Remsen teachers salaries are the high...

Remsen teachers salaries are the highest average in the state!

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Kim

Gloversville, NY

#1 Oct 22, 2012
http://www.wktv.com/news/local/Remsen-teacher...

I don't think they get paid enough for the work they do!
just me

Utica, NY

#2 Oct 23, 2012
Remsen teachers don't do any work. If you believe that they do, look at the products they have been churning out. Less than 0.000001% ready for college or any meaningful work ethic.
Welshy

Cicero, NY

#3 Oct 23, 2012
just me wrote:
Remsen teachers don't do any work. If you believe that they do, look at the products they have been churning out. Less than 0.000001% ready for college or any meaningful work ethic.
Work ethic begins at home, not school. I take it then you also hold a masters degree as well a NY State certification in your chosen profession? Teachers don't approve the salary they are paid. The voters do that when they elect the school board as those are the ones charged with negotiating the contract.
kristy

Herkimer, NY

#4 Oct 23, 2012
that is why Remsen's taxes are so high! But is it worth it... SAT's and college entry level requirements don't match up to the high level of pay to teachers.(my opinion only). Shouldn't we GET what we PAY for???
it can not be done

Utica, NY

#5 Oct 23, 2012
please name at least one student who has attended Yale or Harvard that graduated from Remsen first. with these salaries the teachers have been earning for well OVER 20 years, at least 25% of each graduating class should be producing IVY league school enrollees. not suny, mvcc, hccc, etc..and Remsen ALSO spends more on per students than the most popular/highest ranking schools in ny state. why? also, the majority of the elementary kids tanked the ela's. go look at the report. time for a merger. it's the polite way to say the school is folding under, the state is not impressed, and lighting a fire under their asses to clean up the school. easiest way to bail out before state intervention.
just me

Utica, NY

#6 Oct 23, 2012
Many of the Remsen students live in single parent households and many have no home guidance for ethics of any kind. My chosen profession did not require any state-mandated certifications or a masters degree. Suffice it to say that I had the education required to succeed in my chosen profession. I really can't tell you what I did for a living, but I made way above the median income for New York state. I don't need a masters degree to know that Remsen's teachers are failing to provide the education required for a child to succeed in college. School boards are emasculated by NYS to the point that it is almost impossible to deal with the teachers' union. The local board has little, or no voice in the actual running of the school and very little voice when dealing with the union. I have a very good friend who sat on Rome's school board so I'm not without some knowledge on how the system works.
Richard Williams

United States

#7 Oct 24, 2012
I wonder how the teachers contract for these salaries got signed? Who ratified this agreement? When? Why now is everyone getting fired up? How many here have attended a board meeting? How can you be so critical, yet so cowardly you can't sign your own name? Don't take to the computer to complain. Go to a board meeting and let your feelings be known. Anything like the above is pure BS and totally weak.
just me

Utica, NY

#8 Oct 25, 2012
The only B.S. on here is you mr. williams. Where in blue blazes is cayuta, ny? If you knew anything about regular board meetings, you would almost make halfwit. Residents have no voice at regular meetings unless the board allows it, because regular meetings are for conducting the school's day to day business. Non-board members can only speak at Hearings. Residents can try to get on the agenda at regular meetings but must submit their agenda at the time of their request. Remsen C.S. needs to close, so the students can get an education from a real school with real teachers. Time to stop the bleeding!
Richard Williams

United States

#9 Oct 26, 2012
just me wrote:
The only B.S. on here is you mr. williams. Where in blue blazes is cayuta, ny? If you knew anything about regular board meetings, you would almost make halfwit. Residents have no voice at regular meetings unless the board allows it, because regular meetings are for conducting the school's day to day business. Non-board members can only speak at Hearings. Residents can try to get on the agenda at regular meetings but must submit their agenda at the time of their request. Remsen C.S. needs to close, so the students can get an education from a real school with real teachers. Time to stop the bleeding!
Put your name in the post smart guy. Close the school? Kids on a bus for 2+ hours a day is a good thing? Put your money where your mouth is and step it up. Don't hide like a coward. Cayuta, NY is in Schuyler County idiot.
just me

Utica, NY

#10 Oct 26, 2012
Where in H--- is schuyler county and if that is where you're from, mind your own business? Close the crap-hole and stop paying outrageous salaries to do-nothing leeches. Why do you need to know my name jackass?
remsen native

Boston, MA

#11 Oct 27, 2012
just me wrote:
Where in H--- is schuyler county and if that is where you're from, mind your own business? Close the crap-hole and stop paying outrageous salaries to do-nothing leeches. Why do you need to know my name jackass?
your the jack ass, and if you were from remsen then you would know Richard...
just me

Utica, NY

#12 Oct 27, 2012
Never heard of the puke, so he must be a nobody just like you. The teachers are still overpaid and under worked, the students' education is of such poor quality that they are not college material. Most are destined to work low end jobs for poor pay. Call me what you want, your school system sucks sewer water and should be closed.
Richard Williams

United States

#13 Oct 28, 2012
just me wrote:
Never heard of the puke, so he must be a nobody just like you. The teachers are still overpaid and under worked, the students' education is of such poor quality that they are not college material. Most are destined to work low end jobs for poor pay. Call me what you want, your school system sucks sewer water and should be closed.
I guess my property taxes aren't as important as yours. If you have such a problem with the school then do something about it. So tough on a computer but weak in reality. Either address it in person with the board or keep your mouth shut or better....move far away from Remsen.
Dexter

Utica, NY

#14 Oct 31, 2012
I don't know why my last post wasn't put on this site, but I'll try to write it as close to what it was as possible. First of all, name calling and jabs doesn't do anything. I HAVE been to meetings and was not allowed to talk, just listen. Welshy says work ethics begin at home. Yes, ethics start at home as do morals. Not anything new, but many parents believe the teachers are supposed to teach their children everything. Since we now have a much larger population than one room schoolhouse days, there are even more parents with that belief. Yet, those same parents go after the teachers and school saying "not my child" when they act up....and they act up sooo much worse than even 20 years ago. My kids were excelled before they went to school, but could only go farther than their peers by me teaching them at home as far as education went because they had to stay at the level of the rest of the class. The teachers had them tutor slower ones. I'm all for tutoring to help, but only when the tutor gets equal time to excel and that didn't happen. At the same time, these same teachers get to watch the apathy day after day, year after year. Is it possible, with their hands tied on what they can and can't do, that though they fight the urge, they become apathetic, too? How many times I volunteered coaching, helping with classes and school projects, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, FFA, band, field trips and saw the same parents every time. The majority expect others to do it. Again, when their child behaved badly, it wasn't true and we were "picking on" their child. I'm not saying all the teachers are good nor am I saying they're all bad. Every workplace has good and bad, workers and non-workers, etc. There are several teachers who, when my kids were there, volunteered their own time to do extra curricular activities. There were also teachers who didn't do their job. Although I like the idea of small school systems, sometimes a clique begins and quiet favoritism happens. We only have 40 to 60 kids graduate each year. That's nice, but the opportunity to learn more isn't there. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we're going to have no choice but to consolidate in order to afford anything.
just me

Utica, NY

#15 Oct 31, 2012
R.C.S. needs to be shut down. Lousy education, teachers making $70 to 80 grand a year for what. Give the school to H.P. and Adirondack, then divvy up the (w)hole township amongst the adjacent towns. Remsen has become nothing but a dumping ground for parasites. All you have to do is drive on main street to see all of the losers. Hooray for Remsen, hooray at last, Remsen is a horse's ass! I'm not from Remsen, nor do I live in Remsen, but I know a cesspool when I see one. If Oneida County needed an enema, Remsen is where it would be administered.
Richard Williams

United States

#16 Oct 31, 2012
Dexter wrote:
I don't know why my last post wasn't put on this site, but I'll try to write it as close to what it was as possible. First of all, name calling and jabs doesn't do anything. I HAVE been to meetings and was not allowed to talk, just listen. Welshy says work ethics begin at home. Yes, ethics start at home as do morals. Not anything new, but many parents believe the teachers are supposed to teach their children everything. Since we now have a much larger population than one room schoolhouse days, there are even more parents with that belief. Yet, those same parents go after the teachers and school saying "not my child" when they act up....and they act up sooo much worse than even 20 years ago. My kids were excelled before they went to school, but could only go farther than their peers by me teaching them at home as far as education went because they had to stay at the level of the rest of the class. The teachers had them tutor slower ones. I'm all for tutoring to help, but only when the tutor gets equal time to excel and that didn't happen. At the same time, these same teachers get to watch the apathy day after day, year after year. Is it possible, with their hands tied on what they can and can't do, that though they fight the urge, they become apathetic, too? How many times I volunteered coaching, helping with classes and school projects, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, FFA, band, field trips and saw the same parents every time. The majority expect others to do it. Again, when their child behaved badly, it wasn't true and we were "picking on" their child. I'm not saying all the teachers are good nor am I saying they're all bad. Every workplace has good and bad, workers and non-workers, etc. There are several teachers who, when my kids were there, volunteered their own time to do extra curricular activities. There were also teachers who didn't do their job. Although I like the idea of small school systems, sometimes a clique begins and quiet favoritism happens. We only have 40 to 60 kids graduate each year. That's nice, but the opportunity to learn more isn't there. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we're going to have no choice but to consolidate in order to afford anything.
Well said and some good thought. Consolidation will give the kids nothing more than what is available now. Todays world is about the parents exposing kids to additional opportunities. Sorry but HP and Adk won't advance the kids any further. It's up to the parents and unfortunately most the parents in Remsen, HP and Adk will never realize this. You want your kid to advance? Send them to Choate, Suffield Academy
or another private school at $30K a year. Once again not a single real name. So sad the kids read about cowards.
lick your

Utica, NY

#17 Oct 31, 2012
richard, topix was developed to allow people to post anonymously if one so chooses. don't like it, don't post. and how would one know you are who as you post? no one knows, nor am i sure anyone cares.
Dexter

Utica, NY

#18 Nov 1, 2012
Just Me, knock it off. Drive around HP, B'ville, F'port, ANYwhere and you see the same negative - look at the ones who AREN'T negative. ALL places have negative. Look at the good on Main St.- drive around the TOWN of Remsen. Not so bad. Why do you think HP or Adirondack are so much better? I agree that consolidation is probably the only solution, but it's a solution for all the towns, not just Remsen. As the one room schoolhouse has consolidated through the years, that's where it's headed. Just Me - stop being so grumpy and be more happy. Life's too short to constantly be so spiteful. Look at the beauty around us and not all the gloom. You'll be glad you did because it IS nice out there. Come on, cheer up! Here's a coffee for you. It's on me...and I'm from the RCS district, too!
just me

Utica, NY

#19 Nov 1, 2012
Sorry Dexter, but I'm negative about Remsen right now because a few are trying to ram something down our throats that is totally wrong. I am not at liberty to discuss this further at this time. All I see here is greed, and poorly educated young people. I pay a substantial amount of R.C.S. school taxes and frankly am not getting much of a bang for my buck. We may have a few dedicated teachers here, but I'm not enamored with the majority and many of the people I talk with aren't thrilled either. They are afraid to say much because they have children and/or grandchildren in school. It has been my experience, and theirs, that parent crossed teachers tend to take it out on the children involved. The bottom line is that the only things R.C.S. can be proud of are the Girls sports teams.
Dexter

Utica, NY

#20 Nov 1, 2012
Parent crossed teachers tend to do that in ALL systems, not just Remsen's AND in sports and recreation, BUT not by ALL teachers or volunteers. There are more than a few dedicated teachers and several who spoil the bunch. I remember going to a meeting about the "new" reading program they wanted to talk to us about. We thought we'd have input, but we didn't. When we, the parents, questioned the program including what they could show for results, we received NO answer. They just said that it works and asked for more questions. We stated that our kids already HAD that textbook the year before and didn't understand why they had to do it again. They just did, that was why. We couldn't vote it down or state we didn't want it. It was put into place and that was the end of it. Nope, we didn't like it and felt our kids were held back. Not ALL the teachers wanted it either and did their best to make it more fun and do other things which helped. My kids made it through, but could only go further with my help and some of the teachers. Some teachers I could live without, but you will NEVER get ALL the teachers you want just like you'll never get all the bosses you like. It's a part of growing up and learning to work around it and make it your best time anyway. Just relax and KNOW that you've made some people really think and see what's going on. It'll work out with or without us. And, by the way, we have more to be proud of such as our FFA, Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, the kids that try doing their best in sports, and several who've gone on to higher education. Don't put us down so much. Hang in there and make your point, but try not to make such personal attacks on others because it doesn't help a thing. It's not all up to the teachers, coaches and volunteers; ALL parents need to step up and do their part. We know that won't happen, but maybe more will some day and keep at it. Thank you.

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