In The Arctic Race, The U.S. Lags Behind

Aug 19, 2011 | Posted by: coolncrazy | Full story: www.npr.org

Seattle is the home of the U.S. Coast Guard's entire fleet of polar-class icebreakers. Both of them.

Capt. George Pellissier commands both the Polar Sea and the Polar Star. He has spent much of his career on these ships, which were built in Seattle in the 1970s.

He takes pride in the fact that these "polars," as they're called, are still among the most capable icebreakers out there not counting the Russians' big nuclear-powered icebreakers. But Pellissier admits that if an ice-breaking emergency broke out, America wouldn't have much to offer because, right now, neither polar icebreaker is functional.

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^ http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/TG98M...
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The National Science Foundation (NSF) today announced it has reached an agreement with a Russian company to charter a diesel icebreaker to create a channel through the sea ice of Antarctica's McMurdo Sound that will allow the annual refueling and resupply of two U.S. stations in Antarctica.

Earlier this summer, the Swedish government announced that it would not, as it has done in previous years, be able to allow NSF to use its icebreaker, Oden, to escort the annual resupply and refueling missions.

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The National Science Foundation (NSF) today announced it has reached an agreement with a Russian company to charter a diesel icebreaker to create a channel through the sea ice of Antarctica's McMurdo Sound that will allow the annual refueling and resupply of two U.S. stations in Antarctica.
Earlier this summer, the Swedish government announced that it would not, as it has done in previous years, be able to allow NSF to use its icebreaker, Oden, to escort the annual resupply and refueling missions.
Oh yeah, I forgot there's a south pole :)
Thanks, Russia
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coolncrazy wrote:
The National Science Foundation (NSF) today announced it has reached an agreement with a Russian company to charter a diesel icebreaker to create a channel through the sea ice of Antarctica's McMurdo Sound that will allow the annual refueling and resupply of two U.S. stations in Antarctica.
Earlier this summer, the Swedish government announced that it would not, as it has done in previous years, be able to allow NSF to use its icebreaker, Oden, to escort the annual resupply and refueling missions.
Hello, I've been kidnapped and held hostage for mind-control experiments on a russian mini-sub disguised as a shark plying the waters off Bermuda. I don't have much time, so please convey this message to the President-elect, Michelle Bachmann:

It's a russian ruse! They'll use it as a pretext to plant a flag on Antarctica's shelf and claim it as their own!

Pavlov thinks he got me to salivate on demand. Meanwhile I slipped him some LSD that I carry in my survival kit and he's spilling the beans.

Has anyone called the AAA (American Aluminium-foil Association) yet, like I asked? I desperately need their turban tech notes. I'm having trouble wrapping this new turban foil headwrap so I can go stealth and foil their plot. Please hurry! Not much time left.
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Aug 28, 2011
 
It seems Cassandra is in the same boat as Al Gore. If the earthquake or hurricane don't get you, New Yorkers, the melting polar ice cap will!!! On the bright side, the people in Ohio won't have as far to go and frolic in the waves.
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An afterthought!!! Will more cars be going west or east in the Siberian-Alaskan tunnel?
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MrOwl wrote:
It seems Cassandra is in the same boat as Al Gore. If the earthquake or hurricane don't get you, New Yorkers, the melting polar ice cap will!!! On the bright side, the people in Ohio won't have as far to go and frolic in the waves.
Why weren't you washed out to sea in NC? Interesting that you still have power too. I think the entire thing was a hoax, just like the moon landing. I think a coup is in the works.

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MrOwl wrote:
It seems Cassandra is in the same boat as Al Gore.
I am?

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An afterthought!!! Will more cars be going west or east in the Siberian-Alaskan tunnel?
Good question! I think more will be going west (US to Siberia)
I think Americans would be much more interested in seeing Siberia than Russians would be in seeing Alaska. Who knows why?
More Americans would be interested in traveling to Russia or to Europe via Russia than Europeans who would want to travel to the US via Russia. I suspect it is because flying over the Atlantic is faster.
Chinese/Asians might like it.

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Why weren't you washed out to sea in NC? Interesting that you still have power too. I think the entire thing was a hoax, just like the moon landing. I think a coup is in the works.
LOL Mr Owl is the ringleader!
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Before I can answer questions, I need to know from the questioner/s what it is he/she is questioning. MrOwl is the ringleader! Ringleader of what? Ringleader of the coup Not Born yesterday mentioned? Coup where and against whom? Why wasn't I washed out to sea? What makes you think I live in NC? My ISP? If I did live where my ISP originates, Greensboro is far inland from the coast. North Carolina is a state long in shape. From Nags Head on the coast to Angelico Gap, it is close to 600 miles. The hurricane on the coast Only affected areas 200 miles from the coast, leaving 400 miles unaffected, which Greensboro was in the unaffected part. How would a storm in Murmansk affect Volgograd? This is not even accounting for the fact I might not live at Greensboro or even in the state of North Carolina. I might not even live in the US. Who knows? Only the nose knows. Do you mean the hurricane is a hoax? Oh I get it. Youse guys are playing cat and mouse game with me. Youse cats think I'm a mouse. To my statement, it's seems Cassandra is in the same boat as Al Gore, you asked, I am? YES, YOU AM!!!
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Cassandra, your take on the afterthought is very interesting. What is your reason for advocating more Americans would be interested in traveling to see Russia and Europe than Russians going to see Alaska. The Russians could visit Alaska, Canada, the US and Mexico, the entire NAFTA region. By the time this is possible, it will be like the Lithuanian can travel to any EU country without a passport. The Alaskans, Canadians, Americans and Mexicans will be one big, happy familia like their European mentors. It would also make a nice trip for a Vietnamese family from Saigon to see the country and visit family members in California or North Carolina. Do you think the Hanoi backy hochiminh communists would allow them to visit? like the hanoi backy communists are such humane people. I wonder if they modeled their reeducation camps on the communist or nazi model. Come to think of it, what is the difference between the communist and nazi reeducation camps? Are there socialist reeducation camps or is that a communist/nazi trademark? Oops, I'm off subject. Let's see now, travel between east and west. the east has a lot more to offer for sightseeing and entertainment than the west. Enough of my rambling. I am boring.
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Lots of gold left in them thar Siberian hills. Alaska's panned out. The Kremlin should allow Alaskan prospectors to stake claims and share the wealth.

Will that tunnel accomodate mule trains?
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Cassandra_ wrote:
<quoted text>Good question! I think more will be going west (US to Siberia)
I think Americans would be much more interested in seeing Siberia than Russians would be in seeing Alaska. Who knows why?
More Americans would be interested in traveling to Russia or to Europe via Russia than Europeans who would want to travel to the US via Russia. I suspect it is because flying over the Atlantic is faster.
Chinese/Asians might like it.
Who would want to travel to Europe through Russia? it would take days, on poor roads in some cases. Alaskans would visit Siberia and vise versa, but there won't be too many wanting to drive from New York to London, apart from the amount of time it would take it would cost thousands of dollars in hotel bills.
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Cassandra, your take on the afterthought is very interesting. What is your reason for advocating more Americans would be interested in traveling to see Russia and Europe than Russians going to see Alaska.
I don't know what would be Cassandra's answer for this question, but I think she is absolutelly right - Russians know a lot about what USA looks like - we have a lot of american films everyday on TV - several going on one time on several chanels etc...- but as for americans- they (americans) have no idea what Russia is about, they have no idea how do Russian cities look like (even in your news programm CNN show only one sight - St.Bazil on Red Square in Moscow and the view on Kremlin from the Moskva-river bridge - and thats all !- NOTHING ELSE - you have no idea what do we eat every day, you have no idea how is our neighbourhood food-store looks like and what is inside there, you have no idea how does a Russian city's street looks like, you have never seen a Russian school or kindergarten, nor have you ever seen how do Russians get their social services etc.etc.- you have absolutelly no idea about Russia - all you know is what you are been fed by your propaganda - vodka, matrioshka,KGB, Kremlin, Putin and bears...So, I am sure that much more americans would like to see Russia then Russians would like to see USA as we actually know what is possible to see in USA from your own films and TV programs - I have at least 8 american TV programs on my cable which are part of the kit - not that I ordered those myself...Have you ever seen a Russian movie? Have you ever seen a Russian-made documentary etc.?- You have never seen those because you propaganda will never permit Russian films or Rusian TV programs in USA - so ofcource americans will be more interested to visit Russia, then Russians to visit USA - Russians mainly travel to Europe, I don't know any one Russian who goes to USA as a tourist - only for business. Hope I answered your question.
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<quoted text>I don't know what would be Cassandra's answer for this question, but I think she is absolutelly right - Russians know a lot about what USA looks like - we have a lot of american films everyday on TV - several going on one time on several chanels etc...- but as for americans- they (americans) have no idea what Russia is about, they have no idea how do Russian cities look like (even in your news programm CNN show only one sight - St.Bazil on Red Square in Moscow and the view on Kremlin from the Moskva-river bridge - and thats all !- NOTHING ELSE - you have no idea what do we eat every day, you have no idea how is our neighbourhood food-store looks like and what is inside there, you have no idea how does a Russian city's street looks like, you have never seen a Russian school or kindergarten, nor have you ever seen how do Russians get their social services etc.etc.- you have absolutelly no idea about Russia - all you know is what you are been fed by your propaganda - vodka, matrioshka,KGB, Kremlin, Putin and bears...So, I am sure that much more americans would like to see Russia then Russians would like to see USA as we actually know what is possible to see in USA from your own films and TV programs - I have at least 8 american TV programs on my cable which are part of the kit - not that I ordered those myself...Have you ever seen a Russian movie? Have you ever seen a Russian-made documentary etc.?- You have never seen those because you propaganda will never permit Russian films or Rusian TV programs in USA - so ofcource americans will be more interested to visit Russia, then Russians to visit USA - Russians mainly travel to Europe, I don't know any one Russian who goes to USA as a tourist - only for business. Hope I answered your question.
Few care why go to Russia when you can go to western Europe it's a tourist playground,closer, more to see, less dangerous and friendlier.
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Few care why go to Russia when you can go to western Europe it's a tourist playground,closer, more to see, less dangerous and friendlier.
thats why a lot of Russian tourists in Europe, and none in USA....but if to adress the topic discussed - why to live in such a sh.t hole as Kitchener if there are such places as Vancouver or New York?...or London?...Hope you get it what I mean.
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hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>thats why a lot of Russian tourists in Europe, and none in USA....but if to adress the topic discussed - why to live in such a sh.t hole as Kitchener if there are such places as Vancouver or New York?...or London?...Hope you get it what I mean.
Lol
Actually it's better here you don't need to live in a metropolis to be content maybe in backward Russia.
Toronto and Vancouver traffic is insane and you get half the size of a house for the same money.
Simple better standard of living.
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Actually it's better here you don't need to live in a metropolis to be content maybe in backward Russia.
Toronto and Vancouver traffic is insane and you get half the size of a house for the same money.
Simple better standard of living.
better standard of living in Kitchener? Then you should go to jungle - there you don't need to pay for a house at all and no traffic as well...Ha!
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hmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>better standard of living in Kitchener? Then you should go to jungle - there you don't need to pay for a house at all and no traffic as well...Ha!
Yep better but then you couldn't even afford the boat trip to find out on your meager salaries.
Now back to Putin's Russian state media propaganda channel.

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