Barnsdall Police Chief Suspended

A police chief who blew the whistle on what he says was a dangerous oil spill finds himself in trouble on the job. Full Story
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Informed

Hawkinsville, GA

#1 Jul 15, 2009
Well, it is obvious the "Fab Five" and their lovely leader have been busy here. Here are a few facts - The Chief has been unhappy since Mr. Parker lost the mayoral election and he got a new boss whom he didn't "like". He has been paranoid from the beginning that he was going to lose his job, and probably should be. One of several issues - his and his officer's inappropriate relationships with teenage girls. But, I hear those infamous "texts" may be subject to the Open Records Act, so we will let it go at that for now. He has been setting the Mayor and/or City up for some time for a lawsuit to bring. This is his trump card. We will see how it turns out. I've known Jim Virden for many years and believe he is a man of integrity and honesty. I also believe the many officials who have already investigated the "spill" in that they are experts in their field. Chief Gates has not been fired as previously reported here, but may be placed on administrative leave.
Also, the trash service that has come into question here several times was started under Mr. Parker. Financially, it really never got off the ground.
Mr. Parker apparently has not been able to accept the fact that Barnsdall voters no longer desire his service. He has been defeated in his last two election bids (convincingly) and still forces the issue. It's almost embarrassing. He has suffered at the hands of those he chose to associate with - those most of us see as having questionable character and he is perceived as a puppet. I believe that when he runs (as I'm sure he will) for the Council seat, he will be defeated again. He seemingly cannot accept the will of the people. He has suffered from his ignorance.
I am surprised, and really don't know why, as it is obvious who is posting here...but that one of our City's biggest problems hasn't come up. We have a gentleman in our City who lives in a plural relationship, who grows weed in his back yard for use as part of his "religious beliefs", who took somewhere around 80K for a grant to advance our City, of which absolutely nothing came, and who believes we are a bunch of hillbillies that he feels the need to enlighten. He is also the illustrious leader of the "Fab Five" who should have just admitted they were "Six". They wouldn't know what to do without him and he has torn our City apart - and believes he's absolutely righteous. I believe, as well as many others, that he only remains here to conceal his lifestyle and stir up trouble.
The results of the last mayoral election are simple: the lesser of two evils. That speaks volumes if people pay attention. Some simply do not.
Barnsdall water has been at issue for years. We know that and I do get that letter in the mail every time they test. I live here because I choose to. Make no mistake - Chief Gates has had this information for quite some time. There is a reason he chose to show his hand now. This is nothing but a smoke-screen for much larger, and yet petty, issues.
Imagine That

Broken Arrow, OK

#2 Jul 15, 2009
I knew he was going to get suspended or fired as soon as I saw the story break. People on JD's side of the aisle don't like to see the truth exposed...obviously!
Truth

Pawhuska, OK

#3 Jul 15, 2009
Howe about the EPA, BIA and DEQ finding no evidence of a spill? That sounds like a pretty sophisticated cover up for Cole, who admittedly doesn;t look too bright. But Gates looks, umm.....
Informed

Hawkinsville, GA

#4 Jul 15, 2009
Truth wrote:
Howe about the EPA, BIA and DEQ finding no evidence of a spill? That sounds like a pretty sophisticated cover up for Cole, who admittedly doesn;t look too bright. But Gates looks, umm.....
Uuhhmm,,,,yea, how about all those agencies? looks like those officials are experts and know their job Michael. Again, I refer to you to Jim Virden of Performance. Excellent reputation and has cooperated with all of them.
Informed

Hawkinsville, GA

#5 Jul 15, 2009
Truth wrote:
Howe about the EPA, BIA and DEQ finding no evidence of a spill? That sounds like a pretty sophisticated cover up for Cole, who admittedly doesn;t look too bright. But Gates looks, umm.....
By the way, all of the above comments with the exception of mine, came from the Michael Gaither household.
lol

Skiatook, OK

#6 Jul 15, 2009
Truth wrote:
Howe about the EPA, BIA and DEQ finding no evidence of a spill? That sounds like a pretty sophisticated cover up for Cole, who admittedly doesn;t look too bright. But Gates looks, umm.....
gates may not look bright but you heard cole telling him to delete the pictures..why would he do that? i also respect gates for bringing th spill out because i drink that water and i would like to know what's in it
lol

Skiatook, OK

#7 Jul 15, 2009
Imagine That wrote:
I knew he was going to get suspended or fired as soon as I saw the story break. People on JD's side of the aisle don't like to see the truth exposed...obviously!
i completely agree. why else would he want those pictures deleted!
lol

Skiatook, OK

#8 Jul 15, 2009
Informed wrote:
Well, it is obvious the "Fab Five" and their lovely leader have been busy here. Here are a few facts - The Chief has been unhappy since Mr. Parker lost the mayoral election and he got a new boss whom he didn't "like". He has been paranoid from the beginning that he was going to lose his job, and probably should be. One of several issues - his and his officer's inappropriate relationships with teenage girls. But, I hear those infamous "texts" may be subject to the Open Records Act, so we will let it go at that for now. He has been setting the Mayor and/or City up for some time for a lawsuit to bring. This is his trump card. We will see how it turns out. I've known Jim Virden for many years and believe he is a man of integrity and honesty. I also believe the many officials who have already investigated the "spill" in that they are experts in their field. Chief Gates has not been fired as previously reported here, but may be placed on administrative leave.
Also, the trash service that has come into question here several times was started under Mr. Parker. Financially, it really never got off the ground.
Mr. Parker apparently has not been able to accept the fact that Barnsdall voters no longer desire his service. He has been defeated in his last two election bids (convincingly) and still forces the issue. It's almost embarrassing. He has suffered at the hands of those he chose to associate with - those most of us see as having questionable character and he is perceived as a puppet. I believe that when he runs (as I'm sure he will) for the Council seat, he will be defeated again. He seemingly cannot accept the will of the people. He has suffered from his ignorance.
I am surprised, and really don't know why, as it is obvious who is posting here...but that one of our City's biggest problems hasn't come up. We have a gentleman in our City who lives in a plural relationship, who grows weed in his back yard for use as part of his "religious beliefs", who took somewhere around 80K for a grant to advance our City, of which absolutely nothing came, and who believes we are a bunch of hillbillies that he feels the need to enlighten. He is also the illustrious leader of the "Fab Five" who should have just admitted they were "Six". They wouldn't know what to do without him and he has torn our City apart - and believes he's absolutely righteous. I believe, as well as many others, that he only remains here to conceal his lifestyle and stir up trouble.
The results of the last mayoral election are simple: the lesser of two evils. That speaks volumes if people pay attention. Some simply do not.
Barnsdall water has been at issue for years. We know that and I do get that letter in the mail every time they test. I live here because I choose to. Make no mistake - Chief Gates has had this information for quite some time. There is a reason he chose to show his hand now. This is nothing but a smoke-screen for much larger, and yet petty, issues.
if i was gates i would have been paranoid about losing my job too. he knew cole disliked him simply because he was friends with his opponet in the elction. the mayor needs to do his job and not try to screw with peoples lives because he doesn't like them, those problems shouldnt be brought into the work place. everyone needs too act a little more grown up and stop with the drama. maybe parker should open up a bar and he would have a few more fans too.
and as for "the leader of the fab 5" why bring him into these..i believe enough people are already involved
dinghmm

Tulsa, OK

#9 Jul 15, 2009
disclaimer !! lol I'm not from your town & dont know any of you ...since you all know each other. One yhing that bothered me from the first story is why want the pics deleted and why not make a note of it in the public notices or something? Just to let the people know whats going on so no one freaks out when they see oil on the water. And if he sues he will so win. Whistleblower law to the rescue!
lol

Skiatook, OK

#10 Jul 15, 2009
this town amazes me. none of our problems can be solve because when their brought up it always turns into something else. this whole story started about an oil spill and all peolpe can think about is how they don't like gates or they don't like cole, or them not likng each other for tha matter..get over it, thats not going to solve anything. face the fact that you dont like each other and move on. learn to be and act like professionals so you can all get your job done and do it right. all you guys are doing is making yourselves and our town look pathaetic. im in highschool and act so much more mature than this..none of you set a good example for the future of barnsdall
HDRK

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#11 Jul 16, 2009
The hole town of Barnsdal needs to be looked into by the county and state legal system. When they had a police chief before mr. and I use that term loosley Gates, he did his job and kept things in town pretty smooth. He did not get run over by the mayor or his coharts. When he did his job in a professionial manner, Gates went to the council and mayor and had him fired so that he could have the job. As stated above, the entire police force (again used loosley) are now or have been in recent times (past 2 years) been way to cozy with the under age girls in town. Sad part about it is it is common knowledge in town and no one says or does any thing about it, unless of course it is some one related to the mayor or the council. Maybe they sell blinders at the local store. They must because it appears that most of the towns people wear them!!! I do not live in Barnsdal any longer and for good reason, JUST READ THE NEW , then you wonder why any one would live there.
Blue

Claremore, OK

#12 Jul 16, 2009
If everything is ok, and all cleaned up properly, why suspend him? I am sick of all the dishonesty in government. He did the right thing!! I wish more people would speak up
Interesting

Tulsa, OK

#13 Jul 16, 2009
Gates should not have had to bring the pictures out - it should have been part of a full dislosure because it was something that effected the water supply.

Anyone can go to Lake Waxhoma - the people should go check it out for themselves and see if it was cleaned up properly.

Small town politics suck - but so do big town politics,lol.
OMG

Tulsa, OK

#14 Jul 16, 2009
Informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Uuhhmm,,,,yea, how about all those agencies? looks like those officials are experts and know their job Michael. Again, I refer to you to Jim Virden of Performance. Excellent reputation and has cooperated with all of them.
Uuhhmm,, what about the city employee that knows those agencies were taken to the opposite side of the lake from where the spill was?
new police car

London, KY

#16 Jul 16, 2009
Imagine That wrote:
I knew he was going to get suspended or fired as soon as I saw the story break. People on JD's side of the aisle don't like to see the truth exposed...obviously!
The fab five did this to thereselves. The chief has not showed up for work in a week, also he did not come out to protect a 7 year old boy and father that was theatened to be shot. He says he is her to protect the people. He has failed to do so for a long time. It is about time They did something with the chief.
Ripply

United States

#17 Jul 16, 2009
Nuke Barnsdall from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
new police car

London, KY

#18 Jul 16, 2009
From a source the city has copies of the pictures before hand and the local authorities has seen all of them. even ones sent to them. Lake Waxhoma does not have red dirt. As has been quoted by some of the authorities and if you know Lake Waxhoma some of the pictures are not even Lake Waxhoma.
new police car

London, KY

#19 Jul 16, 2009
Blue wrote:
If everything is ok, and all cleaned up properly, why suspend him? I am sick of all the dishonesty in government. He did the right thing!! I wish more people would speak up
Would you keep him if he had not showed up for a week and has nothing to do with hours. Maybe hee has decided to call up other young girls again on his time off
Here we go again

Tulsa, OK

#20 Jul 16, 2009
new police car wrote:
From a source the city has copies of the pictures before hand and the local authorities has seen all of them. even ones sent to them. Lake Waxhoma does not have red dirt. As has been quoted by some of the authorities and if you know Lake Waxhoma some of the pictures are not even Lake Waxhoma.
Still trying to persuade people to believe this was all made up. This is OSAGE COUNTY there is red clay everywhere.
new police car

London, KY

#21 Jul 16, 2009
OMG wrote:
<quoted text>Uuhhmm,, what about the city employee that knows those agencies were taken to the opposite side of the lake from where the spill was?
The employees and agencies seen the shot beaver and where the rainbow colors were. Sorry Micheal. They were where it was at. You were not there. Take care of your patch and mind your own business

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