and the law of God. It's amazing how many people only want to pick and choose from the book. If it where my brother whom did that then I'd be one of the first to point out what a POS they are and not be angry at those whom feel the same!

No matter his past ect.. the dumb twit RAN from the law. So he thought that he had magical powers to out run a HiPo and or radio waves? Have a big cup of WAKE THE CRAP UP and realize only stupid people whom have broken the law *and we can assume it was more than just running a bleeding stop sign!* RUN from the police. Didn't your mother ever spank you as a child? Wasn't it worse if you ran from her than stand there and take it like a man?

If a Hi Po or any other officer of the law turns their lights on behind me you can bet your bottom dollar that my happy but is on the brakes, hazards on and pulling over with Insurance and registration! It's a yes sir, no sir moment period, no if ands or buts about it! I'm sure their job sucks and I'm not going to hack them off so the ticket could be higher!

“My score? 148...”

Since: Apr 08

Sand Springs

#21 Apr 18, 2008
larry e cunningham jr wrote:
Since your the offficer that knows best if he was a P.O.S. what are you to call someone that? What if that was your family and people was talking about them like that what would you say? What would you do?(say it was your mother or brother) everyone makes mistakes? Do you even live here to know exactly what happended? No you don't, so talk what you know. So what I bet the only side of the story that you know is what that supposed officer did. Everyone was in the wrong. The whole justice system is backwards. No one knows the full story and noone probaby ever will. Since you know so much did you come here and see the wreck and the site? Why are you saying that he is a POS? Do you say that about the rapist, the people that murder their whole families, the people that kill you supposed hero officers? No you don't half the time those stories don't make those people out to look bad. Everyone is saying that he is a bad person because off his previous records, did anyone even stop to think what being in jail all the time does to you? It's supposed to rehabilatate that person but it doesn't it makes them worse sometimes. You don't have the full story and neither do we, but it is not our place to judge, it tells you so in the bible. Those that judge let them be judged, now you sit and think about that before you open your mouth and talk what you don't know.<quoted text>
I agree with Officer knows best. If you interact with a set group of people. You know things about them, if you know he is DUS, which is probably why he ran, not because he didnt want a failure to stop citation. Pull `em over, if he runs, well he did something wrong.

As for calling them POS? I am not saying this individual was, however, all of those people you mentioned, rapist, murderers, cop killers, I would call them a POS, but thats not enough, they are lower than that.

He has a record, he did jail time, clearly it did not rehabilitate him. This is evident in his actions.

Judgment, it is human nature to judge, all you do is judge... I can understand do not judge people by the color of their skin, race, sexual orientation, gender etc.. But when you talk about someone who has a criminal history, and runs from the cops, then yea, I will be the first to cast a stone, and say he's a "bad guy."

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